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islam needs some reformers
by manu puri on Sep 04, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

as most of the terrorist activities all over the world are carried out by muslims but the blame cant be given to islam but the the people who run this terrorist ideology.as in india there has been a glorious tradition of SUFI ISLAM ( also known as INDIAN ISLAM) which is very liberal towards non muslims.so peole should come forward from muslim community for its revival

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by imran patel on Sep 04, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
People need to learn and follow Islam ON THEIR OWN.

We see these crimes in the name of ISLAM, because people are following some IMAM/MULLAH blindly. That is very -Un-Islamic.

We need reform in the way people learn ISLAM.

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by ramesh pawar on Sep 04, 2007 08:20 PM  Permalink
i dont know about muslims but surely hindus will think about it and try to reform themselves...some may also convert ..

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RE:RE:islam needs some reformers
by akshay gupta on Sep 04, 2007 10:00 PM  Permalink
Hindus are to blame also b'coz there is no unity in our hindus like the muslims. This is indeed one problem that we hindus have. I really feel bad about it

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by on Sep 04, 2007 08:25 PM  Permalink
get a life....

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by manu puri on Sep 04, 2007 08:34 PM  Permalink
hey man u might have heard the names of saint kabeerdas ji,saint namdev ji,saint nanak dev ji and many more ,
they openly condemed the wrong things happening in the name of hindu religion.but still they r very much respected by hindus .but there is some problem with muslims ,if any one talks about reform in muslim society, the mullas order fatwas against them and huge prize is set to kill them.so problem is not with hindus

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by Pratyush Gaur on Sep 04, 2007 07:45 PM  Permalink
@manu

i want to tell you something that will wide open your eyes forever. it is fascinating but true.

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by ramesh pawar on Sep 04, 2007 08:03 PM  Permalink
MANU PURI ...

its not ISLAM but hinduism and christianity which needs to reform ....

they have to follow the true culture and tradition to eradicate the filth filled in them ..

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RE:RE:islam needs some reformers
by imran patel on Sep 04, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
Nope...Reform is needed in how people interpret and follow the religion.

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by Arvind Ramaswamy on Sep 04, 2007 08:27 PM  Permalink
@"ramesh pawar" : dude if you're a muslim then why don't you proudly wear your muslim name? why're you using a pseudonym?

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RE:RE:islam needs some reformers
by manu puri on Sep 04, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
there is no shame being a hindu who is devout in the lotus feet of almighty but doesnt believe in bad things like caste system,racism
and who respects all religions equally

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RE:islam needs some reformers
by akshay gupta on Sep 04, 2007 09:59 PM  Permalink
Ramesh pawar has given a fake identity. This man is acctually a bi-product of illegitimate saudis

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Terrorist are only Suspect from U.S.A to INDIA, Still Osama is Suspect , Nice jok
by Fact on Sep 04, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Terrorist are only Suspect from U.S.A to INDIA

In Mumbai Blast hundred innocents have been arrested due to Suspect
In MaleyGoan Blast hundred innocents have been arrested due to Suspect
In Hyderabad 45 innocents have been arrested due to Suspect, if you know the master minded why you are arresting other innocent.

Security agencies cant produce any prove, but after some time, they will conduct narcotic test and declare that xyz have admit to involved in blast during the narcotic test.

This is the final result as we have seen in Mumbai blast.
I would like to request India Govt please conduct narcotic test of our security agencies and make it live or when narcotic test will conduct the Suspect Terrorist plase also make it live.

Thanks


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RE:Terrorist are only Suspect from U.S.A to INDIA, Still Osama is Suspect , Nice jok
by bluebie on Sep 04, 2007 07:43 PM  Permalink
hahahahahaha, amazing dude...

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RE:Terrorist are only Suspect from U.S.A to INDIA, Still Osama is Suspect , Nice jok
by Pratyush Gaur on Sep 04, 2007 07:50 PM  Permalink
dude this is wat happens when all the unexpected muslim come out to be terrorists. few days back the imam of haj house in mumbai was found to be indulged in terrorist activities. so try to stop breading terrorists from your side so that others can trust you.

btw do you mean to say that osama is not a terrorist????

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RE:Imran, you are stooping low as days goes by
by imran patel on Sep 04, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink
Thats the problem with you Bhuddha,
If you see something wrong in the MUSLIM community, why can't you see the same in other communities...

Did I ever say that there are NO Muslim Gettos ?
There are Muslim, Dalit, Gujju, Tamil, Andra gettos ?

The point of my article is to identify the problem and eliminate it.

GROW UP DUDE !!!

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RE:Imran, you are stooping low as days goes by
by vishal jagasia on Sep 04, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
hey bhuddha,
dont talk abt faithfreedom site. This site has enough information to fool people like you and millions of others against islam. By your opinion,it is enough to know that you lack understanding. I've gone through this site and easily understood the motive of this site developers. They just want to create hatred and anguish in the hearts & minds of people against muslims. I know all the religions so nobody can fool me in the name of religion. Its only people like you who first of all do not know the truth still blabber. So investigate the truth of life and then talk.

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RE:Imran, you are stooping low as days goes by
by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
buddha

as i earlier said once --u lose ur rationality first to become muslims ...

why go to US --see all the ghetto's in INDIA --u will get to know the truth ...

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the REAL TRUTH
by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 07:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

hi,

whatever we try and we may succeed in killing many such wanted terrorists but this WAR will never END ..

the reason being these terrorists are just product of an violent ideology called ISLAM .....as long as the ideology stays so will the millions of osama's and Abu Hamza .....


we keep killing and the IDEOLOGY keeps producing these figures ingrained in hatred and offers all kinds of justification for their gory activities....

as long as this ISLAM IDEOLOGY survives this war will never END ...

fight the IDEOLOGY but not against its BY-Products



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RE:the REAL TRUTH
by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink
even virus grows much faster !!!!! so ?????

that's the exact reason why the WORLD is drifting towards annihilation ...

we see quality not quantity

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RE:the REAL TRUTH
by Bala Saaheb on Sep 04, 2007 07:35 PM  Permalink
cupid! please get well soon.


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RE:the REAL TRUTH
by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink
refute my points first

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tough actions
by G on Sep 04, 2007 07:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Those who involve in destructive politics should be given tough punishment. I think, it is better to ask some human rights groups on their opinion on how to deal with such guys. Otherwise, while on tough actions, these people will come with some of their lousy claims.

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RE:tough actions
by Pratyush Gaur on Sep 04, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
dude you are insane.

let me tell you that human right activists are the biggest violators of human rights.

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Nothing will happen
by Raj on Sep 04, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Nothing will happen to most wanted terrorists because they know that india is a weak country a country which doesnt care for its people no matter how many explosions and killings nothing is going to happen.
Where are the terrorists who executed and masterminded akshardham temple blasts, varanasi blasts, delhi blasts, mumbai local train blasts and other blasts (Hyderabad mosque,bangalore IISC) in different parts of country. After every blasts media covers the news for few days then every one forgets about these and the real terrorists are never captured. This time also the same thing will happen we will forget about this and so does our politicians and police.
A country like india cant even pressurise bangladesh to capture the terrorists who kill innocent people and hide in bangladesh. Our politicians will only bark after every blast saying that "india will stand strong and will not be cowed down by terror attacks". this dialougue these shameless politicians are repeating for last so many years and will repeat the same thing again and again.


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RE:Nothing will happen
by sunil bangera on Sep 04, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink
Thank you..!

and u r an another weak citizen who loves critize it own Country in public formus while munching cookies...!

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RE:Nothing will happen
by Manish Chandra Ghildiyal on Sep 04, 2007 07:31 PM  Permalink
can u spell out what a common man like Raj is supposed to do..u muppet...

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RE:RE:Nothing will happen
by jagadeesh kannan on Sep 04, 2007 07:37 PM  Permalink
I think comments givenby Raj is genuine.. All Indians must accept it as this is what happening in India. Constructive criticism is always acceptable.

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RE:Nothing will happen
by Jay Badri on Sep 04, 2007 09:09 PM  Permalink
Dont lose heart buddy.In 90's when chandrashekar was PM India foreign exchange dropped to 4 billion dollars.Now we have reserves of 400 billion dollars.We made lot of progress,We brought punjab back into our fold.Kashmir is under our control.we brought kargil back,we dont need US funding for defence unlike pakistan.If worst come to worst,if all Indians started walking across pakistan will be crushed non-violently.This is rotten jealous brother just trying to poke us,he will get his medicine.Whole world has wakened up to what pakistan is.Now pakistan is synonymous with EVIL,now the whole world KNOWS,even biggest brother USA.They will hunt down these idiots,now we have support from US we can win this war.They r the only super power standing,they plan and they execute,nobody can stop them.U can see the guts of US president,he didn't mince his words,he will not care for the world,u need a tough man to bring them down.after 911 there was not even a single incident in US.India is 2 nd only after IRAQ for innocent lives lost in terrorism.we have a lot more to develop.we r handicapped by corrupt piliticians like YSR,saying he can't stop terrorists from killing people in hyderbad.Bush vowed to kill the terrorists wherever they r hiding,he conquered 2 countries for 911.they profile muslims,they track every moment,they take u to guatenmelo,though some injustice majority favours muslim profiling in US.they r splashing 2 muslim guys photos all over CNN yesterday just on suspicion..

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Rubbish
by Sudha Santhanam on Sep 04, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India wants no one in its custody!! We are too frightened to take action lest we harm our vote banks. If we cannot take a decision on the man who attacked Parliament, you think India will ever do anything? This is just some garbage thrown at us by the politicians to divert attention from them. Why are we blaming Pakistan and Bangla Desh? Can we look inwards?

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RE:Rubbish
by imran patel on Sep 04, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
And once we have him in Custody, someone will highjack a plane...We will then pay ransom and release him.

This is purely political and also un-professional.
Why would you release all this information in the middle of an investigation?

We we are relying on these COPS to protect us from the terrorist then we have already LOST.

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RE:Rubbish
by Satyam Mishra on Sep 04, 2007 07:42 PM  Permalink
well they can maintain secrecy only to a certain extent. If they keep mum for long someone mite say that the police is sleeping.

we have made enough mockery of ourselves by blaming pakistan for the mess. we are ourselves to be blamed. we are not taking care of our national interests and politicians are making merry.

we need to wake up and take the system to correction.

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RE:One Face of NRIs
by RedfiffIsAHypocrite on Sep 04, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink
u probably never left ur madarasa in pakistan....

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RE:One Face of NRIs
by Vinay Dhamija on Sep 04, 2007 08:23 PM  Permalink
Hi Imran,

Just wanted to appreciate your post as I have myself asked that question uncountable number of times.

Thanks,

V

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WARING TO ALL MEMBERS
by moderator on Sep 04, 2007 07:18 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

AS A MODERATOR I HERBY WARN ALL THOSE WRITING ABUSIVE MESSAGES AND FANNING COMMUNAL HATRED THAT THEIR IP ADRESSES WILL BE TRACED AND THEY WILL BE BOOKED FOR INCITING ONE COMMUNITY AGAINST OTHER.

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RE:WARING TO ALL MEMBERS
by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink
yeah right ,trace my id and come and lick my boot ..idiot ......

discussion essentially means hearing the both side of coin ....there are millions of web site that write utter filth abt HINDUISM ....so when was the last time one such site was closed .......

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RE:WARING TO ALL MEMBERS
by bvvp prasad on Sep 04, 2007 07:32 PM  Permalink
Good. Before that cancell their login Id. blacklist the IP address

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RE:WARING TO ALL MEMBERS
by rohit pitre on Sep 04, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink
ya really ha:)

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change of news heading
by mattaparty rao on Sep 04, 2007 07:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It should be "the man on the hit list " what india is going to do after capturing him ? just feed him and chat with him ??? there will be another plane hijack ....pakistan will do negotiation...india will release this guy (may be at a cost of some innocent travelers)....and he will be safely escorted to pakistan...where he will form another jihadi group....pakistan will act innocent in front of world... abu hamza will become a holy person (neighbors envy owners pride)....ultimate result more blasts more deaths more blames and wide spreading hatred with this guys religion

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RE:change of news heading
by Vinay Prakash on Sep 04, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
True. Wached this movie 'Munich' a few days back. Our intelligence should try and wipe a few out

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