I am a firm beleiver in Lord Rama. And hindutva has the saying "Manava seve Madhava seva!", meaning, service to mankind is service to God and a true Hindu would definitely follow it. What are you doing to stop kids in India from starving? And tell me, do you beleive in dignity of labour? If so, stop talking about your toilet business here. And what fatty brahmins are you talking about? You know how many brahmins are below poverty line? And the offerings that the God gets is the only means of their livelihood? And more over, the reservation crowd though economically strong are weak enough in their calibre that they grab the oppurtunities of the brahmins also. Many merit students are not able to study further because of the reservations. Is that fair? And your mind needs to be cleaned up with your own toilet cleaner! I pity you Ramasubbu!!!!
RE:@Ramasubbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 08, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
Subhaprada, you are asking me same what I am asking you . I have asked if Ram can save those kids who are starving? Is he taking care of his devotees? or he was just worried about his wife? He gave job to so many vanars to build bridge, then why he cannot do something for his devotees?
He must do something if he really exists. Following principle of him (as simulated character) is a great idea. But belieing in his personality faking as real , breaking cocounuts and feeding him laddus cannot change our country's fortune.
RE:@Ramasubbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 08, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
Ram never existed, Show me one proof of his existence. Which language he was using to communicate with Sita and laxman? I think he used Sanskrit.
FYI Sanskrit is no older than 2000 to 2500 years old. out of 100000s of post and rediff and other forums not even single proof of Ram has been found except imaginary mythology or emotions. I do agree Ram does exists in heart of many people. It is simulated character of good human being. But nothing real. We can take many good lessons from Harry potter character too.
Gandhiji is not a Hindu. You are right. But honorary sir, the history has it that Gandhiji was a Hindu. No person from other religion will organize bhajans except for Sikhs.
What Ram-Rajya are you talking about? If Ram-Rajya existed till now, you would have been executed for such an immature and stupid statement.
May be Congress and DMK want themselves to be prayed instead of Ram. Let all the Hindu government employees all over India do a mass strike humming Hey Ram outside their offices.
Let the Government come to a grinding halt, only and only then, will they understand of planning to derail our faith. We will derail their lives.
Jai Shri Ram.....
Compared to other religions, Hindus are moderate but of course, there are some exceptions. Set aside the politicians, we as Hindustani civilians, take this in our hands.
Let us teach this government the lesson.
Don't ever elect Congress, NCP, DMK, CPI back to power.
RE:Ram Subbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 06, 2007 04:31 AM Permalink
Grinding halt, mass strike , humming Ram. Do you think Ram will remove poverty, crime, rape, murder which is sponspored by our own politicians, police and judiciary for money? Ask Ram for help then we will all do humming of Ram. Why not Humming harry potter? Ram made this country most poor, most corrupt, most dishonest country in world. Start forgetting Ram and start chanting Jai Mittal, Jai Ambani, Jai Birla,Jai Tata, only they can change our country's future, not Ram, so why Jai Ram???? a non existing laddu eater who couldn't save his own wife?
RE:Ram Subbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 12, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
Word about Hinduism and Ram::: Those who believed hinduism (brahmin/vedic cult) are in very bad shape. They are very poor, mostly deprived of even 2 square meal a day. Country of vedic gods is in bad shape, it is because we agree to fake gods, not to honour work or honesty.
Non-hindu countries are much well off, europe, australia, america, gulf countries. They didn't need Ram chanting to be successful in all the spheres of life and they are the one who give jobs to all Ram devotees who come from broken Ram-rajya.
The more you chant vedic fake gods, the more you are poor and pathetic. you get to nowhere. You will still work in call-centres meant for non-ram believers helping them save 20$ per hour manpower cost. They pay only 3 $ per hour to Ram-bhakts for carrying out job of 23 $ per hour, something which cost in their country.
Even that 3 $ per hour you earn , half of that is gone in paying corrupt politicians, corrupt government servants and for buying laddus, coconut for Ram & his familiy of 330 million gods.
Tell me Jeffrey bhai, do I still need to chant Ram? Jai Ram?? Tell me why???
BE little practical man, let not this country ruined by vedic frauds and other political goons.
RE:Ram Subbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 05, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
Ram is only faith, mithya, which is as good as superstition. it can be a truth. Truth has evidence.
I can prove that there was no ram with very two different versions of Ramayana itself. it was two different stories written about two authors of Harry potter. neither Harry potter exists nor ram.
Well to be on little humourous side, can you tell me why ram bhakhts clean london airport toilets and Why Ram need laddus from their NRI account dollars or pounds, Can't he give decents jobs to their bhakhats when he could give job to all the vanars to protect his wife. Keep your hard earned laddus for yourself , they are not meant for already fatty brahmins who eat offerings by creating fake gods. Ram coudn't save his wife, how can he save this country. ofcourse he will help politicians to earn votes who will loot all Ram bhakhts. I am writing real facts in humorous way. please don't laugh and undertand what we need most today to be human being.
Now there is a doubt whether Lord Rama was for real or fictitious, next will be whether Hinduism is a religion or it is also a farce, then next Lord Vishnu, Lord Ganpati and other will come under suspicion. If this will go on then one day will come when Hinduism will be ridiculed. Why the debate is going on, when there is no proof of anything. By the way, there is no proof of any GOD of any other religion, so why all this 'halla' for Lord Rama only? better proof of all the GODS should be shown to everyone on this earth.Is there anyone who can bring Proff of other GODS?
RE:Ramasethu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
Today we are making laddus for all our fake gods. We go to america to earn laddus leaving ram rajya behind.Our kids are hungry but we are happy to feed god with laddus.
Gopal Godse himself said that Gandhiji did not say Hey Ram when he was shot dead as the gun was a Beretta semiautomatic pistol. It leaves no chance to breathe. Gopal Godse and Nathuram Godse are all a part of "Hindu force". It is not a force as such. Please don't bring disrepute to that word force. Army stands for force. You could have better called it Hindu Association or Hindu Sabha.
But Gandhiji said hey ram during his lifetime. I am talking about his lifetime and not his death.
RE:RE:Ramsubbu...also which Hindu force are you talking about?
by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
When was Gandhiji Hindu? he never believed in hinduism.
ram, vishnu , brahma , all artificial, no history, Characters of brahmin fictions. They look good in stories, not in reality. Emotions cannot rule the world.
RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by on Oct 05, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
Ramasubbu, your views are utterly rubbish and you are so confused. You aren't fit to have an educated debate with. You cant do more than hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and voicing your half-baked opinions. I am sure you dont even know the Lord Ram is not a brahmin.
RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by Ramasubbu on Oct 06, 2007 04:27 AM Permalink
Look who are being used and confused by VHP and RSS. Hinduism came to existence only 500 years ago. Before it was only animal sacrifice, untouchability, devdasi system, child marriage etc. Did Ram teach all that? Brahmin were hiding being imaginary Ram to run their temple business. Today BJP is using Ram to run his politics. What happend to Babri masjid, why they forgot so easily? Once they are in power they will forget Ram and Ram Bhakats, you will still be cleaning london toilets for 4 Pounds an hour. Ram Rajya will not give you decent job.
If emotions can change fortune, why study, why work.
RE:RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by mohd salim on Oct 08, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
against india to take revenge from PRITHIVIRAJ CHAUHAN and NABAB SIRAJUDDOLA. NOW TODAYS THERE ARE SO MANY GADDARS ARE AVAILABLE IN INDIA WHO ARE SUPPORTING SONIA.some are saying that she is the bahu of india and some giving other reasons to come in power for there own benefits. the names of such type elements are as leftists,lalu yadav,sharad pawar,arjun singh,ambika sony,kapil sibbal, manu singhavi, ahmed patel,gulam navi azad,yr readdy,karunanidhi,tr balu ,mulayam singh yadav,mayavati,lk advani and most important is manmohan singh. so teach any lesson to sonia,first of all you have a targat to teach a lesson to thease peoples.so this is the time for a unity to save country from thease bad elements.because without the help of thease bad elements sonia is a zero. so you have a task to leave the confronting thease bad guys like subbu, you go in field door to door and send amassage to common man that we have a need to bockup to save india otherwise no chandrashekher,bhagat singh, subhash will come for our rescue.so guys take a sapath that we ourself became a azad,bhagat singh and subhash and we will save india ,if we succeed, it is the unprecious gift to our childern,they can breathe in a healthy and clean environment.so this is the our task wich left un completed from our independence hreo's.now commit we will complete it now. thanks
RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by Ramasubbu on Oct 09, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
There are too many cow belt vedic characaters here. like mohd salims, joseph, john, etc. They are all avatar of some brahmins .Looks like part of Ram sethu vanar team.
RE:RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by mohd salim on Oct 09, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
ranasubbu you also one of them as you have not a simple evidence of your aencient due them you are in this world. so how to you say any thing.peoples like you only sold yourself to like vaticans nothing else.like you peoples destroyed the beautiness of india if you are an indian or if you are a foreiner then you leave that you succeed in your evils. now you people can not devide humanity of india. you know the dravidian and aryans are nothing but only two branches of the same tree.but like you people criate problems and draw contoors wetbeen north and south to rule on india. you know that there are two or more than two beleifs in every religion. 1.in muslims there shia and sunni even more known in gulf countreis. 2.in christians there are two beleifs-catholic and romanic. 3.in janism there are two beleifs -mahavir jain and Digamber jain. in past like you people divided this society in different parts but now peoples are careful.so you leave it or it better for you to come in main stream. i remember one chutcola for you. there is hindu like you a shudra name chhidda. in society some people called him a chhiddey.due to this he decided to convert himself in muslim like me.molvi asked him,wtat is your name. he replied chhida.molvi told him,do't worry.now no one hirrass you. from today your name is shurakh ali.he is very happy with his new avatar.but after some time,some muslims called him "o surakh".again he is in trouble.then he decided to convert himself in shikhism.
RE:RE:no ram , vishnu, brahma, --
by mohd salim on Oct 09, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
so he went to gurdwara and explain his problem to granthy.granthy asked him ,no prblem buchha.you live here with grace and harmony.no one disturb you.the next quastion granthy is "what is your name"? he replied surakh ali.granthy told, no problem from today your name is "khadda singh" so now you are happy.some time he lived with some respact but after some time people called him ey khadde kithe janda si. again he is in problem and he is unable to knew how to do. some one you advise him that you go in church and convert in christianity.there is much money and they give respact to every one. he decided that its ok, so next day he went to church and narrated his problem to pop. after all discussions again the same quastion with him that what is your name? he told my name is khadda singh. pop told him,do't worry. i will solve your problem.our society is the gentlemans society. there is every thing free includding sex.you are allowd to fuch with any one or you marry today with some and replace it tommorro with some other like clothes and ornaments.and from today your name is "Mr HOLE".SO HE IS VERY HAPPY WITH MONEY AND .......after some time people called him o hole what is happening.again he is in troble.now he not able what to do.after so long journy and conversions from chhide to surakh to khadda to hole. he is very much terrified like you but unable to know what is wrong and what is right. so gentleman leave this controversy and try to strenthen india as well as yourself and
RE:Ram Ram
by Ramasubbu on Oct 03, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
Gandhi never said hey ram. It was fabricated by hindu forces. Big lie we are facing from last 60 years.
