First of all prove the existence of Your grand grand Fore fathers existence ,then you guys can prove the exsistence of God Ram. Second thing is Name and Location of the incident mentioned in Ramayana is still exists. Thrid,17,00,000 years ago no satellite to find structure submerged Under the water even then in Ramayana they mentioned about Ram sethu how?
Mahatma Ghandhi's tomb in New Delhi clearly has "Hey Ram" written on it, he read the Ramayana everyday. Did he believe in a Myth?
Guru Gobind Singh stated that he and Guru Nanak were descendents on Lord Sri Rama of Ayodhya...was he lying???
Mahatma Ghandhi is considered the father of the nation, Guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh are the two most important Gurus of the Sikh faith. Are they all wrong to believe that Lord Rama is real and did exist??????
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by gali on Sep 13, 2007 09:26 AM Permalink
if what is said in bible is true,what is the proof moses existed?,where is the noah boat? what is the proof that jesus is the son of god.i say jesus is a human being and lied that he is gods son.now prove me where that god is? i say mary want virgin,prove that she was virgin and yet gave birth to jesus.criticizing others religion is blasphemy and people who committed it should be hanged like in saudi arabia.so shut the hell up.
RE:RE:RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by Rohini on Sep 13, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
Rama sethu itself is the proof that RAmayan is part of indian history.
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 09:19 AM Permalink
Valmiki was a Rishi and a philosopher of four Vedas , having knowledge of Ashtang Yoga. Rishi means he who sees Ved mantras in his heart while in samadhi. He never saw Sri Ram until Rishi Narad once came to his ashram and told about Sri Ram. Valmikiji, with the power of Yoga, saw all about Sri Ram in Samadhi. All that time Sri Ram was ruling over Ayodhya after killing Ravana and uptil then Valmikiji became Rishi and had realized God in Samadhi so how Valmikiji could utter Mara-Mara when he had become a philosopher of four Vedas and Ashtang Yoga. Sri Ram ji was born before one crore, eighty one lakh, forty nine thousand and about eighty years. In sunder kand of Valmiki Ramayan, written by Valmikiji , in shlokas 11,12 it is mentioned that there were elephants each having white, four teeth. Such elephants were available from two and a half crore to fifteen lakh years ago in Africa. According to this shloka too, Sri Ram ji was born before nine lakhs years. Lineage is like this- Shri Ram was born in Ikshwaku family. Manu was the first king of this earth. Then Ikshwaku was the son of Manu. Then Kukshi, Vikukshi, Bann, Anrannya, Prathu, Trishanku, Dhundhumar, Yuvnashva, Mandhata, Susandhi, Dhruvsandhi, Prasenjit, Bharat, Asit, Sagar, Asmanj, Anshuman, Dileep, Bhagirath, Kakutsth, Raghu, Pravridh, Kalmashpad, Shankhan, Sudarshan, Agnivarna, Sheeghrag, Maru, Prashushruk, Ambreesh, Nahush, Yayati, Nabhag, Aj, Dashrath and then Shri Ram, Laxman, Bharat, Shatrughan
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by preeti on Sep 13, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
Gandhi who? did he exist? really? do Congress and ASI give their stamp? gosh, this is atrocious and reminds me when taliban in Afghanistan had blown up the buddha statutes. it is the same mindset that congress has.
RE:RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 13, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
don't talk like a nutcase Preeti. Your arguments are silly and emotional. In any case most people like you never really cared for Gandhi and his thoughts so he does not probably exist for you. For you - he was nothing more than a muslim appeaser when what he was doing was from ethical concepts derived from wisdom of our sages and rishis. They wrote good things for people and we take them for real. A lot like a thousand years later people watching Amitabh bacchan movies can't distinguish between his movies and his real self. Gabbar Singh might become your Ravan , Jai and Veeru your Ram Laxman ...
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 13, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
Gandhi kaa naam kyon badnaam kar rahaa hai. Most people in this forum throw abuse on him and Nehru all the time. If you have proof Ram was a real character - you need proof. However - people believe that Ram existed and if that brings that to right path - I thing that is fine too because not very intelligent people need some guidance in life because they can't make proper ethical choices. Ram provides ( though debatable like throwing out your wife on mere suspicion and making her walk through fire ) a reasonable model for them. An ideal of a near perfect man.
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by Shambhu Mehta on Sep 13, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Anurag you can read 'Beware of socialism' by Osho Rajnish. You will know lot more about Mr. Gandhi. (oshoworld.com-ebooks)
RE:RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 13, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
thanks for the tip. I have much better authors to follow than Nemichand Jain.
RE:CONGRESS IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
by a on Sep 13, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
haan be anurag srivstv tu to gandhi ka bada bhagat hai na sle baat tak karne ki tameez nahi hai gandhigiri dikhata phir raha hai ..tere jaise hinduon ko danda denge musalman to chillata hua kisi hindu pe kaas madad ke liye daudega, abhi bada musalmano ko dost bana hai be ja kar pooch tere jaise ulluon ki kya aukaat hai unki nazar mein
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by Galaxy Moulders on Sep 13, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
Whats there in holi macca all muslims are worshiping? i was told that is a shiva-lingam, means the allah is messenger of god shiva?
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by prakash on Sep 13, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
how can be GOD can be ONE? are you not limiting what GOD can be..LOL, ALLH is family deity mohammeds clan, ALLH means MOON GOD.
Moahmmed is paedophile,what is aysha age when he married? he raped his own daughtern in law after killing his adopted son..
why musliM GOD ALLH needs thousands of human sacrifices everyday then call it religion of peace LOL
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by Ganapati Hegde on Sep 13, 2007 09:14 AM Permalink
What is the proof that Mohammed Prophet existed and he has written the Koran ???
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by americaisgreat on Sep 13, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
can you proof that babri mosque was built by demolishing a temple?
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 09:16 AM Permalink
mohd is a great prophet. he talks to god when ever he wants. every acty done by mohd is a direction given by allah. koran is directly told to prophet by allah. you have to believe what i say.We muslims allways speak truth. ask your politicians and judiciary they will also tell the same.
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
Why you people are crying
show proof of rama ,sita,monkey god. our allah exits ,we are sinners so allah does not talk to us. our prht mohd came from allah,hence allah talks to him daily. what ever our prophet does all told by allah only. our prophet did acts allah told him to do. come you also follow our prophet and do what he did in his life. come to religion of truth and faith
RE:RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by mahendra on Sep 13, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
Allaha ki wazah se hi christians tumhare & ur lad 'ys ki M A R rahe Hai aur tum maza le rehe ho
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
Lineage of Ram Valmiki was a Rishi and a philosopher of four Vedas , having knowledge of Ashtang Yoga. Rishi means he who sees Ved mantras in his heart while in samadhi. He never saw Sri Ram until Rishi Narad once came to his ashram and told about Sri Ram. Valmikiji, with the power of Yoga, saw all about Sri Ram in Samadhi. All that time Sri Ram was ruling over Ayodhya after killing Ravana and uptil then Valmikiji became Rishi and had realized God in Samadhi so how Valmikiji could utter Mara-Mara when he had become a philosopher of four Vedas and Ashtang Yoga. Sri Ram ji was born before one crore, eighty one lakh, forty nine thousand and about eighty years. In sunder kand of Valmiki Ramayan, written by Valmikiji , in shlokas 11,12 it is mentioned that there were elephants each having white, four teeth. Such elephants were available from two and a half crore to fifteen lakh years ago in Africa. According to this shloka too, Sri Ram ji was born before nine lakhs years. Lineage is like this- Shri Ram was born in Ikshwaku family. Manu was the first king of this earth. Then Ikshwaku was the son of Manu. Then Kukshi, Vikukshi, Bann, Anrannya, Prathu, Trishanku, Dhundhumar, Yuvnashva, Mandhata, Susandhi, Dhruvsandhi, Prasenjit, Bharat, Asit, Sagar, Asmanj, Anshuman, Dileep, Bhagirath, Kakutsth, Raghu, Pravridh, Kalmashpad, Shankhan, Sudarshan, Agnivarna, Sheeghrag, Maru, Prashushruk, Ambreesh, Nahush, Yayati, Nabhag, Aj, Dashrath and then Shri Ram, Laxman, Bharat, Shatrughan
It is time for declaring the fatwa against the Congress for this blasphemy. Had it been any Islamist country, its religious head would have ordered for the execution of these so called Centre Bast..ds
RE:Proof
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
RE:religion of truth - should stand for test by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 09:16 AM mohd is a great prophet. he talks to god when ever he wants. every acty done by mohd is a direction given by allah. koran is directly told to prophet by allah. you have to believe what i say.We muslims allways speak truth. ask your politicians and judiciary they will also tell the same.
RE:Proof
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 09:21 AM Permalink
Lineage of ram Valmiki was a Rishi and a philosopher of four Vedas , having knowledge of Ashtang Yoga. Rishi means he who sees Ved mantras in his heart while in samadhi. He never saw Sri Ram until Rishi Narad once came to his ashram and told about Sri Ram. Valmikiji, with the power of Yoga, saw all about Sri Ram in Samadhi. All that time Sri Ram was ruling over Ayodhya after killing Ravana and uptil then Valmikiji became Rishi and had realized God in Samadhi so how Valmikiji could utter Mara-Mara when he had become a philosopher of four Vedas and Ashtang Yoga. Sri Ram ji was born before one crore, eighty one lakh, forty nine thousand and about eighty years. In sunder kand of Valmiki Ramayan, written by Valmikiji , in shlokas 11,12 it is mentioned that there were elephants each having white, four teeth. Such elephants were available from two and a half crore to fifteen lakh years ago in Africa. According to this shloka too, Sri Ram ji was born before nine lakhs years. Lineage is like this- Shri Ram was born in Ikshwaku family. Manu was the first king of this earth. Then Ikshwaku was the son of Manu. Then Kukshi, Vikukshi, Bann, Anrannya, Prathu, Trishanku, Dhundhumar, Yuvnashva, Mandhata, Susandhi, Dhruvsandhi, Prasenjit, Bharat, Asit, Sagar, Asmanj, Anshuman, Dileep, Bhagirath, Kakutsth, Raghu, Pravridh, Kalmashpad, Shankhan, Sudarshan, Agnivarna, Sheeghrag, Maru, Prashushruk, Ambreesh, Nahush, Yayati, Nabhag, Aj, Dashrath and then Shri Ram, Laxman, Bharat, Shatrughan
Sing loudly .. the way you sing on mike everyday ... early in the morning ... dont know what secret codes you guys transmit thru that loud speaker noise.
RE:RE:Proof
by Galaxy Moulders on Sep 13, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
The history shows all muslim king were crowned by killing there father or relatives, is this being told by the koran?
here you go, the Ramayana, in Telugu was composed in after 10 the century , do you want to say Ramayan was dated to 10the centrury..LOL
or think ramayan was interpreted bys ome one in 20 the centry, after 1000 years it is the only copy existing , od you want to say ramaya happened in 20 the century, LOL
There is even a contempereray Rmayana by Ashok Banker, who is retelling the book in his own way.
Was ther a n edict issued against him?
Therein lies the FUNDAMENTAL difference betwee Santan Dharma and Semetic faiths. We believe that each is part of the Lord and we all have our way of reaching him.
So, we accept different people trying to express their love (not hate or mudslinging) for our scriptures.
So poeple want to distort this and say the the later interpreatation is the truth etc.
Hindus should blame themselves for what this Sonia Government is doing.Can you Imagine Saudi Arabia or any Muslim country doing this way to Koran or Muhammed?Israel government doing this to Talmud? Can you imagine even secular liberal democracies in the west doing this to Bible or Jesus.They do not dare because they know where they will be in the next elections.Not in India.Not Indian Government.Nehru family's outfit-congress party and its henchmen and the atheist and ideologically bankrupt communist party care less about Hindus and Hindu religion.Hindus should not blame them.They should blame themselves.Most Hindus eagerly embrace anything western and ashamed of their own culture and heritage.They think that it is intellectual,highclass to denigrate their own religion.They think that it is highmindedness to insult Hindu religion.It is below their dignity to go to polls and vote out the pseudo-secularists.They insult the leaders who stood for Hindu religion.They call them communalists and ever other epithet.Why don't the government take other routes? Because Sonia Government careless for Hindu religion or Hindu culture.
