Government has withdrawn the affidavit and has declared Ram existed. It is waiting for global warming to raise the sea level by 2 meters when dredging will not be necessary.
RE:RS vs SS
by Sankalp on Sep 14, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
oh yeah,a secularist at last after breaking away from your mother religion because some fundamentalist canadians sposnsored you to attack india/hinduism.have some pride,man!
dear frnds, i am a secular? person, but wht realy surprise (anger)me is hw govt of india can say there is no proof for existance of shriram? how they r authority to certify abt hindu god? r they doing it for other religion also? i mean abt mohmad for isalm, and yeahu for christ in fact doubt abt his existance is in some of there own people in u.s and u.k so govt of india is a certyfying authority for god on the earth?
RE:govt affedevit
by Sesha Munjuluri on Sep 13, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
Foolish Argument! Here the point is against the Nation's Interests and faith, and not of an individual. One should not think that, If a faith can't be proved, it can't be a fact! Question yourself, whether you have the enough establishment to disprove the faiths? The same ASI has records that show the Yaga Mantapams with 90 degrees were found, which were older than the time Pythagoras found the Right Angle. But, ASI or Govt of India, never filed any affidavit in UN court, about their findings of Right angle. How come ASI or Govt of India have got the right to file an affidavit against the faith of the nation ???
RE:RE:RE:govt affedevit
by Marco Polo on Sep 14, 2007 04:31 AM Permalink
Get lost Jacob the lier.We don't want any Xian involvement in this matter.We have enough Christians ruling us from Center even when ur community strenth is only 2.5% of total population,you manipulators!
Oral traditions are very powerful in conveying history, particularly when one has a continuing civilisation, as is the case of the Hindus.
When the marine archaeological investigation was being undertaken, the scientists consulted the local people around Dwarka about the authenticity of the sketch of the submerged city that they had made, based on their reading of the ancient literature. Invariably the corrections made by the locals proved to be correct. One has to realise that the submergence had taken place at least 5000 years ago, that is more than 150 generations. Yet, the memory of Dwarka is etched in the memory of the people.
An aerial survey has been done to establish the geographical accuracies mentioned in Kalidas' Meghdoot as well the route supposed to have been taken by the Pushpak Viman.
When an oral tradition has a long and continuous history, it is accepted as a fact, and the onus now becomes to disprove it and not to prove it.
RE:They need to disprove the non-existence of Ram and Ramayana
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
I meant they need to prove non-existence of Ram and Ramayana, apologies for the mess-up!
RE:They need to disprove the non-existence of Ram and Ramayana
by Pandurang Patil on Sep 13, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
Vinashkali viparit buddhi!! The congress is observing its last days in power..
RE:They need to disprove the non-existence of Ram and Ramayana
by ashok pai on Sep 13, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
thats the sad thing. there is too much information in ramayana thats accurate geographically. nobody writes a story thats that accurate. all referenes are to the kings and thier stories are also accurate with date and time. but our revered gvernment doesnt know such a thing! they only know how to take hindus for granted!
RE:They need to disprove the non-existence of Ram and Ramayana
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
We should flood mail-boxes of all news-paper/media editors with protest mails/emails. Unless they are shaken, they won't get into the act. Why should we expect someone to take-up our cause, like elsewhere we've to take to streets to solve our own problems.
RE:They need to disprove the non-existence of Ram and Ramayana
by Jacob Moor on Sep 13, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
can u come in 20 days from srilanka to ayodhya
RE:your politicians say RAM is a fantasy character
by Seshadri on Sep 13, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
beessmilla, you are just posting instigating remarks about a belief...
i have doubts as to your mental capacity to absorb views... it is parochial
RE:RE:your politicians say RAM is a fantasy character
by ashok pai on Sep 13, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
yeah, maybe he's a shill for someone else. fishing in troubled waters.
RE:your politicians say RAM is a fantasy character
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
Yes, your Allah is good, i would say great. Your messenger Prophet is also great. But Hindu philosophy is more Universal. It's scope is much wider and goes well beyond a particular form of worship, doesn't believe in a book being sacrosanct and beyond scrutiny. It has rich history of philosophers who have enriched the Hindu way of life.
I invite you to follow your religion, religiously but embibe Hindu philosophy in your life at the same time!!
RE:your politicians say RAM is a fantasy character
by mahmood rehman on Sep 13, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
Dont woory, Bismillah is fake name. He canot be muslim. He made terrible mistake in his statement. As a Muslim, I dont want to comment on any holy figure of any religion. That is what Islam taught me! thanx
RE:your politicians say RAM is a fantasy character
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
then all the more reason to protest against this project as lord rama was a vedanisth and full astanga yogi, he followed vedas in full spirit.as per vedas there is only one formless,oniscient,omnipresent God.This God is referred to as allah in Holy Quran.modern science has proved vedic past of middle east if you dont believe me read here scientific facts:
proofs cannot be provided for faiths and beliefs... anybody can find a lot of pitholes in all faiths; it is easy to classify them as superstitious as we progress in science and technology.... but we are still unable to explain many of the paranormal/supernatural happenings...
in such a scenario, it is not right for the govt. to ask such a ludicrous question, when it is known that the vedic culture was passed by word of mouth... it is a anti-hindu set of people who are behind the helm and hence this state of affairs...
a word of universal truth: the mind believes what it wants to believe...
RE:meeraj and to followers of all faith...
by The Lion on Sep 13, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
Really good one! Senseless things should better try to diagnose this first.
Believe in me I was very much away from this forum since yesterday, but I was compelled to come into it due to some posts unnecessarily involving Islam into this.
RE:Seems that there is also no proof for the existence of Allah and Jesus....
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
We need not required to proof anything before ASI, since it will never be questioned bu ASI or any body of the world. But you have been questioned by ASI, better you come with PROOF
RE:Seems that there is also no proof for the existence of Allah and Jesus....
by Seshadri on Sep 13, 2007 03:02 PM Permalink
ha ha ha... you are worth pitying...
Incapable morons... when you are not fit to provide proof.. why do you question our belief?
Dont give the excuse that ASI has not questioned you... ask your self... are you able to prove that allah exists? solid scientific proof????????
RE:Seems that there is also no proof for the existence of Allah and Jesus....
by meraj on Sep 13, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
Whose capability is in question all in this forum knows
RE:Seems that there is also no proof for the existence of Allah and Jesus....
by Seshadri on Sep 13, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
so what?
we have proof that Lord Rama lived... it is just a foolish statement made by the govt. which is not binding...
you are gloating on the pretext that they have questioned only our belief... for that matter you are also on the same branch... ha.. whom are you fooling..?
RE:Seems that there is also no proof for the existence of Allah and Jesus....
by on Jan 05, 2008 05:15 PM Permalink
There are so many Jokers like you questioning Islam and Quran, but you are so much ignorant about this I don't know. Better you know what is Quran I will suggest to ask this question to Dr. Zakir Naik then u will get a satisfactory answer.
There is no law against blashphemy in our country. Even most advanced countries like USA has a law. If it is needed for economic reasons to make the sea deep at Setubandha, the Government should do it. But to question the very existance of Lord Rama, by our own Government makes Hinduism a laughing stalk in the whole world. What is that religion, whose elected representatives themselves consider it as folklore or myth? Already hinduism is looked down upon as a culture of idol worship. Now if our own Government swears in its apex court through an affidavit that our God is nothing but a mythical figure then whole world will call us Pagan on our face. My opinion is that if you need to reconstruct something at the setubandha, go ahead but please dont hurt our feelings. Is this because our country has a sikh prime minister and an italian leader of the ruling party?
RE:Fault is with our government not with followers of other religions
by SSCD on Sep 13, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
Economic non-viability of the project: There are already expert studies which have concluded economic non-viability of the SSCP project. It's not a land-based channel but an all sea passage. It's going to be only 300m wide. This means the passage will need frequent clearing of sand. It also means ships more than 30000 Tons can't avail the passage, effectively ruling out big cargo/container ships. The ships taking the passage will have to avail 'pilot-ships' facility. The ships will have to sail slow and may save only 1.5 Hrs of travel time. Effectively, these overheads will offset the fuel savings.
The cottage industries in the nearby coastal region are likely to be adversely impacted. The fishermen are likely to run into severe restrictions if the SSCP channel paves way for international passage.
