Its a curse of the people who lost their valuable lands and livelyhood for constructing the flyovers and who were paid peanuts in returns. Hight time migration to hyderabad is stopped and instead other towns and cities in A.P are devoloped. infrastructure in Hyderabad just cannot take the heavy influx of migrants
RE:curse of the people who have lost their lands to flyovers
by ramanareddy on Sep 10, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
this is very irresponsible statement,if any such thing has happened you can fight with government,think about people who are facing problems with traffic
RE:curse of the people who have lost their lands to flyovers
by Kabeer on Sep 10, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
Shame on you for such a cruel and an irresponsible remark!
RE:Know what Hyderabad needs???????
by Indian on Sep 10, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
finding root cuase is just matter of 2 min as Gamen india is Cong govt puppy for money miniting and last 2 days several reports about this benomy company quality issues and this projects is delayed more than a year as such and Gamen is backed by one of the CM faimly members...just go through last 2 days AP news papers
RE:Know what Hyderabad needs???????
by amaresh on Sep 09, 2007 11:57 PM Permalink
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I FEEL TOO... THESE THINGS NEVER HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS AROUND..MAN WITH DREAMS AND BRAINS...BEING A HYDERABADI(in pune from 3-4yrs) MYSELF I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE HE HAS MADE...WHEN R THE ELECTIONS NEXT???????
RE:Know what Hyderabad needs???????
by Vikris23 on Sep 09, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
Guys let AP people decide who should be the CM of the state. You people don't even know what is the reason for the collapse.
who takes responsibility for the happened thing last week only we had the twin bomb blasts and the bloody govt washed its hands showing some bangladeshis behind it and now the time has came for the govt to raise their hnd for the latest happenings
I stayed in hyderabad for one year and often passed this place...this flyover's construction has been going on since the time immemorial......and there is always a traffic jam at this place because of its construction. Given that Panjagutta is such a busy place...its construction should have been over long ago...i guess this tragedy was waitin to happen...this calls for severe introspection...but i guess nobody has time and will-power to do it and punish the culprits.
RE:Slow and low quality work
by Cynic on Sep 09, 2007 11:52 PM Permalink
Slow work is traditionally associated with better quality of work. How have you inferred low from slow....before the collapse?
RE:RE:Slow and low quality work
by kocharwar NagaRaju on Sep 10, 2007 12:04 AM Permalink
do not blame system. Everyone is the part of system. killing one w'd not be the end of the sins...think with a cool mind, will you not agree! the system is always fine, it depends on the people who are part of it. How they are making it appear.
RE:Slow and low quality work
by pavan agrawal on Sep 10, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Go and see our neighbour Pakistan....Military has ruled there for 37 years...see other countries under military rule..they are in peril..you might reconsider your view. It's not democracy but lack of its implementation and decrease in morla valus in society combined with 'chalta hai' culture which is responsible for this situation..but sure we should consider hanging all the currupt people involved
This is scary...the same government and administration is building multiple irrigation projects spending about 1 LAKH CRORE OF RUPEES....God forbid....but if this are of this quality ......few millions of life at stake......
RE:How about the huge irrigation dams....god forbid
by Indian on Sep 09, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
very honnestly no one has clue with reg to quality of any thing happening in AP in Cong Govt time .......one of the irrigiation dam is washed out just for heavy rain in AP recently god know what will happen in future...you name it any project...almost holding by YSR family...indu projects is getting lands at 1 Cr per acre in the areas like 15Cr per acre...As all AP know Indu projects is company from YSR son YS Jagan....Indu projects is getting the profit of 400 Cr with constrauction near to KPHB / hitechcity railway station....overall entire state is looted by Congress govt
RE:How about the huge irrigation dams....god forbid
by BHASKARAN GANESHAN on Sep 09, 2007 11:54 PM Permalink
Where is the water, that gets stored and breaks when all hell breaks loose? There isn't much water, but there was not much space either on the panjagutta road, poorly conceptualised and executed.
RE:RE:How about the huge irrigation dams....god forbid
by Indian on Sep 10, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
there is huge 24 H / 365 days corrption drain in this Govt other than that not much water in panajagutta today...this bridge under constrction was collapsed due to Corruption fluds but not due to rains or heavy rains
Only a moronic organization like HUDA could plan such disasters. In Hyderbad there is a saying called "thook polish" (where one polishes his shoes using spittle), and all the bridges which were planned or constructed there were nothing but thook polish.
(01) I hate saying this - the archaic Begumpet flyover could be the next one. The structure is made of concrete, but if you stood on the bridge at any given time, it off late swings like a suspension bridge. I'm in the construction industry where it is common knowledge that concrete cannot handle much tensile stresses. This will result in a sudden disaster.
(02) All the new flyovers that are being built are of extremely poor quality in construction, and no surprises if this happens elsewhere.
(03) Not even one of the new flyovers is built straight. Good examples are the Sanathnagar and Moula Ali flyover. The roads change shape frequently (the cracks change so often), and the only thing they do to maintain is patch it up with tar when what needs to be examined is the structure itself.
Finally, not one of the bridges being built in Hyderabad take into consideration future volume of traffic - it looks like they won't even withstand extra traffic that builds up over one year. The proof lies in the fact that traffic is always stalled on flyovers - whereas flyovers were designed to ease traffic! This chalta hai attitude is a sureshot recipe for future disasters. The guilty and the corrupt should be severely taken to tas
RE:One More From Me
by Kabeer on Sep 10, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
I pray that you are wrong but afraid you are true! I travelled over the Begumpet flyover two weeks ago and was horrified at the vibrations it produce even with no heavy vehicle on it. I don't know if it is normal and a way of releasing the absorbent energy. I was horrified at the neglect of the administration on that flyover! For extension purpose they removed the railing and put up some tinsheets as boundary markings when the part of the flyover was exactly above the railway tracks! If an unattentive driver of the vehicle hits the tinwork the vehicle will exactly fall on the railway tracks and even worse before an approaching train. I live in Bombay and I have seen repair works on the flyovers but never ever such as this!
More importantly, I can't understand how the traffic was eased with the construction of the flyovers? If one notices, it just replaced the existing road space below it while the road below it is supported by pillars and greenery! It just elevated the below road space to above, that's all! In no other city of this size in this country do you see flyovers of this magnitude!
Worse, there are flyovers where you don't need one i.e. on the open road to sec'bad from Begumpet and none where you need some at Ameerpet jn Punjagutta Jn, Lakdikapul Jn.
I fail to understand who the town planners were! Another astonishing and brazen act is the approach road to the CM's new house is a special entry only for himself. Only he is allowed to take a right turn!
RE:THE SOLUTION TO INDIA'S PROBLEMS
by Sreenivas Sama on Sep 09, 2007 11:52 PM Permalink
Kill all the goonda, factionist politicians and briing military rule for another year in Andhra Pradesh, to get rid of the goons who are ruling the state of Andhra Pradesh.
There is not much to say except that the congress party is now busy with the murder that the congress party president's son committed today. There is no one from congress who cares for this except the PM. Read the news carefully. The truth is there.
This is totally a mismanaged project by the contractors. The conventional method of construction the bridge is
Foundations and pillars are constructed before and cured for months. Only after curing is confirmed then the girders are loaded on to the pillars but in this case girders and pliers are loaded before pillars are cured. Also the loose soil of hyderabad demands foundations to be wide and deep.
Now because of the rain the pillars are tilted to a side and the whole girder and pliers fell apart causing more damage. Has it been the girders and plies are loaded after curing. we could have avoided this mishap
RE:Speed of construction By GAMMON is responsible
by Cynic on Sep 09, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
You want us to do the killings? Or are you doing something about it? Or is it just TP typing out from the comforts of your home?
