RE:god,...
by TrueWorrior on Sep 01, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
Problem with our govt is we dont have any proper records!! even if we have we dont care a damm we only get up when such incidents happen!!! there should be a proper department to handle this situation of illegal immigrants as the other developed countries have.
Its not any religion, its not any group of people, its pakistan who is making our country unstable and the world too!!! Pakistani govt used karshmiri people for voilence in kashmir they suceed there now they are eyeing on different part of the india.. and they gathering innocent people in the name of religion!!! islam never ask to kill innocent people. they are definately not fighting for religion they are being used for sake of other benefits..
I strongly appeal all my muslim brothers to be away from such organisation who brain wash you. do u think how many inncents are dieing?? it is not our religion they are just using you please understand!!! if you want to be a good muslim pray 5 times a day, keep fasting, do good deeds, perform Haj, & give charity. be a good example to your society and make your family proud of you.. love ur country..
RE:Pakistan is a Problem to the World!!!
by chinna rao on Sep 01, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
Pakis know it well that Indians are being led by hizras so anything u do here u can get away with it. 1 lawyer will rescue u or politician for his votes. Bottom line is we are sending wrong signals to other countries by letting others come and reduce our population. We are a weak country. When Vajpayee sent troops to border all S**t oozed out. We cant bite nor can we deliver. Shame on our politics.
RE:Pakistan is a Problem to the World!!!
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
In past a gigantic leader like Gandhiji failed in pleading them do you think you have a chance?
RE:Pakistan is a Problem to the World!!!
by VSR on Sep 01, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Part of the problem is because of original gandhi-nehru and later the problems are because of gandhi-nehru family. If things would have been allowed as per Sardar Patel way, there would not have been Pakistan today. He would joined back Pakistan like he did for Hyderabad throwing Nizams out of power. What we need is not hizras. We need people like Fld Marshel Maneckshaw, Major Sunderjee, Major Abbas Ali, Major Karan Singh and the likes. Few majors will keep every body on toes and straighten the system.
RE:Which is the major issue extremists or the Nuclear Treaty???
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
For govt main isssue is reservations for Muslims. For us the main issue is survival.
RE:Which is the major issue extremists or the Nuclear Treaty???
by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 02, 2007 03:16 AM Permalink
Small correction. For govt main issue is not reservation for Muslims but votes.
Dear Friends, Police's claim is very much doubtful because generally whenever there is blast some militant organisation take responsibility of it. It is matter of pride for them. Till date nobody has taken the responsibilty and Bilal may be scapegoat. Ansal Plaza case is eye opener for us in which some people were brought and Police simply shot them at Parking lot and showed to world that it was act by militant and in encounter these militant were killed. Assistant Comminssioner of Police confirmed this privatly just few days after the encounter. There are chances that somebody might have felt angry with the system and carried out these blasts not belonging to any organisation like Glasow attempt. Anyway Police has to blame somebody otherwise their political bosses will screw them and very soft targets are always muslims virtually or really? staying at Pakistan. Also political people are happy to polarise minority majaority division with such incidents. In India hatred towards muslim community is treated as a Patriotism and many patriots are here only. Police has just added fuel in the fire by stating above statement.
RE:Doubtful!!
by anand on Sep 01, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
The twin blasts cannot be the act of a single person who is not satisfied with the system. This has to be a planned one because the timing of the two blasts at two different locations. I agree with you regarding the Police's claim of blaming a person who is in Pakistan.
RE:Doubtful!!
by Mani on Sep 01, 2007 06:12 PM Permalink
"somebody might have felt angry with the system and carried out these blasts..." somebody this sensitive will target system directly. Why kill so many innocent people. With such acts investments to his own city will affected, business will go down, tourist will go away. So practically now he is more wrong then this system.
RE:Doubtful!!
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
Millitant Organisations taking responsibility is not a law. It was a mere common practice. Since last few years terrorists are not taking responsibility, even if they will take responsibility they will take in the name of some newly formed unknown organistation just to confuse the investigators. So no announcement of responsibility sofar is nothing strange.
First of all , *There was the IRISH NATIONAL ARMY putting up bombs all over the place in Britain and all over europe after that even in america, because differnce in faith and also over the independent government, Well all these were/are called terrorist acts but their faith is never questioned, fine. *There is the terrorist movement from the breakaway faction in spain over their independence, committing serious violence acts and bombing called as terrorist activities but not a question over their faith, fine *There are so many faction in france , estonia, russia,lithuania, bosnia, serbia,croatia,albania,Italy,Ukraine, estonia, latvia,Sri lanka, czech republic,turkey etc.........terrrorist acts being committed without any repent or resolving till date and even in india in the northeast sector full of insecure people since independence i.e 60 years, all the terrorist activities commitied by many communities in INDIA , well even the naxal wave which has engulfed almost half the country and still spreading belong to many communities including the faith hinduism, talk about srilanka and tamils are there committing all terrorist activities, they are also hindus fine.But not a question over their faith, fine. *In all the above circumstances there is element of each and every religion being suprressed so these people are committing terrorist acts without any question over the faith ,In the same way in middle east there is the Israel taking over the land of palesine
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-2
THIS THE WHOLE World knows, but the West supports ISRAEL and here no one is doing justice so in this region they resent by commiting these henious crime, but here their faith is questioned, not RIGHT. *In india there is kashmir problem , a regional one to that.I KNOW kashmir is our INDIAN and will be forever but that is being disputed by pakistan our enemy neighbour which is causing all the problem, But again here the faith is being questioned , not RIGHT. Why this is between nationals not religion then why all you rediff readers posting messges unknowllingly trying to malign the peaceful religon of ISLAM.These acts are committed by foreign nationals.Dont be so narrowminded. *In the world over this is a a problem because all the other faith are regional but ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY IS GLOBAL , so this being maligned which is wrong.First be right and then expect right.
*I condemn all kinds of terrorist and each and every muslim condemns this and doesnot support any violence acts. Anyone committing any violence in our country is our enemy no matter what religion he belongs. *Please stop blaming any religion but do blame your own mind with that fixation.We should not support any one committing any violence acts . All the guys commiting violence acts will go to hell because only innocent lives are lost which is a sin, There is no pardon for sinning innocents.hope these narrow minded people understand.
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
Even longer essays than these are not enough to justify Islamic Jehadi terrorism in India. True face of terrorist sympathizers is exposed.
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
Well there should be laws to book and create acts also for creating communal differences. Anyone caught should not get any legal help. People who are having knowledge have a responsibility to give positive views and not create disturbance. The acts committed recently are foreigners , everyone knows , but why malign one INNOCENT COMMUNITY. Shame on the negative knowledge guys like you have possessed.
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
Absolutely agree about the law against communal violence and there also should be Laws like POTA for terrorists.
None of the recent attacked proved to be carried out be only foreigners, almost all had local support, so stop being ignorant.
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
Not only islamic leaders but also all the people following islam are against henious acts like terrorism, and also all kinds of terrorism.Terrorism is a parasite.Leave any islamic leader brother if islam would have been against these mentioned countries , there would have been a third world war.ISLAM prohobits killing anyone , that too innocent people. all the killers will go to hell. In any religion if anyone distorts the religion or goes against they issue decree all of them practice while muslims issue fatwa , since any decree is publicised they become centre of attraction. Jihad is nothing but a term used to fight suppression.As the palesine land is snatched and also america has invaded iraq without any reason , they have issued it .Jihad is just a term, all religion and nationalities issue in their own term . Dont you hear day in and day out Political leaders giving orders to cleanse areas of other communities everywhere in INDIA, People told to unite in name of caste to vote some wrong man.People told to cleanse their areas in the name of caste, religion being practiced in many parts of india. In UP, BIHAR , ORISSA, ASSAM and almost all north easten staes except bengal. Balthackeray also told openly even video also come out in sri krishma report and they are available ,He told to cleanse muslim and told all of them to be united to do that. He is still free because political and goonda pressure. There are many political leaders issuing directives in non political reas
How much is sentence for a convict in explosive act? Because it happens only in India that terror convicts/suspects are charged with meagre laws like explosive act etc.
RE:POTA
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
Well there should be laws to book and create acts also for creating communal differences. Anyone caught should not get any legal help. People who are having knowledge have a responsibility to give positive views and not create disturbance. The acts committed recently are foreigners , everyone knows , but why malign one INNOCENT COMMUNITY. Shame on the negative knowledge guys like you have possessed.
RE:POTA
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
Come on man , daily there are bomb blasts in india from different communities , rapes, ethnic cleansing among hindu communities as well , lot of religions involved in india, naxal movement is one senseless movement controlled by whom.NAXAL MOVEMENT HAS SPREAD TO ALMOST HALF OF INDIA I.E HALF OF INDIAN DISTRICTS. Who suppports and runs the naxal movement. But no one said all hindus are terrorists.The whole of north east is sensitive spot with sporadic things happening every hour. The so called blasts triggered recently in Hyderabad is by foreign national elements , they are having their grouse against indian government, You should say about their nationlity but not the religion as peaceful as ours in INDIA. There is unrest among gulf countries because of israel and involvement of USA , the whole world knows. Once upon a time all indians also used to kill britishers so the britishers termed them as terrorists but if fact they were freedom fighters. Israel has occupied palestine, US has attacked & occupied iraq&afghanistan illegally, So the people are resenting, its normal. This can be associated by any community. Anyway when can you understand. LOW IQ Its simple.
RE:RE:POTA
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:23 PM Permalink
Do you know something more than " copy and Paste" ? If yes then write some thing new. BTW I dont understand if Indian Muslims are somuch pained by incidents at Iraq or palestine, why are they killing Indians? If they have guts they should go to Pakistan and attack the stationed US army there.
RE:POTA
by VSR on Sep 01, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
Keep writing man. Nothing will change. After few hours this will be taken off. Stopping bombs in India can happen only after India eliminating Pakistan from the world map. Do you agree, as a true Indian?
RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
Can you enlighten us, what has to do Indian public with Israel or US? Or can you explain what has Indian muslims to do with Palestine and Iraq? If you are pained by those incidents, go there and do Jehad or whatever there.
RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
Nobody from INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE going any aggressive way, they are not even law breakers but I think hiral joshi is a pakistani trying to create communal differences between communities. You should be tried without any bail dear.
RE:RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
So Who is Afzal Guru? Who is Shaid (Bilal) there can be such thousands of convicted terrorist names and all are Indian muslims. Dont take refuge in rhetoric. I skillfully exposed you.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
Blasts in Assam are done by ULFA a joint venture of ISI and HuJI. If you have low IQ problem avoid logical discussions in the message boards.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
If any even 1% of support was there tillnow , there would have been thousands of bombing , the whole security knows this, There have been sporadic bombing by foreign elements. This the reality , if you cannot face it just shut up. Again you are telling some ISI organisation , well friend this so called ISI organisation is in some country called ISI , which means this is pakistani, which is outside INDIA.And this was done by some buffons like jinnah and nehru. This is a terrotorial dispute. These guys are instigating into creating disturbance and easy guys like you are falling down, you are giving victory for elements like them. We should help the police with any information, so that next time this blasts wont occur, Hope you get something in the head. Actually I just pasted some of above messages because Friend I have returned from NORWAY and doing my project work in my holidays so I have little time to discuss the issues, What I had written before I just paste it because you also raise the same question again and again. Anyway take care.Hope I pray everything will be allright.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
Not only islamic leaders but also all the people following islam are against henious acts like terrorism, and also all kinds of terrorism.Terrorism is a parasite.Leave any islamic leader brother if islam would have been against these mentioned countries , there would have been a third world war.ISLAM prohobits killing anyone , that too innocent people. all the killers will go to hell. In any religion if anyone distorts the religion or goes against they issue decree all of them practice while muslims issue fatwa , since any decree is publicised they become centre of attraction. Jihad is nothing but a term used to fight suppression.As the palesine land is snatched and also america has invaded iraq without any reason , they have issued it .Jihad is just a term, all religion and nationalities issue in their own term . Dont you hear day in and day out Political leaders giving orders to cleanse areas of other communities everywhere in INDIA, People told to unite in name of caste to vote some wrong man.People told to cleanse their areas in the name of caste, religion being practiced in many parts of india. In UP, BIHAR , ORISSA, ASSAM and almost all north easten staes except bengal. Balthackeray also told openly even video also come out in sri krishma report and they are available ,He told to cleanse muslim and told all of them to be united to do that. He is still free because political and goonda pressure. There are many political leaders issuing directives in non political reas
RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by MOHAMMED raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
Come on man , daily there are bomb blasts in india from different communities , rapes, ethnic cleansing among hindu communities as well , lot of religions involved in india, naxal movement is one senseless movement controlled by whom.NAXAL MOVEMENT HAS SPREAD TO ALMOST HALF OF INDIA I.E HALF OF INDIAN DISTRICTS. Who suppports and runs the naxal movement. But no one said all hindus are terrorists.The whole of north east is sensitive spot with sporadic things happening every hour. The so called blasts triggered recently in Hyderabad is by foreign national elements , they are having their grouse against indian government, You should say about their nationlity but not the religion as peaceful as ours in INDIA. There is unrest among gulf countries because of israel and involvement of USA , the whole world knows. Once upon a time all indians also used to kill britishers so the britishers termed them as terrorists but if fact they were freedom fighters. Israel has occupied palestine, US has attacked & occupied iraq&afghanistan illegally, So the people are resenting, its normal. This can be associated by any community. Anyway when can you understand. LOW IQ Its simple.
RE:RE:RE:Dont try to malign for fault of others.
by hiral joshi on Sep 01, 2007 06:31 PM Permalink
Naxal movement is not of any particular community and neither it has to do anything with Hindu caste system. Dont expose your own low IQ.
Just explain why Indian muslims resort to violence for the attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine? Is it normal? Killing Indians for the deeds of other countries even most of the Indians has nothing to do with it?
The crux of the problem in India is lack of professional touch to our work, I mean work of the police and intelligence dept. Our police is basically corrupt and lack merit. They are not serious in their work . Most of the work force is engaged in giving protection to VIPs/ politicians. They lack accountability and enjoy job protection. They keep getting increments and promotions based on seniorty and corrupt practices. We still follow the outdated Police Act framed by the British. People with merit find them selves uneasy in such atmosphere and soon get adopted to established practices. Corrupt politicians call the shots in our Police dept. Honest and good people like Kiran Bedi get isolated and are posted to insignificant posts. How can we expect protection from such Police?
