Think why are Muslims hated. This is how you repay gratitude after allowing you to stay in India after partition. Can Pakistan have a Hindu President. How many Hindus are left in Pak - if not killed/tortured/converted. Ungrateful people - is what Hindus think abt you. No to Vande Mataram - not mingling with the main stream , always complaining. Be a true muslim like Abdul Kalam and A.R.Rehman - Hindus will love you - do not fall into the trap of secularwadi politician.
RE:Muslims Think
by madakari on Sep 04, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
Excellent message for the people who still think that they belongs to Pak by staying and enjoying every right in mothor India. Oh god pl give a look at these Ill thinking people!!!!
RE:Muslims Think
by on Sep 04, 2007 05:03 PM Permalink
Why do I have prove my Indianess, I am an Indian as any other, irrespective of religion or creed. Why do these so called patriots, given a small chance accuse of non-indianess, what right does anyone to point a finger at me, generalizations is the bane of India. Why to we have to keep accusing....
As for vande matatam, I do not have much idea except that it conflicts with basic muslim beleif of a monothesim...
If on ther hand, why not we include monothesim in national anthem.. and include there is no god but Allah....will it be acceptable? Where will all this lead too?
Live and let live. Crime and criminals are not be tolerated. Lets clean our civic act and not give a chance for antisocial elements.
RE:Muslims Think
by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
Dear on.........instead of telling there is no god but Allah, why can't we say just "there is no god" as there is no conclusive proof for the existence of god? This will put an end to all fights in the name of religions and gods.
RE:Muslims Think
by on Sep 04, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
JGN, it will not. Atheism is a hollow concept - the innate nature of man, the fitrah of mankind is such that he is created. HE DIDNT EVOLVE. We may differ on many things aspects of worship etc..but no religion except for very few men say no god exists...
RE:Muslims Think
by on Sep 04, 2007 05:24 PM Permalink
The conclusive evidence of Creator is his creation. If you see a toyota car, u know the manufacturer, you will not say it is evolved from bicycle, similarly observe the creation,you will find the creator....
Then why all these killings in name of creator. The creator gave free will to man and created good and evil...
RE:RE:Muslims Think
by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:50 PM Permalink
Astronomers estimate that the earth, like other solar planets, was formed over four billion years ago by the agglomeration of particles of matter in space. Later when the temperature and atmospheric conditions of the earth were suitable, life originated on it as a result of chemical activity. Molecules of livable organic matter were formed from methane, ammonia and water of the primitive atmosphere of the earth under the influence of solar and volcanic energies. (Simulating the conditions of the primitive atmosphere of the earth, the Nobel Laureate Dr. Har Gobind Khorana and Dr. Cyril Ponnamperuma had successfully produced molecules in their laboratories). These molecules in due course developed the property of replicating and producing energy through slow oxidation called respiration. It is this type of energy produced by respiring organic matter that we call life. Livable matter becomes a living body when it respires and produces vital energy (life).
The molecules of organic matter formed on the primitive earth produced unicellular organisms in due course, which as a result of millions of years of evolution gave rise to the present flora and fauna.
Harlow Shapply, the famous astrophysicist, says here can be millions of planets in space where life is possible. Some of these planets there may organisms much more intelligent and much more evolved than man.
RE:Muslims Think
by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
by on......pl read the book The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks, available freely on www.gutenberg.org and understand for yourself.
No power can create a fully grown up individual out of dust (or thin air). Life on earth originated from unicellular organisms.
RE:RE:Muslims Think
by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
The Buddhists do not believe in any creator nor in souls or life after birth. The teachings of Buddha are rational and nearer to scientific truth.
Btw, even after 1400 years, those who fought along side The Prophet still lies buried. They have not received any of those rewards promised in The Koran! How long do they have to wait? Now, don't tell me that The Prophet has said, I am only a warner, be prepared, etc as I have also read The Koran.
RE:Muslims Think
by anzar shennatt on Sep 04, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
pakistan is a muslim nationwhile india is a secular nation.Muslims has every right like any other belonging to anyother religion(hindu,christian etc).First change ur belief that india is a hindu nation and other religion people live on ur mercy. Who said muslims r fully secure in india .look at wat happened after 89 1.babri masjid demolished .People behind it left free some became ministers Riots followed in mumbai and other parts Bombblast in bombay as retaliation(no newtons third law as it is muslims) 2.Muslims killed in gujarat after godhra train issue Forensics proved that fire started inside the train. The theory of people throwing inflammable liquid from outside ruled out.
Modi appllied newton's third law to justify rioters!!.
Sreekrishna commission report still in cold storage .No action against gujarat riot criminals IF some people do crime in the name of religion then religion is not to blame. IF some people do crime and escape in the name of religion then also religion(hinduism) is not to blame . I am a secular person and have lot of friends in other religions.I dont enquire abt other's religion .
RE:Muslims Think
by Malaya on Sep 04, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
Hindus are not secure in secular india 1. Godhra massacre 2. Kashmiri Pandits killed and forced to live as refugee in thwir own country 3. millions of balgladeshi lived in india and create problem for hindus
RE:Muslims Think
by kalyan ram on Sep 04, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
whatever the minority hindus left in pakistan continue to suffer......pakistani muslim youths carry away young hindu girls and force them to marry them.....thats why hindus in pakistan are fast becoming extinct.....can that happen to muslims in india?....they have to thank allah to be born in india....
RE:Muslims Think
by Zabardast on Sep 04, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
Yes u r right . We all feel sorry for muslims.Their religion has been hijacked by rational clerics and terrorists.
RE:Our beloved PM Mr Manmohan Singh will
by Raghavendra Gowda on Sep 04, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
I request Hon. Chief Minister of Karnataka to offer him a governament job before his AP counter part offers job to Bilal
RE:Our beloved PM Mr Manmohan Singh will
by Dhurandhar Bhatwadekar on Sep 04, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
It wont be long before Sheela Bhat & Syed Firdaus Ashraf of Rediff will start writing artciels on Bilal and his innocence. Or some rubbish like how he loves cooking for gardening or some such shit. It wont be long before Majid Menon, Maneshindes of the world will book new cars and Flats anticipating this case. Who cares about common people ?
we dont want jihad,we dont want osama,we dont want bombs by beessmilla on Sep 04, 2007 01:53 PM | Hide replies
dear muslim brothers
It is high time we condemn these terrorist attacks very strictly.
we are 20 crore muslims in india.india gives us food. Osama bin laden or saudi arabia does not give us food. pakistan can give us bombs but can not give us food. economy of pakistan and afganistan is a true reflextion of islamic terrorists governance
muslims of india are able to eat food three times because of india. let us respect mother india and our hindu brothers once again
RE:RE:we muslims are indian first - we dont want dawood,osama,sharbuddins
by abdullah arif nayazi on Sep 04, 2007 04:56 PM Permalink
I totally agree that we muslim indians should be proud of of being indian and we definitely our motherland.... But this guy who says that india gives us food no its Allah who give us food and to every one else on this planet . Please do your basics correct . We can die for india , we can do any thing what any other citizen from any other religon can do for india... but thats for INDIA not for individuals... Yes AR Rehman and AJ Abdula KALAM are not being regarded as high because they are muslims who are higly educated and wonderful but they are because they are great ... But when you guys can embrace muslims kid who is going to madrsa with a takhti in his hand then that definitely can make change .. 3% ot total ARMY in india are muslims ... But when it comes to MRTYDROM its 11% of total INDIAN ARMY .. What more you guys want .. you only see people who are 1% bad which is in every society and ignoring 99% who have more love for india rather than u guys .. So shut the **** and dont teach us what to do what not to do ...
RE:we muslims are indian first - we dont want dawood,osama,sharbuddins
by kapil on Sep 04, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
i doubt your identity...haven't seen any Muslims condemn such acts in whole life...
RE:we muslims are indian first - we dont want dawood,osama,sharbuddins
by navin kumar on Sep 04, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
yeah i don think he is a mulsim!
i guess islam and christains are the two religions that are introduced for demolistion... these 2 religions fight each other for their survival at the end..
As per Hinduism, the one who has realised Brahman - Self is Brahmin. Brahmin is not by birth. All casts were same there was only division of Labour. Castism was introduced by British to divide Hindus as was done by Moghuls continued by Secularists and Leftists - who are misquoting History to blame Hindus. Adi Shankaracharya was given realisation by a Chandala - this is true Hinduism. Vande Mataram
RE:Who is a Brahmin
by kalyan ram on Sep 04, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
in ancient india castesim means today's so called professionalism not racism.....kshatriya(warrior tribe), brahmins(preists and scholars), vysya(traders) etc....were given specific work for each section of the society and follow them generations....this is called professionalism not racism.....coming to the dalist or adivasis they refused to come in to mainstream and decided to be in forests, hence in my view they were outcasted because they dont do any specific work in society unlike kshatriya and brahmins....and also i think there must have been a great war in ancient india between hindu caste society and adivasis or dalits , and caste people could have won that war and hence outcasted adivasis...you can attribute that great war to war between devathas and rakshasas in our ancient texts.......this is merely my personal view....right or wrong you decide you decider.....
