i am not amused at all after getting to know the news of affidavit.under the leadership of sonia this was expected. we indian should understand that she has larger plans to spread christianity in india. when she came to the helm of congress affairs, every christian congressmen,known and unknown got plum positions in the party. be it tom vadakkan or anyone. now, it is heard that she has plans to renovate/construct more than 1000 churches across india using the national fund. her proximity to united states, which is trying to unveil uni-culturisation worldwide, is a definite proof of her hidden agenda. and all these are happening in the disguise of acceptible issues development, power safety, terrorism etc. on the social level, she wants to widen the hindu-muslim divide so that her agenda could be pushed forward smoothly. the situation in kerala congress is ample testimony to the effort for christian dominance in the party. in kerala barring a puppet called ramesh chennithala, almost every other prime post in the party are held by christians. after sonia's raise in the congress, church leaders in kerala are in cloud nine. recently one priest was seen speaking 'we won't allow the students of other community (reads hindu) to use christian people's money for higher studies' vehemently objecting social reservation in christian medical/engg. colleges. soon there will be only one way out for indians. convert to christianity or struggle!
RE:this can be expected
by MSUBRAMANIAM on Sep 13, 2007 08:11 AM Permalink
Will this Reuban Character Scientifically prove tha Marry was virgin inspite of Jesus being born? Can he prove that hair kept in Hazrat is that of the person to be claimed? Can he prove that there was no child for Jesus and he was not Married Magadeline. Can he prove that Jesus Died on the Cross and not at the age of 83? Can he prove that Grave of Jesus in Kashmir- cause of Vatican Sponsered Terrorism with the Help of Islamic Jihadis is not that of Jesus ? Then talk of Imagination.
RE:this can be expected
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
There is no bigger curse than ignorance. Use Logic! We all know that no science can prove existence of GOD, whether its Allah or Bhagwan .If its an assumption than why not assume God to be ultimate like Allah.Ram was too weak to be a God... Either Ram was God or a Person? Boss wake up%u2026. There r ample proof of God existance... Yes there is a God or super power but that never matches the character called Rama,he doesn't qualify to be called as God even if we consider Ramayan True.
I am Muslim & I say without disgust there is no proof, I hv, of existance of God but ...Its my assumption .I say I don't hv the capacity to know how he looks like but surely better than light pure from all impurity, weaknesses.He is the creator,sustainer & cherisher of all the universe all in one ,Ultimate in all respect%u2026.. that qualify to be my GOD nothing less. Did u see the movie of Children of Lesser God ? So its ur decision whoes childern u want to be...
RE:RE:this can be expected
by rickylara on Sep 13, 2007 08:12 AM Permalink
YES I AGREE THAT QURAN CANNOT GIVE YOU SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND HIS PROOF OF EXISTANCE.
RE:this can be expected
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
Ricky , I can't spent more time to a waste guys like u .U don't follow Vedic religion..otherwise u will not do idol worship & u will sacrifice cow for making the the God happy.And there is no word in vedas like Hindus or Rama... Aby yaar mera time barbad naheen kar aur bhee bahuto say baat chal rahee ...hehehe
RE:this can be expected
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:43 AM Permalink
Wow...super creativity and imagination..This is almost as good as the imaginary monkey bridge. You covered, international conspiracy, christian mission, terrorism, kerala politics, students unions, conversion and much more. All for a simple fact that states there is no bridge in the occean. Accept it man and stop crying for your failures
RE:this can be expected
by on Sep 13, 2007 07:14 AM Permalink
Ruben I really want to see you ...whr r u put up after 1000 years is there anything to prov that you are there........does it mean you are not born...........if that is true...i will come to you and make true..... wht say???
RE:this can be expected
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 13, 2007 07:18 AM Permalink
True, Reuben. How on Earth do monkeys build a bridge? It is time somebody spoke up and revealed the truth. congratulate the government on their bold stand.
RE:RE:this can be expected
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:47 AM Permalink
No one is wasting money on the virgin birth. You are actually asking the government to waste crores of ruppees on this monkey bridge
The affidavit might have been drafted by the UPA Thinktank pseudo intellectual Mr MANI SHANKAR IYER
The main reason in drafting the affidavit is just to please the anti-ram DMK Chief Mr Karunanidhi.
To stick on to power and get the blessings of the cheap chif Karunanidhi, the UPA Govt has now dared to insult God RAM.
What they ought to have taken care in the affidavit is that they should have opened the affidavit by saying "we respect the sentiments of millions of Hindus and the epic of Ramayana but historically we have no recorded evidence to prove the Ramasethu(with out mentioning RAM).
At this stage the Govt is unable to submit the evidence and we leave the matter to the Hon'ble Court for a decision.
we are not even sure whether the brige is made by humans or of natural one as it would take several months to investigate the same!
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:38 AM Permalink
It is already investigated by ASI and it is a natural cause. there is nothing there. It is all clear for the canal. Except for an imaginary bridge built by monkeys....
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:42 AM Permalink
xians mind your language. You will live peacefully only as long as Hindus dont radicalize like their muslim counterparts. If you have guts, dare to say something about mohamed in public.
RE:RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:44 AM Permalink
What is this got to do with Muslims. Dont divide and rule (much like your castism)
RE:RE:RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:48 AM Permalink
its all got to do with the hanging corpse of a blastard born out of purported virgin birth. eternal losers.
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:56 AM Permalink
its xtians who divide and then butcher. Biggest liars on earth.
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by on Sep 13, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
hahaha...u make me laugh. lol threatening people on the internet..what a loser
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by MSUBRAMANIAM on Sep 13, 2007 08:14 AM Permalink
Where is the FIR Logdged against Mani Shanker Aiyer when he was in CAMBRIDE- Where he collected money for the INVADING CHINESE ARMY?
RE:The language of the Affidavit is offensive!
by MSUBRAMANIAM on Sep 13, 2007 08:17 AM Permalink
It is The Dravidians, DMK, DK who Paraded Lord Ram and Lord Ganesha with Garland Made of Chappals on the Streets of Madras- in late Sixties. Just watch How The Desease STRIKES THEM. It seems already one has Cancer?
this is a good decision.....people are arguing that the bible or the quran cannot be proved...well they are correct. it is all based on faith....just like the ramayna. There is no way you can prove this actually happened. My point is, would there be such an outcry if it was not a mandir being torn down... but some minority religion's building?
RE:Jai Shri Ram !!!!
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:32 AM Permalink
Morons like you are the reason india is so superstiotious....Grow up and do India a favor
RE:Jai Shri Ram !!!!
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:43 AM Permalink
yes, blastards born out of virgins are a real thing, and retarded xtianity is not superstitious.
To Question the authenticity of Ramayana is nothing but sheer madness. Extending this argument can this Government swear before the Supreme Court and say that there is no evidence of Quran or Bible. It is just madness at the peak. Any Government which redicules God is bound to perish.
RE:No evidence to prove the existence of Ram-Center to SC
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 07:34 AM Permalink
There is no bigger curse than ignorance.Use Logic.We all know that no science can prove existance of GOD, whether its Allah or Bhagwan .If its an assumption than why not assume God to be ultimate like Allah.Ram was too weak to be a God... Either Ram was God or a Person?Boss wake up ...U r right! there r ample proof of God existance... Yes there is a God or super power but that never matches the character called Rama,he doesn't qualify to be called as God even if we consider Ramayan True.
RE:No evidence to prove the existence of Ram-Center to SC
by MSUBRAMANIAM on Sep 13, 2007 08:20 AM Permalink
This Government is in the Last stage or may not get relected at all. Just watch how the Desease Strikes all the UPA Constituents? Most of them will perish and their family members getting the worst kind of Desease- After all they have reached the Sheer Madness Zones- to please the Christians and Islamic Jihadis.
RE:No evidence to prove the existence of Ram-Center to SC
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 09:11 AM Permalink
Abay salee Subu aapni bacha ..har baat main muslim ko kyon lata hay... Salay tum jhotay ho aur jhoot sunna chahtay ho..who cares ..stay in ur fool paradise..why do we care
RE:No evidence to prove the existence of Ram-Center to SC
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:34 AM Permalink
Well...India is not wasting crores of rupees on Allah or Jesus. But this imaginary mythological fantasy is costing money pal. If you have a ounce of brain you will understand this simple logic
RE:No evidence to prove the existence of Ram-Center to SC
by ravi on Sep 13, 2007 06:50 AM Permalink
u r a funnny man. You don't want to count the cost of religious politics the govt. is playing in appeasing the minorities and doing things to please them just for the sake of staying in the power instead of doing something progressive.
i think there is only two solution to the national security issue that india has: 1. have hindutva as the core philosoply. one nation one standard. no more subdivisions among castes etc. ppl from other religions have always peacefully coexisted in india and wont have major problem with a strong indian identity which does not question hinduism unnecessarily nor attacks its symbols like the sethu bridge, temples etc. 2. have pakis as the scapegoat - make sure we always unite indians in the name of security threat from isi. without either, believe me one day india will seriosly face another partition.
RE:national security
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
Shailesh, U r right ,India will face another partition & this time the majority community will ask for it.Hehehehe If Stupid like u continue to exist yes there is a need of partition again.which part u want hohohohoho
To Question the authenticity of Ramayana is nothing but sheer madness. Extending this argument can this Government swear before the Supreme Court that there is evidence of Quran or Bible. It is just madness at the peak. Any Government which redicules God is bound to perish.
RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Ajay Mathew on Sep 13, 2007 06:28 AM Permalink
Is Ramayana a religious book or a book about history?
RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 07:20 AM Permalink
show me a historical document which is more than 5000 years old.
Even 2000 years old bible is a patch work of BS. Why do u take it for history?
RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 08:10 AM Permalink
No sensible man can believe a paper or docs existed before 3000 years.R u guys(Hari Putter) educated? There is no bigger curse than ignorance. Use Logic! We all know that no science can prove existence of GOD, whether its Allah or Bhagwan .If its an assumption than why not assume God to be ultimate like Allah.Ram was too weak to be a God... Either Ram was God or a Person? Boss wake up%u2026. There r ample proof of God existance... Yes there is a God or super power but that never matches the character called Rama,he doesn't qualify to be called as God even if we consider Ramayan True.
I say without disgust there is no proof, I hv, of existance of God but ...Its my assumption .I say I don't hv the capacity to know how he looks like but surely better than light pure from all impurity, weaknesses.He is the creator,sustainer & cherisher of all the universe all in one ,Ultimate in all respect%u2026.. that qualify to be my GOD nothing less. Did u see the movie of Children of Lesser God ? So its ur decision whoes childern u want
RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Marco Polo on Sep 13, 2007 06:31 AM Permalink
is virgin birth only a matter of faith or a biological phenomenon(in Humans)?
RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:44 AM Permalink
virgin birth happens through solicited intercourse with neighbors, prevalent in west.
RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Ajay Mathew on Sep 13, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
Hari, what you said insults your intelligence.
RE:RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Ajay Mathew on Sep 13, 2007 07:25 AM Permalink
Hari, no it does not hurt me at all. there are many many and many things in the bible that i cannot explain. the same goes in almost any 'big' book. i believe what i believe. i dont wish to change your belief either. Live and let live. life is really 2 short for us to waste it by ranting about others
RE:RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:54 AM Permalink
yeah, it hurts when someone questions virgin birth. And you were jumping on the mythical character issue. Cant take the blow back right!
RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 07:30 AM Permalink
no thats what your parents did in order to produce a scumbag like you.
RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Reuben on Sep 13, 2007 06:46 AM Permalink
Mr.Hari...turning this fight towards muslims or christians is not going to help you. You have to face the fact, you have been worshipping a fictional mythological creature called ram.
RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by on Sep 13, 2007 07:03 AM Permalink
What is truth.......if don't find something now doesn't mean it does not exist....what if you find something after the demolition...will you bring it back....... Don't try to think you are the only genius and thinking broad minded....don't try to act smart ok...... I don't whether to praise or scold the innosense of lot of Hindhus.... If same kind of thing happens to other religions the situation would have been in a different way....by now...god know how many riots would have been started..... shame on Hindus who are trying act as smart.... Please...please...save Hindus and Hindu Culture.....
I am sure this is because of Sonia Govt... If these kind of thing continues I am definetly going to become Human BOMB..... Jai Sri Ram.......
RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Hari Puttar on Sep 13, 2007 06:53 AM Permalink
the fight is coming from xtian controlled UPA, and it must be directed towards them. When u dont know something keep your mouth shut.
RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Ajay Mathew on Sep 13, 2007 06:49 AM Permalink
a matter of faith. now do you feel like answering my question?
RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by on Sep 13, 2007 07:05 AM Permalink
What is truth.......if don't find something now doesn't mean it does not exist....what if you find something after the demolition...will you bring it back....... Don't try to think you are the only genius and thinking broad minded....don't try to act smart ok...... I don't whether to praise or scold the innosense of lot of Hindhus.... If same kind of thing happens to other religions the situation would have been in a different way....by now...god know how many riots would have been started..... shame on Hindus who are trying act as smart.... Please...please...save Hindus and Hindu Culture.....
I am sure this is because of Sonia Govt... If these kind of thing continues people like me won't just sit idle.....
RE:RE:RE:RE:No evidence to prove existence of Ram - Center to SC
by Ajay Mathew on Sep 13, 2007 07:15 AM Permalink
I said the virgin birth is a matter of faith. i asked for a answer to my question is ramayana a religious or historical book. for that you call me a genius, broadminded and advised me not to be smart. then you went on a tangent towards hindus,riots,cultureand sonia. STOP. Think and then please type.
I HAVE READ SO MANY MESSAGES AND CAN FEEL THAT WE ALL ARE UTTERLY DEPRESSED. CAN WE DECIDE AT HEART THAT WE WOULD VOTE THIS ANTI SECULAR CONGRESS OUT OF POWER THIS TIME. THINK AND FORWARD IT TO n PEOPLE AND WE FORM THE CHAIN TO SHOW OUR CONCERN.
RE:VOTE CONGRESS OUT
by Max on Sep 13, 2007 06:38 AM Permalink
get out of your depression...it is just a book and the court is saying there is no historical evidence to prove it happened..that's all..you can counter there is nothing to prove it did not happen but that will not fly in a court of law which requires hard evidence
RE:VOTE CONGRESS OUT
by Danial Fakih on Sep 13, 2007 06:50 AM Permalink
Deepak, Max There is no bigger curse than ignorance.Use Logic.We all know that no science can prove existance of GOD, whether its Allah or Bhagwan .If its an assumption than why not assume God to be ultimate like Allah.Ram was too weak to be a God... Either Ram was God or a Person?Boss wake up ...U r right! there r ample proof of God existance... Yes there is a God or super power but that never matches the character called Rama,he doesn't qualify to be called as God even if we consider Ramayan True.
RE:To golden
by Golden on Sep 13, 2007 06:29 AM Permalink
we dont need any proof from you? but why are you barking like a mad dog. did a muslim asked for any proof of your rama? did any muslims denied the rama's existance? dont cry like a mad man. islam and christianity is not coming into picture here. go save your religion. our religion is something can be deformed and twisted and then still we follow with full faith. we believe in truth and the rational thinking. we dont get flown off our feet in emotions. go fight against those who doubt openly your religion, we dont need to dondemn any lies, for the lies is made to perish by nature and any one who supports lies will perish too.
