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Why are we fighting?
by padmanathan naidu on Sep 13, 2007 05:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is for me is not the real thing, we have diverted our min aim itself. The sethu samudram project which reduces the traffic time and saves lots of fuel for the shipping & the counrty.
Do we need to go with the project, i will say yes, for the economic prosperity of the country.
Lord Rama is a purusotham, we need to live on his sayings. Rather than doing that, we hurt people, prosperity and crime against humanity. But still we worship him.. it is of no-use.
Ramayana teachs us to have courage to take on the evil, we need to take that idea and implement in our lives rather than fighting for it.

Let the sethusamudram project completed like delhi-metro, see how many people get employment and economic prosperity.

But we also need to look on environment concern, if it is not viable due to environmental issue then it shoud be dropped. Because we are responsible for the future of this planet.

Hope my voice will find a way at least few peoples heart.

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RE:Why are we fighting?
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Sep 13, 2007 05:26 PM  Permalink
Hi Padmanabhan
The point is, why should the goverment bent on going ahead with this specific route for the project, when thre are around 5 better options, that are available without destroying the ancient structure/sethu bridge?

So there is no opposition to the construction of the bridge, only for the route that is being proposed which will blow up this structure.

For that matter only during the previous goverment, this project was signed off, but with a different route.

So, do remember that as such BJP or any one is not against this project, only the route thats being proposed.

And, no point in raising questions like whether Ram existed etc. That is beyond argument, similar to asking about existance of god.

Can anyone question the validity/existance of Gods of other religions? They will not because they r aware of the reactions. Just becoz Hindus are peace loving, that should not be exploited.

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RE:Why are we fighting?
by shajikumar bhaskaran on Sep 13, 2007 05:37 PM  Permalink
Well said

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HEY RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by AJITH VARMA on Sep 13, 2007 05:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

IT IS RIDICULOUS/SHAMEFUL THAT A PARTY NURTURED BY MAHATMA GANDHI HAS INVENTED THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF RAM AND OTHER CHARACTERS IS RAMAYANA!!!! WHAT ELSE CAN WE EXPECT FROM A PARTY RULED BY A FOREIGN LADY WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY BACKGROUND EXCEPT RELATION WITH NEHRU FAMILY AND HAS A TAIL AFTER HER NAME "GANDHI" TO CHEAT ILLITERATE PEOPLE OF INDIA. AFTER ONE OR TWO CENTURIES THEY WILL DISCOVER THAT MAHATMA GANDHI IS ALSO A MERE STORY. R U AN INDIAN? AYODHYA WAS RUINED ONLY BARBARIANS BECAUSE MILLIONS BELIEVE IT AS BIRTHPLACE OF RAMA. NOW THIS BARBARIAN MINISTERS/RULERS HAVE DISCOVERED THAT RAM NEVER EXISTED!!!!!!!!

IT IS SHAME TO OUR MOTHERLAND. THEY ARE NOT INDIANS!!!

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RE:HEY RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 13, 2007 05:42 PM  Permalink
History will say Communists are not traitors.

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Ram-Sethu
by K Khan on Sep 13, 2007 05:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We had bizarre incidents yesterday women had to deliver babies on road why people did not oppose that?? Why these anti social not lynched at roads.

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RE:Ram-Sethu
by Mayadhar Moharana on Sep 13, 2007 05:42 PM  Permalink
K Khan
Answar the quiz.

Which party calls most of the bands?

Which party is responsible for permanet band of factories?

I think you understand. Yes you better understand and shut off your mouth

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RE:Ram-Sethu
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Sep 13, 2007 05:32 PM  Permalink
HI Khan
These kind of incidents happen even during the bandh called by various parties like Communists,regional political parties and also the muslim league/MIM/TMMK (in tamilnadu).

Recently there was some violence in agra, and many lorries were torched. Did the police took action on all the culprits?

I am not saying this is right, but when people's patience is being exploited, you just cant help with these kind of things.

Will the goverment do such irresponsible things if related to other religions? Think about it.

The sad thing is, the interests of people are taken care of only when they indulge in violence, or show their might by organizing agitation etc. If people are good and peaceful, they are considered as weak. Thats the tragedy.



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RE:Ram-Sethu
by shajikumar bhaskaran on Sep 13, 2007 05:17 PM  Permalink
You forget the days in the name of US act in Iraq many of them blocked the roads. At the time of President Bush's visit many roads are blocked. These are not concerned with India, still many faced the problem. Where were u at that time.

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Left shows its guts even it has 61 MPs. A party is roaming here and there for money, which has more than 130 MPs.
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 13, 2007 05:10 PM  Permalink 

Left shows its guts even it has 61 MPs. A party is roaming here and there for money, which has more than 130 MPs.

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for Christans asking us questions
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 05:10 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

all those christans asking us questions - lemme tell u your cross itself is wrong, its false

There is no way Christ's hands could have supported the weight of his body with nails

got any answer to that???

at least we worship GODS, not like u, u will see GOD only after u die and its a pity it won't b christ

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by venkata kandarpa on Sep 13, 2007 05:34 PM  Permalink
dear has any of us seen how jesus died ....no but we were made to belive from our parents then scriptures etc..so is the case in all religions. Faith is the basic foundation in any religion. No religion is above the other .Faith and only faith is fabric of the religion.Dont shake it.

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by Sridhar Jajula on Sep 13, 2007 05:13 PM  Permalink
His feet were on a pedestal, and his feet were also nailed u ignorant dimwit. Try to understand the difference between History and STORY!

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RE:RE:for Christans asking us questions
by Mukkesh Gandhi on Sep 13, 2007 05:37 PM  Permalink
You mean to say what hindusjainsbuddhists talk about is a story and what cristians speak is history. Then please let me inform you that the drowned city of dwaraka was found in the gujrat, and many such secrets lie in the heart of the BHARAT. But with cristians in this land they never allow to excavate the truth and spread it. more over our nation has lost 16000 temples by muslims and total doucumentation by cristians what else can we say to those who say YOGA must be banned. The Religious Structure of the Sanatans is as such that they leave most of the work for the GODS so you will not find anyone fighting for gods among us as compared to other religions. More over we always had Wrong MenWomen among us "The biggest example is the Ravanas Brother Vibhishan" who was the reason of the downfall of the GREAT Ravana. Similarly there are many selfish HINDUSJAINS who will not think of the Whole community but will support Outsiders and Betray the whole community. Today we have Cristians on all the TOP Posts of the Nation. I am not surprised with reaction as such from the govt and people like you who have named themself as hindu but have cristian heart.

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by Chet on Sep 13, 2007 06:36 PM  Permalink
Mr.Sridhar Jajula. You are disgraced and converted moron. What more converts can think off... If you don't believe existence of Ram.. then we don't belive in existence of Christ / Cross.

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 05:17 PM  Permalink
so r u trying to tell me his feet stopped him from falling from the cross-- use common sense, if your hands are nailed and feet too, the nails will rip apart and the body will hang or rahter fall with nails on feet intact and after some time, the nails on the feet will also give way...was he stuck by some Glue...one allegation and u start abusing..that goes to prove how INTOLERANT u chirstans are

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by shajikumar bhaskaran on Sep 13, 2007 05:20 PM  Permalink
In long run History become Story. Don't try to make another controversy

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by charles sam on Sep 13, 2007 05:36 PM  Permalink
Please understand that the issue is for construction of Sethu Project in TN, which was opposed by certain sects of ppl who are against developments in India.
Also if u r a true citizen of India jus compare the benefits of Sethu project instead of protesting for a piece of land under water which is of no use.(even during the regime of ppl who support that)

Request you to understand that God does not need a Proof in earth for His existence.

To answer your question on death in cross, this is the best death sentence given to the worst sinners.

Pls see throu History for how they tie the hands with rope before they nile & hang..

For more piece of info pls visit the below link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion

Regarding ur last line comments , my advice is pls seek God(not religion), If God is there He will sure show u the way. Pls dont go by culture or tradition or some one else belief..

hav a gr8 week

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by on Sep 13, 2007 05:20 PM  Permalink
Whyo was jesus christ's father. When he could not protect himself foom crucification,how can he give salvation to others dead and living?

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by on Sep 13, 2007 05:15 PM  Permalink
You idiot the hands were tied with ropes and nailed. First you should know the facts before you open you dirty mouth.

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RE:RE:for Christans asking us questions
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 05:18 PM  Permalink
ropes???? i don't see any ropes in the cross...the person above never mentioned nails--- kiddos go and read your bible and and then decide it was ropes and nails or just nails

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RE:for Christans asking us questions
by Mukkesh Gandhi on Sep 13, 2007 05:24 PM  Permalink
Who Gave the Jesus the power the enlighnment the tencommandments ...... Hmmm.... was it the surya dev (the Fire)... Surya dev.... well i also have a brother who thinks he is wiser smarter and more powerful than his father..... :)

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Sonia: Nuclear Deal is in India's Interest (News)
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 13, 2007 05:09 PM  Permalink 

Sonia: Nuclear Deal is in India's Interest (News)

India: Nuclear Deal is in Sonia's Interest









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BJP units asked to go to professionals.
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 13, 2007 05:09 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

BJP units asked to go to professionals. BJP president Rajnath Singh on Sunday asked the party's various all-India cells to bridge the gap with professionals who have started maintaining a distance from political parties, which are facing a "serious crisis of credibility." He said the separation of professionals from the party was unfortunate as a representative government in a civilised society was incapable of functioning without people's active participation.



BJP lost its face when they attacked Muslims, Christians, Communits, lower casts, artists, actors, social activists etc. About 130 MPs are in Parliament, but they can do nothing. People are so frustrated with UPA governemnt's anti people policy. BJP leaders have no worry about it. They worry about huge profit on 123 agreement after 2009 Elections. Left's 61 MPs are doing good job and their role is a constructive opposition.

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RE:BJP units asked to go to professionals.
by Inflamable on Sep 13, 2007 05:16 PM  Permalink
Sahadevan KK is member of CPI(T) - T stands for Traitors

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RE:BJP units asked to go to professionals.
by shajikumar bhaskaran on Sep 13, 2007 05:42 PM  Permalink
Mr. Sahadevan,

Do u forget that ur party members kill the Hindu's in Kerala in the name of Secularism. You don't have any right to say against the BJP. Do you think ur party is worried about the poor, if yes, tell ur leaders to withdraw the support to UPA.

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RE:BJP units asked to go to professionals.
by wolverine on Sep 13, 2007 05:46 PM  Permalink
poda maire.....we all know who is supporting congress & what cpi is doing in centre & kerala. dont blindly follow any political party. malayalees only have 2 options either congress or the communists. i pity when these people r gonna understand. the political parties have already understood these but not its people, fools.....these political parties know there will be always people like u to help them come back to power.

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RE:BJP units asked to go to professionals.
by Mayala Fakir on Sep 13, 2007 05:52 PM  Permalink
You are a delusional idiot, lost to ideological blindness ...wash off the dirt in your brain with a pinch of clorox/bleach - you would then think clealy

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Hindu-Rashtra, a marvellous thing!
by Sahadevan KK on Sep 13, 2007 05:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hindu-Rashtra, a marvellous thing!



Please remember what will be their fate, who go to attack Muslims, Christians, social activists, Communists, lower casts, artists, media etc. for making Hindu-Rashtra.



Netas make money and members and supporters become scapegoats!! They take advantages with supporter's illiteracy!



Leaders imposed penalty to two of its members Manoj Mishra (UP communal CD) and Rajinder Singh (Human trafficking case by Babubhai Katara case). Every neta will trap their supporter to escape themselves. Beware of BJP/VHP/RSS netas!!!









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RE:Hindu-Rashtra, a marvellous thing!
by Mayala Fakir on Sep 13, 2007 05:54 PM  Permalink
Hindu Rashtra on any given day is zillion times better than a Communist state... time to take your medicine...plese, don't ignore it our you'll suffer more from your ideological diarrhea ...

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Aha what a remark.....
by venkata kandarpa on Sep 13, 2007 05:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is a fact that non of the us on this earth had seen Rama, Krishan, Allaha, Prophet Mohamad, Jesus.. yet we all pray and respect Ramayna,Mahabarata,Quoran and Bible- This is what is faith and belief of individuals in their religion. This knowledge had been handed over from one generation to the other.

It is unfair on the part of the govt to play with the sentiments of any religion. Though Congress banks on the minority vote bank it doesn't mean that it can play with the sentiment of majority Hindu belief. Can any govt pass on such remark on minorities%u2019 beliefs....Never. We have seen the world on fire when a cartoon is made by Danish. But a Hindu is asked and made to tolerate in their own country even if great artists paint nude pictures of Hindu goddess- because one should look at it as an art. If a Hindu shouts one calls him as a unsecular and antisocial.

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Further even in the court while taking oath one should be asked to take oath on their religions scripture in which he has faith. It should not be only Gita. If a person has faith on Quoran or bible may be allowed to take an oath on it.

Dear politicians/artists pl don't play with sentiment of any person of any religion.

Religions should unite all of us but not divide


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RE:Aha what a remark.....
by Angelo deSouza on Sep 13, 2007 05:18 PM  Permalink
Religion is for the superstitious illiterates. Religion should not come in the way of development. Keep it personal, keep it at home. IF AT ALL.

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RE:Aha what a remark.....
by Sreekaanth P on Sep 13, 2007 05:45 PM  Permalink
Dear Angelo,

How amazing thehn if religion is so personal, many christian priests and others demonstrated against the da vinci code and got it banned in india in many places. What happened to 'personal' religion then? why did they not stay in their homes and just refuse to watch the movie insteadof demonstrating?

Likewise, even in the bomb blasts earlier in Hyderabad near the mosque, the youth in the localities came and pelted stones etc as if the police were to blame. I rememberquite a few got injured and some died. Yet,blasts in hyderabad recently now did not see violence targeted against the police though mostly hindus were affected.

It shows that Hindus are tolerant in general. This could be due to the religion or simply the gene or culture.It could even be castigated as apathy.But, in any case it is better than militancy in the name of religion practiced all over Islamic countries.

So when you are living in a country where the majority is tolerantand does not prevent you from practising your religion unlike most islamic countries, it makes sense to respect the tolerance and not inflame it.

When roads were blocked for silly reasons like Iraq war and cartoons of the prophet which in now way affected life in India, how come you guys didnt think of protesting

Do not keep trying to provke. It may result only in terrible problems to everyone. just shut up and do not get involved in debates that are not relevant to you.

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RE:RE:Aha what a remark.....
by Chet on Sep 13, 2007 06:40 PM  Permalink
Good response

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questions to the ups govt
by mahendra on Sep 13, 2007 05:07 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why was the route of Metro passing 'close' Qutub Minar in New Delhi was abandoned and later reworked fearing prospective damages to this 815 years man made monument?

Why the project of Taj corridor (which would have made lot of dollars to our money minded govt) was put off after the hue and cry of environmentalists as the construction near Taj 'may' cause bad effect on this 359 years old man made monument. Please give attention here that these monuments were not going to be destroyed but were 'feared' to get damaged.

Will any government in China would destroy or even alter The great wall of China(2695 years old) for the sake of any amount of money?

Will any one allow pulling down 4507 years old Pyramids of Egypt in lieu of any uncountable amount of money?

If the answer is NO, then why this 17,25,000 years old man made monument is being destroyed for the sake of some coins?

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RE:questions to the ups govt
by on Sep 13, 2007 05:09 PM  Permalink
17,25,000 years man made? Don't you feel it is funny?

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RE:RE:questions to the ups govt
by Angelo deSouza on Sep 13, 2007 05:20 PM  Permalink
It would be funny if it wasn't so ridiculous. Indicates his knowledge and mindset.

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RE:questions to the ups govt
by Sridhar Jajula on Sep 13, 2007 05:16 PM  Permalink
LOL! God save these ignoramuses! How naive can you get, u morons. Please use ur peasized brains and think. Question! Ask! Interrogate!

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RE:questions to the ups govt
by aniruddha Deshpande on Sep 13, 2007 05:26 PM  Permalink
You are right. Whatever could be the age of Ram-Setu; may it or may it not be a real Ram-Setu ; When majority of Hindus are having belief and faith in it; irrespective of it's actual origin, the feelings should be honoured. And even if it is a Natural Setu and not a man-made one; it is still unique and rare . So it should be preserved.

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