Allah (have you seen??) Jesus(Highly debated, no historical evidence) and any Jewish, Roman gods, Greek Gods, Japanese, Chinese gods.
So by the Govts logic destroy the Kaaba, Vatican, Jerusalem if you wish to build projects...
This Sikh PM, Catholic head of Congress and Aethist Communists are turning the making a mockery of the Greatest Vedic religion which inspired all the religions in the world.
Jews..Yahudis..use to believe in the Cow God before Moses killed thousands of them to follow his 10 or so commandments after his so called encounter with God.
Islam use to follow the basic principles of Vedic religion and the Kaaba had 360 Dieties. Mohammad..Mahaa Madh as in Great intellectual hails from the Quraishi Arab tribe which used to follow the dieties. Mohammads uncle was the priest of the Kaaba temple...Allah was a pre islamic Arab God that was carried forward by Islam..all other dieties and History was destroyed by the Islamic Rulers..this is a known fact.. Muslims still follow the Kaaba Vedic tradition of wearing White robes, taking a dip in ZamZam river and circumabulting the Shrine.
Christians....They still follow the Vedic traditions of Hanging a Bell in Church outdoors, replaced Teerth-prasad with wine and bread. Ever wonder why the word Wedding is used for marraige? why its called taking the brides hand or tying the knot. Why is Rice showered on the couples
And above all why Christians believe in the pope as a holy man even though he is not a
RE:Read this
by Sumeet on Sep 14, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
nd above all why Christians believe in the pope as a holy man even though he is not a Saint. Did Jesus write down the running of Church? or what is the Holy Sacrament after all? How does the word Saint came into existence?? They don't believe in idols but build huge Christ statues wherever they go.. They believe that Christ arose and went to heaven.
So whats wrong in Hindus believing something that needs futher research..Why are the shoals a big issue..Is this a conspiracy?? Has NASA already found out something that they wish to destroy??. Our government is full of CIA agents...
Above all Why challenge the basic existence of the Vedic culture that was followed from Cambodian Khmers, Indonesians, Sinhapur..or singaporeans to the Incas and the Mayans of South America.. to the Red-indians who use Swastika, from the Aborigins of Australia and New Zealand whose language resemble to Sanskrit..to the Druids and the Celts of Europe and from the Chinese (shinto gods are similar to Hindu gods) to the Nippons (Nipuns sanskrit expert or Japanese)
RE:RE:Read this
by Sumeet on Sep 14, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
And last but not the least the Egyptians... Ever Wondered the Sphinx is the Sinha..lion.. The Egyption God Ra..is also called Amon-Ra..or the Sun God as per the egyptologists...Amon-Ra is the anglicised version of Ramon or Raman or Ram. the...Suryavansham.. Ramasses or paramessu was the Pharoah of Egypt and his wife Sitre ruled Egypt inthe 18th dynasty...named after Rama-Ashish or Param-Ishu?? There is more research going on by Vedic Experts in this area already. All these questions are about to be answered by the Vedic research that have been already started...The world is about to see the spiritual power and unity of its basic religion or Culture in the next few decades...
Destroy the Rama Sethu..you cannot destroy our hearts and mind...
RE:Read this
by Narayan Jadhav on Sep 15, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
All politisians are ediots. This is all done by Sonia and all congress leaders are CHAMACHA of Sonia... Hay RAM punish them as DEATH Sentence.
RE:prophet of allah - real one
by otherwise on Sep 14, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
In Islam, Allah had chosen only one dude called Mohammed, who doesn't own a clean chit in life.
But in India, we have thousands who heard the gospels from enlightenment and started preaching the walk of life, right & wrong. I particularly don't use hindu as a religion, because it is just the principles of life which any one living on this earth can follow irrespective of caste or creed or language they speak.
Just don't be a frog, come out beessmilla, think what your forefather's were before that 1400 yrs ? Humans came into existence on this planet around million of years ago. Where was your Allah for all that Million year minus that 1400 ??
When you don't honestly respect your father's words said a few decades, how come you hear what someone claim to have heard 1400 years ago ??
RE:RE:prophet of allah - real one
by on Sep 14, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
This almost sounds like patting each others back. I say you are great and you say I am great. Great logic! how can we ever dispute it!!
Who did Allah speak to? Did he tell Prophet to tell others that he is the only God? or else, how did the prophet decide? Is there proof that Allah exists? If so, what period? And why did he chose Prophet specifically? And that too only 1400 years back. Has there been no other choosen person on earth since then? Too many questions and no answers. that is what religion is about.
Similar questions also arise in all religions.
Let us believe in what we want to. but not impose on others. No religion is better than others. Equality is the best way for us to move forward.
RE:prophet of allah - real one
by rashmi sahu on Sep 14, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
Refer to astronomical dating of ramayana by dr PV Vartak.rishi valmiki has given accurate astronomical and geographical details of every events in Ramayana.When we talk of era we should consioder all of them were follower of Vedas and Astanga yogi.The dignataries about whom we all read were yogis and follower of vedas and god realised souls unlike today. Now yoga and yogic power is facinating scientist. They are doing research on this esp USa, Germany. The living proof of yogic powers were shirdi sai baba, swami Nityananda of Ganeshpuri,gajanan Maharaj,Neem Karoli baba,Lahiri Mahashay, Trailanga swami and many more yogis.You all read about them and you will understand about yoga and vedas more.
RE:prophet of allah - real one
by puthanmadathil jayakumar on Sep 14, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
i hope the congress govt at centre and its aid the supreme court of india have some heart to add up to their knowledge by reading these words of yours. i suggest we should make "Autobiography of a yogi" a compulsory book for the paliamentarians. i think the govt has to ask US whether Lord Ram existed or not.
RE:RE:just prove that Shri Ram exits
by rashmi sahu on Sep 14, 2007 08:29 AM Permalink
Refer to astronomical dating of ramayana by dr PV Vartak.rishi valmiki has given accurate astronomical and geographical details of every events in Ramayana.When we talk of era we should consioder all of them were follower of Vedas and Astanga yogi.The dignataries about whom we all read were yogis and follower of vedas and god realised souls unlike today. Now yoga and yogic power is facinating scientist. They are doing research on this esp USa, Germany. The living proof of yogic powers were shirdi sai baba, swami Nityananda of Ganeshpuri,gajanan Maharaj,Neem Karoli baba,Lahiri Mahashay, Trailanga swami and many more yogis.You all read about them and you will understand about yoga and vedas more.
there's no proof of muhamed and family or jesus or his family, yet it is amazing to see the west and the europe spend millions and billions to continue in the name of human philosophy. even for a non-hindu- the philosophy- not ritual- of ramayan, bhagvad geeta and mahabharat are of enormous value in terms of higher awareness. it just seems that india no longer needs mughal and british invaders to destroy its heritage, culture, philosophy, anything. spineless "us" are enough to do that to us.
by the way, why dont ppl march to delhi and protest this? or ask congress and ASI to prove muhamed and christ's existence! and if they cant give same treatment to their monuments too.
dont even talk about Gandhi's samadhi in delhi or Gandhi and his Ram connection? or the gurugranth Sahib and Guru Nanak's references to Shri Ram? Nanak who? Gandhi who? did they exist? really? do Congress and ASI give their stamp? gosh, this is atrocious and reminds me when taliban in Afghanistan had blown up the buddha statutes. it is the same mindset that congress has.let us march to delhi!
RE:Congress, Taliban, Gandhi and Indian heritage- weird cocktail
by vivek s on Sep 14, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
Really good one....
To add.. Congress has to apologize and should be banned out of politics for stating something which is out of the fundementals of constitution....
We believe in diversity and our constitution rightly says that beliefs of each religion has to be respected by the citizens.... Congress is against the constitution written by them, This is the story of rule makers breaking the rules... Congress should be banned out of politics, that doesnt mean i am supporting BJP -- they are bad in their own terms
RE:Congress, Taliban, Gandhi and Indian heritage- weird cocktail
by vibhor monga on Sep 14, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
I think this government is using the DIVIDE & RULE policy of the english these congressmen should be taught that this is a SECULAR country r they trying to create an unrest
Now obviously there is some evidence of a construction linking India to Srilanka. Forget Ram, are we Indians not capable of considering any issue if there is no religious context to it? The ASI rejects the presence of Ram? Fine. But then they should look into other aspects, investigate other possibilities. It is easy to destroy our heritage as we Indians no doubt know, but are we capable of preserving anything? Are we capable of creating different solutions that could save the remanants of an ancient past yet be modern? That is the real challenge, not going to court and spending crores on silly causes. Where is the creative that should be present in any country that churns out millions of graduates every year?
RE:ram sethu
by rashmi sahu on Sep 13, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
5000 years history of india from mahabharat till independence Bhartiya Chronology 3228 BC - 1947 AD December 16th, 2006 by Ravi Shankar Mukkavilli (BC) 3228 Descension of Bhagwan Krishn 3139 The Mahabharat WarStart of Brihadrath dynasty of MagadhStart of Yudhisthir dynasty of Hastinapur 3102 Ascension of Bhagwan Krishn, start of kaliyug 2139 End of Brihadrath dynasty 2139-2001 Pradyot dynasty 2001-1641 Shishunag dynasty 1894-1814 Gautam Buddh 1641-1541 Nandas 1541-1241 Maurya dynasty 1541-1507 Chandragupt Maurya 1507-1479 Bindusar 1479-1443 Ashokvardhan 1241-784 Shung and Kanau dynasty 784-328 Andhra dynasty 509-477 Jagadguru Shankaracharya 328-83 Gupt dynasty 328-321 Chandragupt Vijayaditya 326 Alexander%u2019s invasion 321-270 Samudragupt Ashokaditya Priyadarshin, orAshok the Great 102BC-15AD Vikramaditya, established Vikram era in 57 BC (AD) 25-85 Shalivahan, established Shalivahan Shak era in 78 AD 85-1192 There were several kingdoms of Rajpoot kings all overIndia. They ruled for 1,107 years. 1192-1757 In 1192, Mohammad Gori invaded Delhi (Hastinapur) thesecond time, defeated and killed Prithviraj Chauhan, andbecame the king. Since then several dynasties ofMuslims ruled India for 565 years. 1757-1947 In 1757 English regime was established in Bengal.British ruled India for 190 years. 1947 India got Independence
Dear friends we or no one can provide any valid proof of the existance of any GOD. Lord Ram was a human being like prophet mohd. A messenger of GOD and this forum to discuss the issues not to spread some religion.
RE:Proof of existance of God
by Critic ruff on Sep 13, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
Ramayana is one of the greatest epics produced by the anciet world and the charatewrs created in it were purely imaginay and not real. A magic folk tale i close to it. It is not proper to ewuate imaagined gods with one invisible omnipresent Alimighty.Poiticians have unnecesarily confused the masses with their own imaginations.(From Dr.Abdul Ruff)Delhi, Sept 11, 2007)
RE:RE:Proof of existance of God
by Critic ruff on Sep 13, 2007 05:14 PM Permalink
by Critic ruff on Sep 13, 2007 05:11 PM "Ramayana" is one of the greatest epics produced by the anciet world and the charaters created in it were purely imaginary and not real. A magic folk tale is perhaps very close to it. It is not proper to evaluate imaagined gods with one invisible, omnipresent Alimighty.Poiticians have unnecesarily confused the masses with their own imaginations for creating reift in the society..(From Dr.Abdul Ruff)Delhi, Sept 11, 2007)
NASA had before spotted and said man-made structures of earth. Men made ones have different diagonals from naturally formed one, which can be neatly shot with the eyes of satellite cameras. The same organization has earlier released satellite pictures of ram-sethu along confirming the most possibility of the structure to be a man made one. (But one shouldnt expect any positive hand from NASA in this issue)
Geologist Dr Badrinarayanan former director of the Geological Survey of India, GOI in his recent interview to Rediff itself has confirmed the same over the existence of ram-sethu.
He while in GSI (Geological Survey of India) had carry out the surveys for locating a canal project by the project authorities in 2004-05.
He team had digged around 10 boreholes alongside the ram-sethu alignment. Four of the boreholes were along the islands (where sands go on shifting) and six in the waters. He confirms, everywhere, after top 6 meters below they found boulder (round shaped mass rocks) like materials.
The shape of the boulders and the type of material clearly indicate that this is a man-made structure. Also we saw similar rocks on Rameswaram islands and also in Pamban. There are indications of quarrying also there. Together, world-renowned tsunami expert Dr Kalyanaraman, who researches on this subject, lists cartography, textual, and epigraphic evidences to show that a bridge called Rama-Sethu existed in his talk to the same Rediff.
Other evidences: "Sethu in Tamil language means "manmade bund" and this bund is called Sethuband. Asiatic Society, 1799, refers to the bridge that it is broken at three places. It also says "people call it a bridge."
The Sethupatis of Ramanathapuram, from Coastal South India are called so because they were protectors of the Sethu.
Here is one other government evidence, The Madras Presidency Administration Report 1903 refers to the bridge as a glossary entry as following. "It really joined Ceylon to India until 1480, when a break was made through rocks during a storm. A subsequent storm enlarged this and foot traffic then slowed down." "The next is a book written by Alexander Hamilton in 1744, A New Account of the East Indies which describes his visit to 'Zeloan' by walking on the bridge."
"In the Tamil Aganaanooru Sangam literature text also, there is a hundreds of references to the bridge Sethu".
This one is from Outside India. Schwartzberg and the University of Chicago as Schwartzberg Atlas that have around 100 maps showing Sethu (in bracket, it is written Adam's Bridge) clearly and the maps are dated back to the seventh and the twelfth centuries. (Does those maps still exist and where?)
In 1788, Joseph Parks, a Botanical explorer from Australia marks the structure as Rama's Bridge. But the same was marked as Adam's Bridge in the 1804 Survey of India map. There exists thousands of copper, gold and silver coins with the word Sethu on them that have been recovered in Jaffna, Sri Lanka. They were issued roughly between twelfth to fifteenth century.
"The king Krishnadevaraya's epigraph mentions that his territory extended from Sethu to Vijayanagaram."
Here is the Evidence from the Central Government itself. The Survey of India was first set up in 1767 and the logo run as "From Sethu (not kumari as today) to Himalayas." So, Sethu was looked upon as a boundary of India even then.
So historically once lot of things happened with ram-sethu bridge which also confirms that such a structure fully existed. It is a world heritage being oldest man made bridge and should be preserved. Moreover, preserving and having comprehensive researches over it could open up new evidence to the world.
