COMMON BLOGGERS BE SENSIBLE AND FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO RATIONALISE THE COUNTRY ON NAME OF RELIGION,,U NEVERGONNA SUCCEED HINDU OR MUSLIM EXTRIMIST!!!I HOPE IF THIS JIHADIS DO A FAVOUR TO US AND KILL THESE HINDU AND MUSLIM EXTRIMIST IN INDIA...
COMMON MY INDIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN INDIA LETS START RAISING A FUND TO THE CONTRACT KILLERS TO DO THIS JOB.
RE:STOP THE NONSENSE REDIFF BLOGGERS
by rama prasad on Sep 10, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
Muslims should understand that Congress is making them more bad than good. They are using muslims as tissue paper and their quron as voting ballot. Get educated and vote for those who will really do good to u. Or else u all will be named as terrorists one day and there will be no place for muslims.
Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
ONLY WAY TO STOP JEHADIS IS FOR HINDUS TO UNITE.
"The Hindu Muslim Problem will be solved in a day when Hindus unite" - Sarat Chandra Chatterjee, pre eminent Indian Novelist, spoke thus in 1920s seeing disaster of Cong's support of Khilafat Movement.
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Anuj Sharma on Sep 10, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
But Thatagat da I think this is a difficult process, The politicians have divided us on caste creed and sex. Some so called moderates (congress, CPIM and other) (No offence meant) are trying to fool themselves and the ppl of this country. Every body is bothered about the muslim vote bank and nobody talks about hindus. It is our mistake that we dont follow a united voice. Liek muslims when Fatwa is raised to vote for BSP everybodyu will vote for BSP but in our case we are divided. It has become a fashion to abuse BJP , RSS and their idelogies by so called secular Hindus. In near future I dont see this happening but yes, i would definately see this happening..
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Sep 10, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
@Anuj Sharma: media has an important role to play in helping people understand menace of jehadi, islamism, terrorism which they are not playing now due to many psuedo reasons.
BUT BE ASSURED, JEHAD IS ON OUR DOOR STEPS, IF NOT ALREADY INSIDE INDIA.
Someday, very soon I hope, people will wake up to this menace and use democratic means to choose their Govt who can crush Jehadi terrorism.
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Anuj Sharma on Sep 10, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
@ Tathagata
Dear Tathagat, I appreciate the optimisim you have but which media are you talking about? This media is more interested in telecatsing news about Mallika's shooting schedules or SRK's shows. When soldiers die fighting the terrorists on the borders of Porkistan and Bikharidesh we hardly see the enws abt them. Even the print media prints them in a very small box somwhere in the corner. But when it comes to Sonia's rahul's and Priyanks' visit to the constituencies the cover it live and that too for hours. Do you still believe this media? If yes I once again appreciate your optimism and i wish i had the same...
RE:RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by satya s on Sep 10, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
Here are some facts for you deluded.
1. Savarkar wrote letters of surrnder to the british in the most cringing tone. guess who he is? he is the father of hindutva. the man was so sick he regrretd that muslim women were not
raped by shivaji's army. BJP and the sangh wanted this man to be awared the bharat ratna and the president found it difficult to stomach such an idea!
2. RSS never took part in the freedom struggle.
whhat do they have to show in the swervice of the nation ? they have never excelled in the streets in a major agitation.
3. just because the sangh promotes communal prejudice/hate it does not mean they have the ability and the desire to wipe out terrorism. secular people hate the ideology of the terrorists. the sangh shares the ideology of the terrorists!
4. don't expect obc's and dalit to support a blatantly pro upper caste fraud venture. they are not fools.
RE:RE:RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Sep 10, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
@Satya is another Jehadi using a Hindu name!
Savarkar is a foremost Indian Nationalist. In any case, secularism is NOT the medicine by which jehadis can be stopped. because they are against secularism.
When you jehadis will realize the cost paid by average Muslims, it will be too late.
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
Haha.. Your name is exact opposite of what u spit off.
I am a low-caste. I dont see any point in arguments except that u belong to jahadi-Islam religion.
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by satya s on Sep 10, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
why would any decent sane person support a fraudulent and insane gang driven by famous conmen and their garbage two bit ideas?
why shud obc's and dalits accept that brahmins shud be privileged?
nowhere in the world will uncivilised gangs like rss and bjp command respect from decent people. go to any continent including antartica
RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Anuj Sharma on Sep 10, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
Be ready to face the consequences.. the ppl killed in Hyderabad blast were mainly Hindus and dont foget dear friend , next time this can be you or your family member. Then you will realise the fact that you have paid a heavy price for being a civilized person. The bomb wont discriminate between a civiliged Hindu like u or an unciviliged like me.. so wait for you turn..its not very far....
RE:RE:Unless Hindus wake up, understand they are under attack, and they destroy caste and language barrier - there is no way Jehadis can be tackled.
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Sep 10, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
Satya aka Jehadi: Who is insane? Sarat Chatterjee? huh?
It is disgusting to see so many messages posted here with utmost hatred for religion be it hindu or islam. Terrorist activities are not sole copy right of any particular religion. These poeple indulging in such extreme act are in a sense psychopaths. The are sick and need help. Jack the ripper never chose his victims from a specific sect, cast or religion. He loved killing so he did it. Yes many terrorist organisaions have their root in islamic countries. That does not necessarily mean that all muslims are terrorists. The same can be said hindus...all and sundry in this country is itching to brand narendra modi as a hindu extremist. The latest opinion poll shows that he is way ahead of congress in Gujarat. The fault doesnt lie in narendra modi. The fault lies in the way media whips up religious frenzy. However islam is a religion which thrives on extreme torture. For instance the meat they eat has to be from a slow killed animal. I wonder what is the logic behind it. You kill the animal so slow and u eat it too. Top it up you talk of peace. Every nukkad in mumbai used to have a bhai and that bhai used to be a muslim untill sena decided to crack the whip. 90% of underworld activists are muslims. It is pathetic to witness the adulation our Indian women shower on bollywood bhais..salman etc. Stop worshiping these creatures and they will fade away. We indians are very lean on them.
RE:religion& terror
by rani on Sep 10, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Suresh, see the truth for God's sake...
Terrorists are very very clear.. they do it for Allah- they are not misguided... They have a cause- they want ISlamic Caliphate on this world and they are working hard!
its sadly people like you who are misguided... Good people, with a good heart who refuse to believe what they have been showing us all along!
RE:religion& terror
by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 09:01 PM Permalink
Learn from hsitory or wait for your turn. Even if u learn, the chances for you to escape are grim.. So u better learn to perish. Good luck. All the so called hate monkers here to have many muslim friends. But they wont help us to change the attitude of their community. All they can do is as u comented, just say "bhai bhai".. Nothing more, nothing less.
May be time will change u.
I generally dont speak sensibly if I suspect a jihadi attitude. But in your words I see some sorrow seeking for a genuine solution.
Can u show a single musalman, who say, yes the problem is in our community. Instead they are more ready to point fingers at modi, RSS all of whom had responded to Jihadi-terror in jihadi-ways.
So for me a good musalman is good for nothing, he cant change his community, he can just talk. So if he so good, if I could help him out of a religous mad-killing, I may, But in now way I will help his community.
I have learned that I need to be pragmatic in my kindness and views. Individual and community differs, even in the times of riots and also in the times of peace.
I am sorry for being like a extrimist. I have no choice.
RE:religion& terror
by vasu_erfolg on Sep 10, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Hello Mindgod,
You are wrong when you say "So for me a good musalman is good for nothing, he cant change his community, he can just talk." Sorry - that is expecting too much out of our "good" musalmaan. No, you are mistaken - he won't even talk. He will silently bury his conscience and follow his mullah
RE:religion& terror
by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
Vasu,
I know very well of what u say. But there is 1% who wants to be different not just in India but also in pak. Once I happened to talk to a paki punjabi, an ardent Musalman. After talking to him, I felt so hurt, that I forced to do this, spite of some very good people like him. So I never said anything to hurt him, he himself wanted a good friendship with all religions and did not believe all non-muslims deserve to get different treatment.
In case of a riot, if it is forced on us, we need to take of atleast such souls, if we know for sure.
The main reason a good Musalman is silent is the silencing attitude of ISLAM using terror. If u leave it, death is the penalty If u critisize it, then too death is the penalty ISLAM hunts a muslim first, if a muslim and non-muslims criticizes it.
In short, in practical case of violence, we should see individuals, death some innocent also die, i mean from all sides. Atleast it is a even death, unlike only non-muslims die.
In truth, I am somehow balancing my conscience, my kindness, my friendship and heart with pragmatism and reality. It is hard and hurts but as I said no choice.
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by latief on Sep 10, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
hi I m latief and i m muslim too as said no good muslim point out to say that there is a problem within them then i should request you to attent some friday speece in mosque then might you will uderstand what is preace to us
i m not blaming to you all guys for your attitude , i was want to make people understant that this what some people wnat from us to react voilent from boht side and the haterate should always followe us so this politition can make profit out of this wethere it is BJP or Congress
nobody is fighting the holy war it is far bigger game what we can understand it is all about money
and my dear borhter if have some time go through the following video release in USA from LPAD officer on his research and u ill be stunt what you will see
RE:religion& terror
by mindgod on Sep 11, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
In any analysis and observation an average hindu dont mind any religion, because for him everything is God or whatever.
But I see an attitude to takeover everything by force in Islam. I say this from my own experience.
For example, In my state in North part which is dominated by Muslims, a muslim should not sell his land to any non-muslim. But he always buy from non-muslim. Life of non-muslim is miserable in these areas even in this so called India. So after each generation non-muslims are more than willing to sell the land to someone(Muslim) who will buy it and relocate to a peaceful area. Thus Islam builds Islamic jihadi pockets using force and new social-rules other than Indian laws. This only Islam is doing and they do it everywhere, ending in UK and denmark too..
Again even the govt schools there are like Muslim-schools. They have friday holiday when rest all have sat/sun. They have only muslims as teachers. The fate of other hindooo teachers who unfortunately teach there, i will narrate in next post with example. Thus they make sure, they use their own rules, even in a democratic country.
So it natural for any average intelligent person to understand what will happen to our generations if Muslim-jihadists are not butchered by USA/israel.
See, these might out be an issue at all for u as a person. We have no UAE to do religious things which our fore-fathers used to do from aeons. You have created so many countries right??
RE:RE:religion& terror
by mindgod on Sep 11, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Ok now I will narrate the situation my friends family have to go through in a muslim dominated dist of south-india, which is his ancestral place.
His sister got a govt job near her house as govt school teacher. She is send to 6th grade class. The very first day she understood that life wont be so simple for her.
As said before, though a govt school, it is just as an madrassa with govt funding. But as this girl is through PSC merit seat, legally they cant kick her.
Now within a week as 6th grade class teacher, she has to cry several times a day. You may wonder to know the reason. The 6th grade kids said so much that no 20 year old guy will speak off and threatened her.
They want her to get converted to Islam They want her to put a head-scarf They want her to remove her krishna-locket.
She suffered it for one week. But later on inquiry she learned that all hindooo teachers who came there left like this.
Now say Who made those 6th grade kids as those jihadis..?
Latheef, ur Mullaas, ur parents, ur mosques..?
That poor girl gave up her govt job for her life and family. Now they are planing to relocate that place and as usual only a muslim is ready to buy their home. Another victory of people like you latheef... One more infidel evicted.
Like this u muslims will hunt us until we are no more, so by supressing all my kindness and human traits, I say unless I am sure, I will in no way help a muslim and also I render my all help in destoying them. U gave me that right..
RE:RE:RE:religion& terror
by latief on Sep 10, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
and to dear all muslim brother respect to all other religion people and tribe and other nation Islamic Principle: Living Peacefully with All Nations and Peoples.
The verse mentioned below informs us that we were created and made into various nations and tribes so that we may get to know each other, and not so that we may despise and hate each other. Then we are reminded of the the fact that the best of us in God's eyes are those who are most righteous.
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things)." (Surah 49, Verse 13). This wonderful principle of Islam makes it clear that there is no single people, race, or nation that is better than others. God created us all equal. In God's eyes, the best of us are the most righteous and most kind.
God created mankind as different races and nations although He could have created us all with as one nation, with one language and one religion. However, as stated in the verse mentioned above, God created these different nations and tribes so that we get to know other each other, and not to hate each other because we are different. This tells us that we should celebrate our differences and not hate each other based on them. Islam also t
RE:Terrorism
by kraft on Sep 10, 2007 09:01 PM Permalink
A small correction, Mr.Mukherjee, the Indian Pseudo is well aware of the Jehadis. They also know that by winking at terrorist activities a large Muslim Votebank is there for them to Harvest!! "Secular" Scoundrels! People like Pandit Nehru has praised Deoband School which is a fountainhead of terror Psychology!!
Nobody can deny that we face an unprecendented threat from a specific brand of terrorism (jihad) that we see around us today.
Let me pose a hypothetical question. What do you think would a country like Iran's reaction be if they were to be the target of some similar brand of terrorism? Simple: Cleanse the country of all such potential threats - whether convicted or not.
But then you would agree that Iran isn't a democracy. What makes the task challenging for democracies and multi-cultural societies such as the US, UK or India is that we have to take measures that help us guard against such threats and at the same time ensure that we have the environment, policies, anti-terrorism laws, law enforcement agencies, etc. that are perceived to be non-discriminatory and delivering equitable justice.
We got to act against this threat while honouring the fact that Democracy and secular fabric is what we chose for our country.
RE:Tough balancing act for any democracy
by rani on Sep 10, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
exactly- terrorists know very well how to use our liberties & freedoms to hurt us only...
The best thing is to see past this.. this is an unusual war, calls for unusual methods to resovlve... Frmaework of civil liberties, equal rights, constitional rights do not and should not be applicable to Islamic terrorists.. PERIOD!
RE:Tough balancing act for any democracy
by rani on Sep 10, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
God, I wish your words come true Mr. mukherjee... I am fed up with these killings!
RE:Tough balancing act for any democracy
by wolverine on Sep 11, 2007 02:10 AM Permalink
educate ur friends, families, start ur own campaign, bring back the bjp.....
RE:Abhinav - Yaar, why you are using a Hindu Name?
by latief on Sep 10, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
hi to allmy indian brother and sister it is sad to see that still we getting pray to this political game more than half of the world blame to muslim if kind volient activity happen around the world do you y because some people control the mass media and they use it for there on buisness profit
and on other hand what people want to protate from the website
www.faithfreedom.org www.thereligionofpeace.com
let me remind them 99% of homocide are done by christan around the world and approx. 1 billion people were murdered in last century
did we ever thought why all this to usa going on in USA India Iraq and Afganistan actually mostly nobody know that because no news channel ever disclouse that to comman people
for the sake of the peace see some vidoe mention below and you will be stunt after that to know who is the realy terrorrist and y Saddam hussen was killed but not yet Osama is Alive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTltzxK0pPw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kea4DGbnCQA http://video.google.com/v ideoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=9%2F11 duration%3Along&total=2164&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3 http://video.google.com/vide oplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist&total=1144&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0< BR> this video have open thousand of eye of todays world and insha allah you to will learn something out of it
