The "genesis" of contemporary classical South Indian music is traced ONLY in Tamil Nadu. The holiest of all holiest places in the entire Universe, ONE AND ONLY, "Thiruvarur" is the birth place of Carnatic Music - from where our CM also came, ironically, though!
Though, many pay tributes to Thiaga Brahmam in Thiruvaiyar - which is the place Thiagabramam attained Moksha.
The "genesis" of contemporary classical South Indian music is traced ONLY in Tamil Nadu. The holiest of all holiest places in the entire Universe, ONE AND ONLY, "Thiruvarur" is the birth place of Carnatic Music - from where our CM also came, ironically, though!
Though, many pay tributes to Thiaga Brahmam in Thiruvaiyar - which is the place Thiagabramam attained Moksha.
Who is mad? Whatever I said is plain facts. You are ignorant of South India and TN and about Karnatic Music. WHy do you want to post your views here? Have you heard classical Indian music any time in life? . have you heard the bad things told by DK about all these? So better keep yourself informed rather than proclaim your ignorance in the garb of "HUMANISM". Communism is dead and long ago dead.
RE:TAMIL ATHEISTS SAID THAT MUSIC AND YOGA WAS HARMFUL...
by MGR Fan on Sep 15, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
The Atheist DK said that Yoga is harmful to health . It is well known fact. They also said that Carnatic Music was harmful to Tamil culture and causes health problems.
You seem to be either ignorant (of facts) or filled with hatred (for god, music, yoga).
If they dont like Karnatic Music, or bhajans or Christmas Carols, the Atheist DK folks should have their own music and try to organise similar music shows (in Tamil or English) in Marina Beach.
Let them organize and see how many people come to hear them.
RE:WHY DONT THE ATHEIST DK GROUP HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC ?
by sanchita datta on Sep 13, 2007 10:06 AM Permalink
I tght MGR was dead?has he come back frm the grave to make stupid comments?
RE:RE:WHY DONT THE ATHEIST DK GROUP HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC ?
by MGR Fan on Sep 13, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
MGR is dead, but his good work will live on.. Just as Communism is dead, but Communist Atheists are continuing their work (of destroying the country from within)... Go to your communist hell hole and plan your next strke or bandh
RE:WHY DONT THE ATHEIST DK GROUP HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC ?
by sanchita datta on Sep 14, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
YA...MGR is dead!But has left behind FANS...who have nothing better to do but to make moronic comments.And Mr.Fan..wht makes u think Im a communist?wud it make ne sense to u if I said Im a HUMAN(IST)?Frm yr comments it seems u r the one....writing from hell!!!
RE:RE:WHY DONT THE ATHEIST DK GROUP HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC ?
by MGR Fan on Sep 15, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
Yes, Your humanism shows itself in your worshipping of Humanist Stalin (killer of 30 million russians), Humanist Mao (killer of 60 million Chinese), long live your atheistic humanism.
PS - You dont know much about TN, and so better you admit your ignorance and shut up
RE:WHY DONT THE ATHEIST DK GROUP HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC ?
by sanchita datta on Sep 15, 2007 06:55 AM Permalink
again u r SUPPOSING that am a COMMUNIST!!!am convinced abt one thing ....u r mad..severely deranged.....and on the run from some mental hospital.get yrself checked pls...u need to be treated...u r sick!!!!
It is not easy to give a Carnatic Music concert. One has to learn it for years with a guru or several gurus. Singing a kacheri in the park or roadeside will not increase the number of listners of this branch of music. One need to to spend time and enery to understand it.
Going to public and bringing to public are good and befitting to some kind of issues not for Carnatic Music and artforms like Kathakali etc. Having said that, these typs of acrobatics viz singing in a park and roadside will give a 15 minutes fame for the contestants and organizers, that too if they are lucky enough.
first they took these arts away from common public man and started saying as its for a particular sect of society. now they are trying to make it like american democracy taking it to people.
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by Vasantgopal on Sep 25, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
Dear SS and 'simple' Carnatic music has nothing to do with caste, it may not be popular music but is the base for light and other kinds of music. Even folk music is commonly based on Nattai, kurinji ragams. IN Thanjavur district everyone from Police officer to farm worker has solid knowledge of carnatic music. Other e.g. are barbers who are excellent nadaswaram vidwans. In Kerala, even mapla muslims who claim arabic ancestory have excellent appreciation of carnatic. You may be aware of these facts, I am just reminding you. Only problem Dravidian atheists have is that 99% of carnatic music is devotional!
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by simple on Sep 12, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
I know what u mean; I'm not a Brahmin. But I do believe that its all indiviual interest. And these individual interests will definitely flow down the generations with the blood. Btw, Who is preventing u from learing the music and also pass it on to the Kids? But dont get carried away by what the so-called Dravidian leaders say?
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by ss on Sep 14, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
I am not a brahmin and not a follower of dravidian leaders.
all i said is as you mentioned people should be free to follow what ever they want. the arts is always by simple people and they nurture it. but when people started making money they make it more complicated and take it far from common man.
please look if ordinary artist from villages can eneter music academy or so many academies.
music is for people to listen but is it possible for any musiican to give it to publis you need real support only then a company can sponsor. putting inn simple words take cricket its not easy who ever plays can become a ciricketere too much money is there and game is no more too much money in music industry and no music
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by on Sep 13, 2007 07:49 PM Permalink
The history of how performing arts came into existance is simple that everyone wanted ways to enjoy viz. Dance, music, drama etc to rejoice. It depended on their liking and sensibility for a particular form of performing arts. Since music karnatic/hindustani is classical and required certain chaste approach, it couldnt attract masses to it but was limited to certain sections of society, as per the then rulers' liking. We read in history that during certain rulers' time, there was development in Art and music and some tried to destabilise etc. So it doesnt seem like some section tried to restrict it but more or less it is liking. Its a fact that most of us prefers cinema/TVshow to a music concert, as later required some sensibility that might be genetic!!!
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by Kabeer on Sep 12, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
Needs a little diging into history. When Devdasis nurturing these arts, the society looked down upon them and these arts. Then it became necessary to preserve these art forms of Music and Dance. That's when, women of the upper strata of the then society took an adventurous step by lending a helping hand to Devdasis against huge uproar by the then conservative society. One may check the story of Rukminidevi Arundale. It was a risky step in those days- if you succeed, you can give an aura of respect to that art but if you fail you yourself risk degradation in the then conservative society. When I say society I dont mean only the upper strata but all sections of society. In those days all sections of society looked down upon devdasis. If truth needs to be found without bias or prejudice one may know the story of the great MS Subbulakshmi. Even a diamond needs polishing. But for his support the world could not have known as much as it did of this great musician. No one has taken away from anyone. Just lent their support when the society degraded them-so that one day we can have a Rahman among ourselves.
RE:Chennai
by Dilip on Sep 11, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
Yeah, and we don't have people thinking that they are God's gift to mankind even looking the way they do. Kannadigas are not agonisingly superstitious like you guys. Kannadigas don't lift their lungis exposing their ugly knickers to the world. Kannadigas do not build 'Dembles' for mediocre actors. Kannadigas do not bathe their stars' cutouts in milk and cow urine.
RE:RE:Chennai
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on Sep 11, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
Atleat you or many try to criticize Tamilians, Tamil cinema... Many south indians doesn't have any knowledge about the Kannada film industry (not worthy for criticism!). That's where you stand.
Anyway, from your comment, I can see that you must have never lived in TN (the grand temple state of India) or never watched Tamil or Malayalam films (only story based, not rosy painted film industries in India). You must have taken a auto ride on a day and got fed up.
RE:Chennai
by Totoman on Sep 11, 2007 10:31 PM Permalink
Yeah there is a surplus of milk and honey in Chennai.. but all kannadigas do is sit and eat masala dosas and fart.. crib and crib about persecution..as far as the moronic behaviour of the monkey man fans (!!) the less said the better...
RE:RE:Chennai
by Totoman on Sep 11, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Darwin's theory of evolution is a world wide phenomenon and Chennai is no exception..Bangalore has the best specimens of this theory...
