RE:Islam
by smu on Sep 13, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
he is abosulte true. u first go & learn. u live in hindustan & sing a song of pakistan. wow what a great cultue you hv. rahul is true.
RE:get converted to religion of god
by arun kumar on Sep 13, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
this is not religion of god .this is religion of satan or devil.u are right that the issue will become irrelevant cuz u will not repent while murderring innocent people for 'nothing'moreever ur god(for us devil) will provoke u to kill more in order to rape virgin s in jannat which is in pakistaan.
RE:get converted to religion of god
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
Yes, your Allah is good, i would say great. Your messenger Prophet is also great. But Hindu philosophy is more Universal. It's scope is much wider and goes well beyond a particular form of worship, doesn't believe in a book being sacrosanct and beyond scrutiny. It has rich history of philosophers who have enriched the Hindu way of life.
I invite you to follow your religion, religiously but embibe Hindu philosophy in your life at the same time!!
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by arun kumar on Sep 13, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
wow what a befitted reply dear. keep it up.i am happpy that their are many patriots left in our country.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
rEAD sCIENTIFIC DATING OF MAHABHARAT AND RAMAYANA BY PV vARTAK . SEARCH ON GOOGLE BY DR P V VARTAK AND YOU WILL GET YOUR ANSWER.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
dear seshdri
here question is -Ram is a fiction character projected as a hero by your hindu writers. your parliament and judiciary ASI and other intellectuals are telling.
as far as our religion is concerned it is religion of god message given by messenger of god. we trust and belive 100% ,it is a fact. since it is a fact now body will question. one has to understand truth.
come and join the religion og faith and god you need to brush up your knowledge for 100 years to debate with me and understand great religion like mine.
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
Hindus never had to resort to forcible conversion, neither by power nor by allurement or enticements. Still, it's got millions of followers. It's due to sheer superiority of the philosophy.
Those understand the true meaning of God can't claim their god to be superior than others'.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
For your info, ISLAM is spreading/increasing day by day all over the world(2nd largest) despite Quran has come 1400 years back only. Hinduism is more is more than 4000 year old, despite lagging behind. Islam will leave Christianity behind one day in terms of followers Inshallah Ta-aala
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
only to be expected when rest of the world is either busy family planning, Or not wanting to take responsibility of raising a family.
Poligamy and making abortions illegal are critical success factors for this rise, i would argue.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
check this out:
Is Ramayana a mere epic or part of India%u2019s ancient history?
%u201CBy using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in the Ramayana for the date of the birth of Lord Rama had occurred in the sky at 12.30 p.m. on January 10, 5114 b.c. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksha of Chaitra (March-April) month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Rama, the position of (the) planets in the sky tallies with their description in the Ramayana. Again, on the Amavasya of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile, the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of (the) planets in the sky was visible. (Date comes to October 7, 5077 b.c.). Even the occurrence of the subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective descriptions in (the) Valmiki Ramayana. Date of Hanuman%u2019s meeting (with) Sita in Lanka was September 12, 5076, b.c. In this manner, the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined.%u201D
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
the source is: http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&page=19&pid=116
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by beessmilla on Sep 13, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
dont teach us cock and bull stories. you have to prove existence of you god ram. your politicians ,judiciary and intellectuals question you people. our allah is real god prophet mohd is real messenger of god. we have no doubt.even politicians ,judiciary and intellectuals of this country accept this. no one ever questioned it. when you chat with me ,please mind your language
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:48 PM Permalink
Politicians of this country are sold out to their vote-banks and stoop to any level for appeasement of the same.
Judiciary hasn't made any judgement in this aspect, i would like to know what you are referring to. And what intellectuals are you talking about?
Yes, your Allah is good, i would say great. Your messenger Prophet is also great. But Hindu philosophy is more Universal. It's scope is much wider and goes well beyond a particular form of worship, doesn't believe in a book being sacrosanct and beyond scrutiny. It has rich history of philosophers who have enriched the Hindu way of life.
I invite you to follow your religion, religiously but embibe Hindu philosophy in your life at the same time!!
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
Hindus never had to resort to forcible conversion, neither by power nor by allurement or enticements. Still, it's got millions of followers. It's due to sheer superiority of the philosophy.
Those understand the true meaning of God can't claim their god to be superior than others'.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
ALLAH has power to all, since he is the creator of not only me but you too & all that exists.
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
Tell me where from you come from & where would you go, Who is behind the show, none but ALLAH
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by Seshadri on Sep 13, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
meeraj, i say, that there is no allah... dont give me crap like "your existence" and stuff like that...
RE:RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by Seshadri on Sep 13, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
Since, it is "we" who have been questioned, you had better get out of this forum...
We are better off without your stupid posts...
Also, in case if ASI asks... you dont have any proof.. that is the sad truth... ha...
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
We need not required to proof anything before ASI, since it will never be questioned by ASI or any body of the world. But you have been questioned by ASI, better you come with PROOF
RE:@beessmilla... i dare you
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
Dear Seshadri
Believe in me I was very much away from this forum since yesterday, but I was compelled to come into it due to some posts unnecessarily involving Islam into this. And as per your request i quit from this
RE:dont hold fantasy charecters
by ashok leyland on Sep 13, 2007 05:51 PM Permalink
how interesting to see ignorance at its fullest. have you ever heard of parables? of teaching with examples to reach the ignorant? well looks like you need this, ecology is not a religious issue and you petty minded bismillah, seem as ignorant of this as any other issue. ram may not have existed but environmental issues do exist and your children, their children and those that follow will feel the result of indiscriminate building. Too bad you are also an Indian citizen even if you think you are not.
How could Valmiki describe the Adam's bridge....we never had NASA/ISRO / Google earth to help him find his storyline.
There have been several instances where the ruling UPA has been wooing minority votebank....which also serves a point to please the left and other 'secular' supporters....but This time the UPA's anti-HINDU agenda has been exposed....why should the government look for evidences to prove the faith of millions wrong...Its our faith....the faith of a majority of Indians , thanks to their efforts we are divided on the basis of Castes...and are helpless creatures who cannot revolt against any thing that goes against our faith...and beliefs. Lets not forget the mess these guys created for a Hollywood movie ' Da vinci Code'even while the entire western world did not even bother about it. Hindu sentiments hold no value , they do not reflect back as a vote bank.'Divide and rule' policy still continues....think on this again...India would not have been a secular state had it not been a country with Hindu majority.
Can we start looking for evidences behind every religion and ban those without any. Just Imagine the results of such exercise....Its going to be a mess. Enough UPA , you have done enough...for generations to suffer. Enough Hindus , you dont have to hate any other faith...there's nothing wrong in loving yours and doing it boldly. Lets unite before we get extinct.
RE:existence of Ram ??
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
Past (shrouded in mistryfor all ofus) is same for all of us irrespective of religion,cast creed etc.Our present which is today i.e geographical,lingual,various religions etc has changed since the advent/onslaught of ISlam and britishers.Whatever religion we follow today is truth but do not abuse past just bcos now you are not a part of it any more.Past and history of India prior to ISLAM and christanity is same and common for all of us.Atleast learn to accept truth .Whatever differences we have today will settle down with time.Read histories of world at www.archaeologyonline.net
RE:existence of Ram ??
by nitin on Sep 13, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
They don't have guts to ask the proof of existence of jesus or prophet , Hinduism exists since time immemorial when many religions didn't even existed.I humbly request all the readers to read this http://www.indiatribune.com/popuparticle.aspx?Article_ID=68268/23/2007 India has more than 40 domestic news agencies. The Express News Service, the Press Trust of India, and the United News of India are among the major news agencies. Let us see the ownership of different media agencies.
NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of Communist party of India.
India Today: which used to be the only national weekly who supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.
CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.
Times group list: Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust, Femina, Vijaya Times, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. "World Christian Council" does 80 p
RE:RE:existence of Ram ??
by nitin on Sep 13, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
Times group list: Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust, Femina, Vijaya Times, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more. Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. "World Christian Council" does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.
Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.
Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.
The Hindu: English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland. Indian Express: Divided into two groups.
The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition). Acts Ministries has major stake in the Indian Express and later is still with the Indian counterpart.
Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao. Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.
Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telgu daily very recently.
The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India. Kairal TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)
Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.
RE:RE:RE:existence of Ram ??
by nitin on Sep 13, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J. Akbar.
The ownership explains the control of media in India by foreigners. The result is obvious. %u2014 Grandpa's blessings.
it always selects issues which do not matter,but which have the effect of eroding the confidence of hindus. it picked the babri masjid issue and constantly kept focussing on demolition of temples. actually,the muslim rulers just replaced the hindu rulers. if the ruler was good at governance,like akbar,things went on smoothly. on the other hand,if the ruler was a despot,like aurangzeb,rebellions would break out,like they did.
the bjp is in the business of making the hindus feel insecure and inferior ,to get votes. it always makes big fuss about non issues. A few of our educated friends have again fallen into the trap laid by the BJP.
the bjp always talks about muslim appeasement when actually there is nothing like that. the muslims are one of the most backward groups in india.if they were appeased,why are they in that position?
RE:IT IS TIME THAT PEOPLE STARTED GETTING AWARE OF THE BJPS PLANS
by Lijjat Papad on Sep 13, 2007 01:15 PM Permalink
if you think by just blocking bjp, you can christianise india then my best wishes to you. muslims tried and were bashed for 1000 years in trying to islamicise india. today they are reduced to a minority from dominating community. no bjp was involved in that. if christians have also increased in number and their clatter like empty pans is being heard and they do not want to live in peace, then they will also suffer the same fate
RE:IT IS TIME THAT PEOPLE STARTED GETTING AWARE OF THE BJPS PLANS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 13, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
the bjp is always trying to make out that we have to correct wrongs committed in the past. the fact is the people who lived in those times handled the situation as they saw fit. if they found the ruler to be benevolent,they cooperated with him. if the ruler engaged in despotic acts,or was bad in governance,the people instigated uprisings and resorted to force. the bjp always tries to mobilise hindus by robbing them of their confidence.
RE:IT IS TIME THAT PEOPLE STARTED GETTING AWARE OF THE BJPS PLANS
by Selvam kumar on Sep 13, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
Both Sethu Samudram and Nuclear project were initiated by BJP govt.earlier ,when they were in power.Then either UMabharathi or any gems of BJP never said any...Now as the election is around the corner and you want to deceieve Hindus,for your own money making business....politics....Swadeshi Jagran manch a one in thousand after independence and patriotic in nature was sidelined by YOU BJP . Had you made Gurumoorthy as FM then India would have got superpower status long ago....alas he is a South Indian ...So Do TN Seshan...a South Indian ....A south Indian was never favoured by North Indian BJP even though in election time you remember south Indians.... Tell me any wise economist like Gurumoorthy form Your North side with patriotic zeal and not money and power Zeal.
Mythical Ram and his so called MONKEY BRIGADE unlike the vanar sena under the dynamic INDIRA GANDHI during Indian Freedom Struggle days might not have built the bridge but why finish and tarnish the faith of millions of HINDUS since thousands of years of belief and existence of the Indian Civilisation whatever meaning and actual practice it has in todays India? If Suez engulfed many pyramids for reasons of progress as they did not have an alternative there being thousands of other ones on the ground and accepted the fait accomplice? Name and faith of Lord Rama cannot be erased from the hearts of Indians of this country and the world. Yes if there is no alternative route then the Government may go ahead devoid of political motives. Still some traditional intellectuals and experts may be with promptings in India feel that alternative route that alternative site is possible why not go for it? Otherwise events may overtake chaos and add to POLITICAL imbroglio on time when even existing Democracies seem to be in peril due to overall Supremacy of certain Big brothers who have other agendas to fulfill to preserve and run their financial carts on various counts. TV Kumar.
You fool BEESSMILLA.who are you trying to make fool.first go and learn how to write arabic words and then ACT as a muslim from all your posted comments it easy to know that you dont Know nothing about islam you are the one who is ACTING as a muslim and post some thing to make some people abuse on Islam
RE:Fool Beessmilla
by smu on Sep 13, 2007 02:48 PM Permalink
dont joke. u people r dman smart to make the bomb, born to spread terrorism ur god has taught this things to you. u people are very well know that in your country pakistan u are not safe hence u are in india wher u are living happily but giveing trouble to us. u hv destoryed peace.shame on you all.
The nuclear deal issue is forgotten. The left front has no choice but to support congress lest they be seen as supporting communalism. In one masterstroke - aunie has neutralized and fragmented the opposition. DMK can never align with BJP now and Jayalalitha will be fired either way. And BJP supporters - again will wonder what to do . Ram Sethu or Ram Mandir when Mandir has no chance of getting built in Vajpayee's lifetime.
RE:Thank you BJP !
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
Sometimes i wonder how brilliant Sonia Gandhi is, or is it George Bush who has crafted this strategy?
Anyways, BJP is confused about it's stand on the nuclear deal.
I think last 15 years of Indian politics is proof to the fact that, in politics there are no permanent enemies and no permanent friends.
The whole DMK philosophy is built on Aryan-Dravidian clashes, had DMK been true to what they profess, they'd have never allied with BJP, irrespective of the Ram Setu issue.
