RE:Is this Govt representing the majority of people in India????
by Poornachandra Hegde on Sep 13, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Hey you bloody scared idiot. If you got guts display your name. You shameless Muslim.
RE:Jaya Sita Rama
by Truth Teller on Sep 13, 2007 08:53 AM Permalink
Just because many believe it doesn't make any difference... truth is truth, false is false. If any proof show befor court. e.g., many centruies people believed earth is flat, did it became just they chanted so many times?
We talk as if science is ultimate truth. While there is lot of great things science has done, it is still an infant in front of nature.
Please see some facts: A few decades back aspirin was considered a great discovery and widely used. Later some researchers concluded that Aspirin is bad and it was banned. Now again asiprin is administered for curing many health issues. This is just an example. Every year we get so many controversial theories. Some say Coffee is not good and should be shunned and others say it has many great qualities - so it should be consumed in moderation. The fact may lie somewhere in between. How can we trust such science? Similar is the scientific satement about alcohol, while most say alcohol is bad and to be avoided some other studies recommend drinking in moderstion daily
RE:Science? Proof? Huh?
by Truth Teller on Sep 13, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
when you can't trust science in matters of relegion, how are you trusting when same science is taking you in aeroplane at 10km height?
But remember just because we beleived, truth will not become false or false become truth. E.g., many centuries people beleieved earth is flat, or sun going around earth... did they change just because we believed. When the proof came beleiefs have to change accordingly otherwise we making ourselves liars and our children followers of the lie. Your belief determinse your destiny
Sometime back I read in Competetive Success, a magazine that many Group 1 exam takers prepare had secion on persons Past, mentioned Jesus 4B.C Budha ~500BC Mohemmed ~500AD there they showed Valmiki ~800BC and Vedavyas ~800BC as Sanskrit poets, who wrote stories, why didn;t this agitation takes place then? You know more thing Valmiki is contemperor of Ram as per Ramayana... how it is possible one who lived 170000years back and one who lived in 800BC can be contemperors? Is History wrong?
RE:RE:Science? Proof? Huh?
by Secret on Sep 13, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
So your competetive success is all the proof you need for what does exist and what not? You must be a studious and a person who does not have yet learnt something called WISDOM which does not come from books because you have to go through thinking process and findout the truth thourhg some experiences of life if you are wise. For example, for many years humans believed that Earth is centre of the universe and believing this, they killed many who said it is not the centre of universe. Now we know the people who were killed were right. So now people believe that Rama did not exist but no proof that he did not existed either. Rather there are more evidences supporting the existence. So, destroying something like Ramsetu wihouth thinking much may not be a wise thing for the Nation. It may prove to be a heritage in future.
RE:Science? Proof? Huh?
by on Sep 13, 2007 09:21 AM Permalink
Dear Truth Teller,
I'm taking you some 30 year back when there was no DNA testing technology evolved to tell that who is your father/mother. How you came to know that so and so is your father & Mother?
RE:Science? Proof? Huh?
by on Sep 13, 2007 09:13 AM Permalink
Dont keep writing the same thing for everyone dude, first answer what we already asked you about your PROOF :)Then talk, dont rattle the same thing over and over.
And also there is no Historical evidence (proof) of
Allah (have you seen??) Jesus(Highly debated, no historical evidence) and any Jewish, Roman gods, Greek Gods, Japanese, Chinese gods.
So by the Govts logic destroy the Kaaba, Vatican, Jerusalem if you wish to build projects...
This Sikh PM, Catholic head of Congress and Aethist Communists are turning the making a mockery of the Greatest Vedic religion which inspired all the religions in the world.
Jews..Yahudis..use to believe in the Cow God before Moses killed thousands of them to follow his 10 or so commandments after his so called encounter with God.
Islam use to follow the basic principles of Vedic religion and the Kaaba had 360 Dieties. Mohammad..Mahaa Madh as in Great intellectual hails from the Quraishi Arab tribe which used to follow the dieties. Mohammads uncle was the priest of the Kaaba temple...Allah was a pre islamic Arab God that was carried forward by Islam..all other dieties and History was destroyed by the Islamic Rulers..this is a known fact.. Muslims still follow the Kaaba Vedic tradition of wearing White robes, taking a dip in ZamZam river and circumabulting the Shrine.
Christians....They still follow the Vedic traditions of Hanging a Bell in Church outdoors, replaced Teerth-prasad with wine and bread. Ever wonder why the word Wedding is used for marraige? why its called taking the brides hand or tying the knot. Why is Rice showered on the couples and above all why Christians belie
RE:And also
by Sumeet on Sep 13, 2007 08:43 AM Permalink
above all why Christians believe in the pope as a holy man even though he is not a Saint. Did Jesus write down the running of Church? or what is the Holy Sacrament after all? How does the word Saint came into existence?? They don't believe in idols but build huge Christ statues wherever they go.. They believe that Christ arose and went to heaven.
So whats wrong in Hindus believing something that needs futher research..Why are the shoals a big issue..Is this a conspiracy?? Has NASA already found out something that they wish to destroy??. Our government is full of CIA agents...
Above all Why challenge the basic existence of the Vedic culture that was followed from Cambodian Khmers, Indonesians, Sinhapur..or singaporeans to the Incas and the Mayans of South America.. to the Red-indians who use Swastika, from the Aborigins of Australia and New Zealand whose language resemble to Sanskrit..to the Druids and the Celts of Europe and from the Chinese (shinto gods are similar to Hindu gods) to the Nippons (Nipuns sanskrit expert or Japanese) and not but the least the Egyptians... Ever Wondered the Sphinx is the Sinha..lion.. The Egyption God Ra..is also called Amon-Ra..or the Sun God as per the egyptologists...Amon-Ra is the anglicised version of Ramon or Raman or Ram. the...Suryavansham.. Ramasses or paramessu was the Pharoah of Egypt and his wife Sitre ruled Egypt inthe 18th dynasty...named after Rama-Ashish or Param-Ishu?? There is more research going on by Vedic Expert
RE:RE:And also
by Sumeet on Sep 13, 2007 08:44 AM Permalink
There is more research going on by Vedic Experts in this area already. All these questions are about to be answered by the Vedic research that have been already started...The world is about to see the spiritual power and unity of its basic religion or Culture in the next few decades...
Destroy the Rama Sethu..you cannot destroy our hearts and mind...
RE:Bas...d Congress
by Truth Teller on Sep 13, 2007 08:48 AM Permalink
and he followed "when someone slaps you on one cheek, show other" which are the words of Jesus recorded in Bible. then do you say he is christian... don;t depend on some human to know God.
But remember just because we beleived, truth will not become false or false become truth. E.g., many centuries people beleieved earth is flat, or sun going around earth... did they change just because we believed. When the proof came beleiefs have to change accordingly otherwise we making ourselves liars and our children followers of the lie. Your belief determinse your destiny
Sometime back I read in Competetive Success, a magazine that many Group 1 exam takers prepare had secion on persons Past, mentioned Jesus 4B.C Budha ~500BC Mohemmed ~500AD there they showed Valmiki ~800BC and Vedavyas ~800BC as Sanskrit poets, who wrote stories, why didn;t this agitation takes place then? You know more thing Valmiki is contemperor of Ram as per Ramayana... how it is possible one who lived 170000years back and one who lived in 800BC can be contemperors? Is History wrong?
RE:Bas...d Congress
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
I can give you all proof of 5000 year old history of kings who ruled india post mahabharat. are you ready to soul search and accepts truth.Lord rama was contemporary of Rishi Valmiki.Valmiki was was 10 th son of rishi pracheta.Lord rama ruled for 81 years after coronation and afterwards left for vanprashta.Further Ravana himself was a yogi and a vedic scholar. Lineage of rama is as it is
RE:RE:Bas...d Congress
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
Valmiki was a Rishi and a philosopher of four Vedas , having knowledge of Ashtang Yoga. Rishi means he who sees Ved mantras in his heart while in samadhi. He never saw Sri Ram until Rishi Narad once came to his ashram and told about Sri Ram. Valmikiji, with the power of Yoga, saw all about Sri Ram in Samadhi. All that time Sri Ram was ruling over Ayodhya after killing Ravana and uptil then Valmikiji became Rishi and had realized God in Samadhi so how Valmikiji could utter Mara-Mara when he had become a philosopher of four Vedas and Ashtang Yoga. Sri Ram ji was born before one crore, eighty one lakh, forty nine thousand and about eighty years. In sunder kand of Valmiki Ramayan, written by Valmikiji , in shlokas 11,12 it is mentioned that there were elephants each having white, four teeth. Such elephants were available from two and a half crore to fifteen lakh years ago in Africa. According to this shloka too, Sri Ram ji was born before nine lakhs years. Lineage is like this- Shri Ram was born in Ikshwaku family. Manu was the first king of this earth. Then Ikshwaku was the son of Manu. Then Kukshi, Vikukshi, Bann, Anrannya, Prathu, Trishanku, Dhundhumar, Yuvnashva, Mandhata, Susandhi, Dhruvsandhi, Prasenjit, Bharat, Asit, Sagar, Asmanj, Anshuman, Dileep, Bhagirath, Kakutsth, Raghu, Pravridh, Kalmashpad, Shankhan, Sudarshan, Agnivarna, Sheeghrag, Maru, Prashushruk, Ambreesh, Nahush, Yayati, Nabhag, Aj, Dashrath and then Shri Ram, Laxman, Bharat, Shatrughan
RAM IS THE NAME OF THAT MIGHT GOD WHO GIVEN A IMPRESSION THAT STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THOUSANDS THOUSANDS OF YEARS PASSED. DEAR BROTHERS INSPIRE YOURSELF AND oppose such things from any one which devalue our traditional values our maryadas. Jai Shri RAM
RE:if there is nothing like RAM and Ramayana, why people gets peace when taking the name of that mighty LORD RAM???
by Truth Teller on Sep 13, 2007 08:41 AM Permalink
But remember just because we beleived, truth will not become false or false become truth. E.g., many centuries people beleieved earth is flat, or sun going around earth... did they change just because we believed. When the proof came beleiefs have to change accordingly otherwise we making ourselves liars and our children followers of the lie. Your belief determinse your destiny
Sometime back I read in Competetive Success, a magazine that many Group 1 exam takers prepare had secion on persons Past, mentioned Jesus 4B.C Budha ~500BC Mohemmed ~500AD there they showed Valmiki ~800BC and Vedavyas ~800BC as Sanskrit poets, who wrote stories, why didn;t this agitation takes place then? You know more thing Valmiki is contemperor of Ram as per Ramayana... how it is possible one who lived 170000years back and one who lived in 800BC can be contemperors? Is History wrong?
RE:RE:if there is nothing like RAM and Ramayana, why people gets peace when taking the name of that mighty LORD RAM???
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 13, 2007 09:04 AM Permalink
@ truth teller
or should I call you truth distorter.
The Vedas have mathematicaally correct facts.
Just as you mentioned, just because you cannot understand it, it does not change.
All the great physicists have coroborated that knowledge and I presume from your gibberish, quoting some pathetic propoganda to try and sway the gullible, that you are not.
Try and understand the truth.
Some b.s. magazine cannot change the truth.
For those more interested in finding out more about the techniques that people like turth finder use, read Arun Shourie's book "Harvesting our souls" or
go to Koonerad Elst's website (check namespelling)
As recently as last month some scientists have discovered some principles that can turn Einstein's theory of relativity topsy turvy. These so called scientific truth does not even stand for 100 years!! what can we prove with such acience?
RE:Science. Huh?
by Truth Teller on Sep 13, 2007 08:44 AM Permalink
when you can't prove such ancien, how confident you can say that this is built by Vanarsena? and Ram born exactly in Ayodhya etc. Are they just because Valmiki said.. who is 800BC where as the story 170000 years back... when you are not sure why do you kill people and stop development which reduces 30hrs of travel?
RE:Science. Huh?
by Libran on Sep 13, 2007 08:52 AM Permalink
Collective faith of people with corroborative evidence is stronger, saner and accurtae than individual research called science. That is why we need to believe Ram, Jesus, Mohammed. Buddha, Siddharth are historical figures.
Allah, Holy Father, Shiva or Vishnu are nmaes of super power no one has seen or no one will be able to prove. Similarly science also believes in big bang and black hole till some one comes and refutes it confidentally
How can they find evidence of Ram when Ravana's are looking for the evidence.In a country of Hindus, the Ravana's are ruling the roost and causing the greatest harm to the hindus. Appeasement of Minorities at any Cost appears to be their motto to keep their bums on the seats. Lets fight such anti Hindu Pro minorities Ravana's each one in his own way. abhay ekbote
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by deepak on Sep 13, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Hinduism is not sustained by stories. Stories simply support ideals & morals. The fact of Ram is less important than the character of Ram which shaped Indian families and character for centuries . On the other hand believing in hocus pocus of Adam & Eve, revelations and primitive political systems like the Shariat which passes off as divinely inspired is what takes humankind to the dark ages. Man must be released from the Semitic religions.
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by gadhiraju ravi on Sep 13, 2007 08:50 AM Permalink
you muslims are always blind about other relgions.u r not supose to talk about this.what do u know about hinusiam?
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 08:56 AM Permalink
stop cribbing on our religion. our religion built on moral values.it is the fastest growing religion.few billion years old.
why you people cry - scribb by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 08:50 AM | Hide replies
why you people cry when some one asks you to show proof of your god.
when you can not prove it that means it is a false faith.Leave that false faith.
religion should be very scientific like ours. No one will ask us to prove. your courts,politicians,intellectuals know ours is most advanced and scientific religion.
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by ANAND on Sep 13, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
Read Quran...It talks abt Jesus also. Prohphet Mohamed believed in Jesus...So does each muslim...
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by prakash on Sep 13, 2007 08:44 AM Permalink
to besssmilla,
you are trying to compare Ramayan with islam and christianity, LOL
Ramayana is a Ithihasa, a great composition by great minds, but it did based on real story of a man named Rama who raised to be a GOD by living the righteous way...
real Hinduism is in Veda , it is in enlightenmnet, it is in AUM...
ithihasa's are the way to teach the commoners the Dhrama...
RE:religions have no proof - bliend faith
by abhay ekbote on Sep 13, 2007 08:34 AM Permalink
who ever u are. u seem to be an atheist. Only God can help you. abhay
