1) Explan muslims (most of them did not study islam fully so they dont know that it is violent and rude) that Islam is not good always so take only the good thing(if so) and never accept if they try to convince.
2) There are thousands and thousands of proof exist to confirm that Islam is not a religion but a disease which should be wiped out.
3) Finally if we are soft again to start accepting their views or thought then our grand child either will be converted to Islam neither DIE IN THE HANDS OF MULLAH.
Question we can ask to Muslims:
1) why allah supply 72 virgin if any muslim follows islam fully (by killing nonmuslims) ?
2) Why there are seperate laws both here in earth and heaven for muslims and nonmuslims instead of good or bad?
3) why islam denies question or other beliefs and try to wipe out?
4) how you accept mohammed as a prophet as we know that he made thousands and thousands of Crime,murder,kidnapp,injustice,rape and so?
5) are you accepting mohd marrying 9 yrs girl and slept with her the same night?
Keep update about this Islam as it is a Disease(like Virus in computer) we should be updated about the current things.
Please reply your counter argument and i am ready to answer all.
RE:How to handle this Islam
by Libran on Sep 02, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Sorry Syed the strategies you have written here are very myopic. 1. By saying that Islam is rude and violent religion, I am sure more innocent Muslims will become rude and violent as they will consider that that is what their religion expects them to be. 2. Islam is a disease - That is your opinion and people won't accept others opinion easily 3. YOur third argument is just a statement of why others should fight Islamization but not how/
RE:How to handle this Islam
by Syed haneef on Sep 02, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
first thanks for your reply.
1) I am not sure whether innocent muslim will become rude, if so we will take it withtheir own way.
2) I can prove that its disease. Just read the historyof islam and you would agree with me.
3) there are international organizaion which started to take Islam.
how?
United American Committee : Counter protest of Islamist parade in NYC September 9
The United American Committee, America%u2019s largest educational grassroots organization against the threat of radical Islam, is planning a counter protest on Sunday, September 9th of an annual parade in New York City which in years past has attracted thousands of Islamist extremists carrying signs and chanting for the destruction of America. The parade, titled the Annual Muslim Day Parade, is sponsored by several Islamist organizations deemed by many Americans to be radical and a danger to freedom. Past parades have included such extremists as Ashrafuzzaman Khan, accused death squad leader, as well as Siraj Wahhaj, unindicted co-conspirator of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
The Parade route will head South, starting at Madison & 41st street and ends at Madison & 23rd. The parade starts at 12 Noon. UAC is urging all concerned Americans to join with them and several other unannounced partner organizations for a peaceful demonstration. Attendees are urged to bring American and U.A.C. flags. For those wishing to attend, and for more information please contact newyork@unitedame
Hi, to introduce myself i am no more muslim and writing this for all Nonmuslim to know about Islam.
1) Islam has no clear answer for anything. It will say yes in one page and no in another page. So that it will satisfy both.
2) There can be good muslim but there wont be Good islam ! ! !
3) Much of the Articles in quran tells how to treat nonmuslims. there are many level of treatmente.
Treatment 1: They will request them to convert to islam.
Treatment : 2 :
they will give final warning.
Treatment : 3 they start beating them till his death or he become muslim. There are confirmed wordings which say how to beat them starting from hand,leg and finally THEY WILL CUT YOUR HEAD.
So here you can notice that, soft people takes treatment 1 and argue that Islam is peace and it will only request.
But the real thing starts with treatment 2 and 3.
4) if they live in minority status (US,Europe,Australia,India,China,russia and so ) they demand for basic rights form them to follow Islam
5) About mohammed, he did not live as an noble man instead did lot of crime and spread the islam disease. He had only 150 followers after 9 years and when he start killing others he became big emperor after 10 yrs.
But if they have majority, immediately they deny very basic rights for nonmuslim and make them either dead or convert to islam (Pakistan,Saudi,iraq,iran,indonesia,bangalest,etc).
RE:Who came first ?
by Syed haneef on Sep 02, 2007 09:44 PM Permalink
Castism came first before islam and even islam says everybody equal inside islam there are countless division/caste. (sunni/shia/Sufis) and there are many subdivisions.
the clash within islam now has a reasonable number of casualities than caste base fight.(according to the survey).
The terrorists who come into our country and with the support of those whose backbone has gone missing and are turning pawns to these terrorists vested interests are testing our unity so let us remain united and prove it to them that we can be more mature and keep facing them till they know they are trying to empty the sea.Be vigilent and prove your power of unity.
RE:Terrorists testing our unity so prove it to them that our unity..;...
by Rajasekaran.Srinivasan on Sep 02, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
You are wrong.
they are doing their religious duty killing nonbeliever. (Even if some person of their own community will loss they wont worry as they are instructed clearly to do so).
It is your misunderstanding or weak positive thinking that they are testing ur unity or like so.
first read the quran even ifyou are not interested. then u understand why they are doing.
Islam is a DISEASE, which should be cleared in their own way of attack, which US/UK/Australia are doing.
Barack Obama says "He will destroy the terrorist whereever they are which includes all ismalic countries like pakistan,saudi,like)... He is the Gr8 courage man
We take it for granted that our country should have been like America by now. Our leaders have done nothing. But we forget that in 1947 india had : 50 million refugees from partition. communal & regional violence all over. we had no infrastructure, industry, educational system. we had no food. No root for Democracy. No Constitution.
But thanks to all our leader from Gandhi, Nehru, patel, Advani, Indira, Vajpayee, Ambedkar, Indian Enterpreners, Indian defence people & scientific community
We have all of above now. We became self suffucient in food grains in first 20yrs of independence. We had IITs, IISC, IIM, Recs, ISRO etc in first 20 yrs. Huge steel plants, dams, roads were built soon after independence. We opened market in late eighties and r now regarded as fastest growing economis.
America or Europe took more than 100yr to have mature democracy and economy. Our Leaders & our people did very very good job in 60 yrs.
Lot has to be still achieved, but let us salute our leaders, enterpreners, scientists and defence people and not always curse them for doing nothing.
RE:Blast is a wok of BJP !!!
by Jim on Sep 02, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
This is preposterous to say the least. Hyderabadi Muslims have been blatantly against Bharat for Years. Yes our political system is corrupt, leaders are inept but, that does not absolve the Hyderabadi muslim of their guilt. To say that RSS created this attack is STUPID at best.
Yes you can hide behind "Blame everyone elso but my community" thinking. You have done it for years. Idiots like you even came up with a consipiracy theory for 9/11 in the US!!! What was it again "Jews caused 9/11" was your ignorant theory wasnt it? Stop thinking that some how the entire Muslim population is PURE.
It is a fact that there is no other religion on earth that is radicalized to the extent Islam is. It is a fact that a large percentage of those radicalized muslims live in Pakistan and certain parts of India.
It is also a fact that a very large MAJORITY of muslims are like any other human being but, even a small percentage (if in single digits) of a billion people makes a very large number. Musharraf once said that about 5 to 10% of his country is fundamentalist and may be 1% of the total population may be completely radicalized and crazy. That in percentages is 1.5 million people that are radical. It takes just a few hundred to commit a terrorist act. It is thos 1.5 million people and may be a few hundred or thousand in India we should be after.
However you cannot start till you admit that there is a problem and stand up for what is right.
RE:Blast is a wok of BJP !!!
by Pradeep Thotapalle on Sep 02, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
BJP was nowhere in picture before Congress crossed its limits of muslim appeasement in late 1980s. COngress and similar political parties always cashed in on Muslim vote banks since Muslims have the practice of voting in bulk as per the Imam calls from the Mosques strictly on religion basis and issues. Hindu's votes are divided and no one cares for HIndu's religion interests nor Hindu's votes. Hindus do not have strong feelings about their religion. They do not protest when their Gods or Goddesses are seen in bad light in the West. No Hindu was involved in smashing vehicles on the bazars in Indian cities when Goutam Buddha's idols were shot by Taleban. Even BJP /RSS could not do anything that could be called a pro Hindu move when they were in power. They just enjoyed the power. It is muslims' general strong religion feelings which brought religion to politics not only in India but elsewhere in the world. Observe one thing. Everybody - police, common people and government(run by so called securlar Congress)is supecting the involvment of muslim religion fanatics behind these blasts and the other similar activities before. Do you mean to say that even in AMerica, 9/11 was carried out by the opposition parties to defame Bush. I think you should wake up to the reality. Being educated Muslims you have higher resonsbility than us to teach a lesson to distraught youth in your community. Teach them that Humanity is greater than Religion. Religion is for Humans not the vice versa.
No sane hindu is against secularism in this country,but the the way it is being practiced by all these politicians. They are more dangerous than the cold blooded terrorists themselves. No use in believing all these rulers whether at the centre or state. Let all the religious leaders/ well meaning social leaders/ public figures with integrity in all faiths pull together a huge movement to preach peace amonst different religions. Religious harmony is being threatened now by our dirty politicians and jungle neighbours like Pakistan & B'desh. Let them go to hell... Come on Indians!! Unite for our survival. Do not arrest terrorists but shoot them in encounters whether staged or real.. Jai Hind
RE:Shoot all these terrorists....
by venkat on Sep 02, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
That is not the answer. If one goes down 10 more will take up the cause. And there are 150 million of them.
I believe we have to ban the ideology which allows for such hatred.
RE:RE:Shoot all these terrorists....
by venkat on Sep 02, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
They are practising altakiya -- the time honored Islamic practise of doubletalk and deception.
