I want to tell Karunanidhi that the whites in Canada and U.S.A. are showing Ramayana to their children so that they also imbibe the qualities of Lord Rama.
It is Kalyuga and I am not surprised to know that opportunitist like Karunanidhi will surely behave like Ravana, a shivaite brahamin.
Karunanidhi knowledge about Tamilnadu is poor. His ancessters were devdaasis and pakhawaj players in temple.
RE:Rama's father
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 19, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
As skumar had a biological father Lord Rama also had a biological father.And pushpak vimana didnt had a engine but like birds it can fly any height with yogic power of the person who is flying it.
RE:RE:Rama's father
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 19, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
if you havent understood ,then meet your biological father and ask him his biological father.
RE:Rama's father
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 19, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
Dear skumar ,I know that purposefully you are trying to poke but remember skumar everybody knows who the father of Rama is.And understand one thing the mythology of Hindus dates back when proofs of science were not discovered and not recorded .the yogic power where people ,sages and religious heads were using cannot be explained until you experience it.If something is said in scriptures ,it has some basis which is relevant to the conditions and the capacities of those times.If history says Dinosaurs existed and they were huge ,its difficult to believe in these times ,as we cannot estimate and believe that they are so huge.Similarly,if you have read miracles, unbelievable things happened in Hindu scriptures ,its not simply for the sake is written, but it is beyond you believe that in those days many such things might have happened.
RE:RE:Rama's father
by skumar on Sep 20, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
Miracle and science
If a miracle can scientifically be proved then everybody will accept the fact. But, if it is based on someone'a imigination then it will be difficult for rational people to accept it. 'Ramayana' can be at the best considered as a good science fiction combined with geographical knowledge and social condtion of that era. But if we have believe in Rama's exsitance then we have to believe in so many things which is not possible scientifically. Just try to calculate how much force is required to lift 'Gandhamadan' mountain and then jump with it to cover a large distance. Being educated in science does't mean that someone is rational in thinking, otherwise we would not have astrology in TV,internet and print media.
RE:RE:Rama's father
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 20, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
skumar science cannot prove everything ;like can you prove the 'AIR';its only by feel you say air is around but can you prove it by showing if i have to believe.If not why the exception.what engines dothe birds have to fly like aeroplanes ?what is the force of displacement involved to fly,like a mechanical engine.This same force ,we refer to as the power of God.And Lord Rama is a divine force personified.If you limit your sphere of understanding and try to counter-argue then there is no answer.And particularly ,with the ancient scriptures ,you dont find the present systems of questioning,reasoning,proof and inference .As all the scriptures were stored in the form of'taalla patras',which doesnt remain for centuries ,many important and reasons for all your problems which have been mentioned are lost in due course of times.And that too very little scriptures on HINDU culture are available.
RE:RE:RE:Rama's father
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 20, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
And for your small mind skumar, I think such a great 'EPIC' looks like a science fiction which really hurts me as you couldnt differentiate between a science fiction and a respectable book with so many human values ,etiquettes and morals which everybody should imbibe for a rational way of life.
RE:Rama's father
by amdabessst on Sep 21, 2007 06:33 AM Permalink
Guys dont answer these fellows who themselves believe in their religion blindly and try to accuse others. They should know to respect others feelings. I feel they should accept one truth, that ppl belonging to both the religions should know at one point of time they were born either bcoz they were down trodden and for the benefit of monthly ration converted themselves or that their parents were forced into the religion by other means. Its the jealousy for not enjoying this oldest religion on earth.
Karunanidhi should stand by his statement and destroy all worship places in TN .If he really feels Ram has no existence he should be dare to comment on Islam, Christian.Secondly IF BJP has approved the project and now there sister party playing dirty politics m,edia should publish facts on this project
Leave apart that, Lord Ram as a god and avatar of Lord Vishnu , we Hindus treat Lord Ram as a great emperor,as a person who never lied and so truthful,good son who listened his father's words,a respectable elder brother,a good husband to sita maa as he is very truthful,a good father to luv and kush,a simple person who respected the words of the fellow countrymen,a good friend to many creatures on earth like monkeys,squirrels etc,a warrior against evils and dirty politicians ,an excellent disciple to his guru,above all very good governance-Ram Raajya.with all these qualities show me a human,reason why he is god to us ,leave apart that he is an avatar.we have so many such great great qualities personified since lakhs of years because of which so many deities ,leave apart their spiritual and mythological Basis.Reason why we dont need proofs-each Hindu himself is a proof of our deities and i mean you cant seperate them from the spiritual and mythological way of life and we dont need to maintain any proofs to clarify the idiots who never try to read the underlying truth.
RE:Lord Rama
by on Sep 20, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
Read the complete story UNCOVERED by Indian Express http://www.indianexpress.com/iep/sunday/story/33813.html
It is the old story of four blind men making their own observation of the elaphant's legs.Lord Ram is a character in Hindu mythology and has tremendous influence on shaping the moral of generations including the Great Mahatma.Any one questioning his historical presence questions the very tenets of Hindusim which is also a faith for thge believer.When the great saints have been guided by his grace we are nobody to dispute him.But if somebody does not believe it is his business.No one is a better Hindu as non of us follow his idologies.Least of all the BJP or for that matter any political party who are just as well casteless crepes.The question is whether the tunnel has to be built accross the Sethu built by Ram.Considering the economic reasons- let that be thooughly analysed for the pros and cons- the decision has to be taken.Ram would not have disapproved such a venture if that would help the countrymen irrespective of religion,caste and creed.
RE:Issue is the Setu not Lord Ram
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 19, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
I agree if it was in Ram's time but now it is a most valuable structure for all Hindus in terms of respect and sanctity.And more study has to be done on Ram sethu to support that it was build by Ram.As you cant destroy your own family for 'economic reasons',similarly you cant destroy the ancient structure-Rama Setu-which has a binding to INDIAN TRADITION AND CULTURE.And everything you cant link to business and economics.
Its time for clever action against Karunanidhi and Maran group of companies
by Manu on Sep 19, 2007 09:46 AM Permalink | Hide replies
Dear I am not a fanatic hindu and neither a BJP supporter. I had a deep respect for Dr. manMohan but I had also equally deeo respect for belief of millions of Indians who believe thet Rama was a god. I respect my culture and traditions and hate to the people who donot care others belief for grabbing power like Karunanidhi. Yesterday some people attacked the Sun Tv office in Bangolre. It is not a proper way. The best way is to bycott this Channel. Tell your cable operator to cut this cable. If all hindus will start doing like this these guys will automatically either finish or wll be forced to change their mind set. They are minting money from us and abusing us too. Its not a fair way. So I appeal all Karnataka hindus and even muslims that if they have some respect in traditions of this country, please start bycotting all things of Karunanidhi and Maran groups have.
RE:Its time for clever action against Karunanidhi and Maran group of companies
by gundapantula ravi shankar on Sep 19, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
manu why we should not be 'fanatic Hindus' when it is a question of protecting tradition,culture and properties relating to us.Why we should lose to others?why we should beg our own freedom and liberties in our own country?Do you think we should still allow the idiots to comment and spoil the tradition and culture of this country?Do you mean we are not capable enough to face these rogues?We need to be fanatics these days as enough tolerance and enough freedom has been given to all rogues and idiots.Please analyze.
prove RAM , ALLAH, VIRGIN MARY,TORAH - ALL FALSE by beessmilla on Sep 19, 2007 08:34 AM | Hide replies
leave blind beliefs - rational humans are better for the society by beessmilla on Sep 19, 2007 08:18 AM | Hide replies
BLIND BELIEFS - FOLLOWED BY ALL RELIGIONS by sharp head on Sep 18, 2007 12:47 PM | Hide replies
every belief should be questioned by sharp head on Sep 18, 2007 10:58 AM | Hide replies
Whether koran is told by allah or writeen by some vested interest people after death of prophet mohd should be told by supreme court. whether jesus born to virgin mary how this is possible should be told by judges.
their religious beliefs bringing poverty among believers by way of having many children whom they cannot feed etc etc and their by they are becomming burden to the society causing social unrest and progress of the country and fellow citizens.
Dear politicians please take up this case. EDUCATE THE PEOPLE
RE:GIVE EVIDENCE FOR THIS
by chacko paruvanany on Sep 19, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
Truth is eternal. It cannot be proved.It has to be experienced. There is a higher inteligence in us which alone can grasp the truth. What we call historical and scientific are mental illusions.Hence truth is not a matter of debate or judgement.Let us learn to distinguish between truth and illussions. There will not be any conflict.Please do not mix these two which can never be mixed. Any attempt mix will create more conflicts and illusions.