on other hand, there are other type of victims (hindus), Babu bajrangi, or VHP activist are roaming freely at present, but there are many (thousands (hindu)) are sufferig who may or may not invove in all incident, they are in jail, their family is suffering, etc etc.... Who cares..... nobody?????
RE:thousands of hindus are still suffering -Godhara riots
by geetanjli on Oct 31, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
idont mean to related to hidu muslim victim. i am talking about Victim, ofcouse they are(hidus) are sufferer, but unfotunatly, none of our leader care about these people, just to say again and again, Jago India jago.... we have to march toward great future not with painfull future.....
Some time back I saw a cartoon by Mr. R.K. Laxman where a little boy talks of his ambition to become a retired judge and head an enquiry commission which goes on and on and on............ It is the true story of many enquiry commissions in India.
Dear Sir, News reported 7.2crore spent,Babri Probe yet to end.who will be responsible? For sheltering Maoists, facilitating Bangaladeshi infiltrators and Church-supported separatist terrorists of NSCN(IM) what cost has been spent? who is responsible?The project(RAMSETU) which will be demolishing by govt what will be cost? please calculate. Panchanan Agrawalla, Journalist, Bhubaneswar
Ahmedabad: Could it be the lull before the storm? Over 24 hours after the Tehelka expose indicting Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi for the 2002 riots, no political party has come forward to make an issue of it. The Congress would certainly be hopeful, but one look at the deserted Congress headquarters in Gandhi Nagar makes one face a rather disturbing reality. In Gujarat, Modi is the only issue. He is the only issue that the BJP loves talking about. He is the only one that the Congress doesn't want to think about. So despite the Tehelka expose, the Congress doesn't seem to be too keen in taking him head on. "The revelation in the sting is obnoxious, horrible and shocking and some independent agencies should investigate this," Congress leader BK Hariprasad says. Critics say that this is just testing the political waters for the political parties. Many of the revelations made in the expose have been in public domain for a while. Now there are people admitting to their participation in the post-Godhra violence. Yet, the Congress is afraid of talking about those times. The rationale is simple. Modi was projected as a mass murderer in 2002, but he won a landslide victory. That's why his party is backing him to the hilt this time too. "It appears to be a Congress plant. The manner in which the sting operation was done clearly indicates a mindset to again bring about a sharp communal divide in the state, which is regrettable," BJP spokesman Ravi Shankar Prasad said. Whil
RE:BY BRINGING DOWN MOSQUE ADVANI CAN BECOME PM: BY KILLING 1000'S OF MUSLIMS MODI CAN BECOME CM AGAIN AND AGAIN- AISA MAHAN DESH HAI MERA
by chinnu on Oct 31, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
so wat abt mumbai riots in 1993.... wat abt attack on parliament?? HYD blasts??? y r u not talking abt them at all?? advani may be involved in demolishing BABRI masjid... but did he kill anyone ?? i agree abt Gujarat riots!!! (which got a bad name on some hindus) but if u take all the blasts or riots , there the terrorists ..so called JIHADHIS are involved and still INDIAN govt is so liberal towards them... too pity. this govt is tryiong to attract vote banks (minority vote bank) .. people shud understand the truth..
RE:BY BRINGING DOWN MOSQUE ADVANI CAN BECOME PM: BY KILLING 1000'S OF MUSLIMS MODI CAN BECOME CM AGAIN AND AGAIN- AISA MAHAN DESH HAI MERA
by Shahid Ahmed on Oct 31, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
MY Chinnu all involved in Mumbai Blast are been sentenced by bthe court Inclduing Sanjat Dutt the one who has Attacked parlament has been give life unto death all attacks on innocent people should be condemed be it Muslim or Hindus but its in India histroy whether its riots against SIKHS or Muslims the one who have carried out riots are members of POLITICAL PARTIES(CONG OR BJP) so no actions will be taken against them
RE:RE:BY BRINGING DOWN MOSQUE ADVANI CAN BECOME PM: BY KILLING 1000'S OF MUSLIMS MODI CAN BECOME CM AGAIN AND AGAIN- AISA MAHAN DESH HAI MERA
by mohammad yakoob on Oct 31, 2007 08:34 PM Permalink
DEAR CHINNU
AGREED THEY SHOULD BE HANGED TO DEATH AND CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS ARE HAPENING AGAINST THEM ON PRIORITY BASIS.
BUT WAT ABOUT THE ADVANIS AND MODIS HAPPILY RULING THE COUNTRY SITTING ON TOP POSITIONS
SO DID YOU MEAN MUSLIMS EVEN IF THEY SCRATCH THEY OWN BUM WILL BE HANGED BUT THE MAJORITY WILL BE LET SCOT FREE
RE:BY BRINGING DOWN MOSQUE ADVANI CAN BECOME PM: BY KILLING 1000'S OF MUSLIMS MODI CAN BECOME CM AGAIN AND AGAIN- AISA MAHAN DESH HAI MERA
by chinnu on Oct 31, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
u r onli talking abt guj. RIOTS.. they r the onli bad marks on HIDUS ...but wat abt other incidents like HYD blasts MUMBAI blasts?? parliament attack and so many in JAMMU &
Buddies, to learn the thruth about Babri,read the book on Ayodhaya by Prof Koenraad Elst. Just the way the secularists and leftists did then,almost everything in their power to scuttle the thruth being known, they are know hand in glove to keep the Lieberhan farce alive till the gujarat election verdict is out! In Modi's favour, contrary to their expectations!
This is INDIA, A BJP/VHP/MODI/CONGRESS state; can you expect a hindu to convict another hindu and that too ..for bringing down a Mosque.
New Delhi: The 2002 Gujarat riots have come back to haunt Chief Minister Narendra Modi in the election season after the Tehelka magazine linked him to the rioters through a series of sting operations carried out on a significant section of the accused. Important VHP and BJP functionaries admitted on hidden camera that Modi had told them to do whatever they wanted for three days. One of the main accused in the Naroda Patiya massacre, Babu Bajrangi, said Modi advised him to leave his Ahmedabad home and even arranged his refuge in Mount Abu. Some of the Gujarat leaders who made significant confessions on hidden camera included Gujarat Shiv Sena President Babu Bajrangi, Godhra BJP MLA Haresh Bhatt, VHP convenor for Sabarkantha district Dhabal Patel and Gulbarg Society massacre accused Madan Dhanraj Chawal. "We slit open her abdomen (Kauser Bano's), ripped out the foetus and threw it out in Naroda Patiya. We showed them what we can do. I called up the then minister of Gordhan Zadafia and VHP General Secretary Jaideep Patel and informed them. Zadafia immediately told me to escape from Gujarat," the tapes show Babu Bajrangi as saying. Haresh Bhatt claims: "Modi told me I'll give you three days. Do whatever you want, you will not be touched. No other CM could have done this." Dhabal Patel claims: "We made explosives with dynamite and we m
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by geetanjli on Oct 31, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
Value of blood is nothing in our country, whether it is hidublood or muslim or ......
Who is benifited after all of these.... all leaders is getting fruits whether they are opposing or supporting.... Jago india jago..
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by Tushar Dixit on Oct 31, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
Geetanjali ji, as long as blood of your near and dear is not lost, you can always say that. Easy to talk about lofty things like this. But if your loved ones were affected, then you wouldn't say that.
Yakoob... one sting operation without any credibility.. and you start making hue and cry. Have you tried to think about truth behind burning of sabarmati express, killings of innocent hindus since Moghuls come to India or continous killings of Hindus in Kashmir??
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by mohammad yakoob on Oct 31, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
Dhabal Patel claims: "We made explosives with dynamite and we manufactured a very large number of them. The cops helped us." "We chopped off his hands, then his legs and put the limbs and the body on fire," Madan Dhanraj Chawal spoke about the hacking of former Congress MP Ehsan Jafri. UNI Adds: Titled 'Truth Gujarat 2002', the investigation claimed that the bombs used in the violence were manufactured in factories owned by senior Bajrang Dal and VHP activists and that the arms were smuggled in from UP, Bihar and Punjab and then distributed to execution squads, led by MLAs and senior members of the Sangh Parivar.
RE:RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by geetanjli on Oct 31, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
on other hand, there are other type of victims (hindus), Babu bajrangi, or VHP activist are roaming freely at present, but there are many (thousands (hindu)) are sufferig who may or may not invove in all incident, they are in jail, their family is suffering, etc etc....
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by HinduParivar on Oct 31, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
Mr Yakub, Take off your the coloured lenses which are blinding you and savour the beauty and glory of the Hindu culture and civilsation, for your own benefit and that of those with tunnel vision!
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by Shahid Ahmed on Oct 31, 2007 08:37 PM Permalink
Mr HinduParivar Religion is for one'sself to Follow Culture and Civilisation in India is same whether its Hindu or Muslim but just asking you 1 Question. Did the 2002 riots happened in Gujrat or not? Were Muslims community targetted and killed or not. Well I would had said if one had to take revenge take revenge against those involved in burning the train. Why raping females and killing preganant women I know hindusim doesnt teach anyone to Kill in such a brutality manner. There were battles between hindu and muslim's kings in ancient India but when Hindu won they never killed the entire community or raped the females same goes with muslim. So why take revenge on innocent poor people who are nit even able to fed themselves up twice a day. take revenge agaisnt the killers not against the innocent
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by Mohammed on Oct 31, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Mr HinduParivar. Hinduism is a great religion. My best friends are hindus. But talking about hinduism I dont agree with your or BJP/RSS concept of hinduism. They just teach hatred in the name hinduism. I am also not justifying anything which people do in the name of Islam. I dont think any religion gives you these teachings but its the people like Advani/BJP/RSS/VHP and all those stupid mullahs who justify their fanatic thoughts and wrongs in the name of religion. Please, let all Indians live in peace.
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by ravikanth on Oct 31, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
In India there are thousands of mosques. In Islamic countries like Saudi and etc you are not allowed to build even a sinle temple/church etc. India is far better than any islamic country
RE:ADVANI,MURALI,UMA,MODI AND NANAVATI DEMOLISH BABRI MASJID
by chinnu on Oct 31, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
it's not HINDU convicting HINDU... ITS stupid politicians... for example ...take following scenarios! so wat abt mumbai riots in 1993.... wat abt attack on parliament?? HYD blasts??? y r u not talking abt them at all?? advani may be involved in demolishing BABRI masjid... but did he kill anyone ?? i agree abt Gujarat riots!!! (which got a bad name on some hindus) but if u take all the blasts or riots , there the terrorists ..so called JIHADHIS are involved and still INDIAN govt is so liberal towards them... too pity. this govt is tryiong to attract vote banks (minority vote bank) .. people shud understand the truth..
it seems, nobody care about the victims, no i am not taking about any specific cast/religious victims. in thousands of victim, i think it includes more than one religious people lost their lives, their house of any other type of losses. nobody is taking care to think about this. India is a country of Billons people. it doesnot mean, bold of people is valueless...
point is that who ever ignite this type of movement, has to stop using poor people's blood for their advantage. it is paining, yes it is paining. if every one of us (Indian) start caring other Indian, i think we will be real superpower of universe
itne mein toh 50 masjid or 50 mandir ban jaayega. wherever there are emotional fools there will be monkey(advani) will expoit this kind of situation.why didn't they build temple when they came to power.
The Archaeology Society of India conducted a study and an excavation to ascertain the type of structure was beneath the rubble. The summary of the ASI report [2] indicated definite proof of a Hindu temple under the mosque. In the words of ASI researches they stated "discovery of distinctive features associated with... temples of north India". The excavations yielded
%u201C stone and decorated bricks as well as mutilated sculpture of a divine couple and carved architectural features, including foliage patterns, amalaka, kapotapali, doorjamb with semi-circular shrine pilaster, broke octagonal shaft of black schist pillar, lotus motif, circular shrine having pranjala (watershute) in the north and 50 pillar bases in association with a huge structure" [
RE:Babri Masjid
by hameed mail on Oct 31, 2007 08:24 PM Permalink
if there was mandir, beneath the mosque may be rama wanted the mosque to built there. so it was babri masjid there. all hindus should realise that it is because of loard. otherwise hindus tried to demolish babri masjid and still could not built mandir even when they had power in there hands. hence the real story is lord wants masjid to be there.
RE:RE:Babri Masjid
by Prem Mohan on Oct 31, 2007 08:28 PM Permalink
That's not a convincing argument. In that case, maybe the demolition was also the will of God.
RE:Babri Masjid
by Shahid Ahmed on Oct 31, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
MR Prem then please go ahead and built Ram Mandir let the peace prevail Allow Muslims to build a Mandir and Hindus to build a Masjid I hope then there will be no fight left but politicing the issue is no good well there are many example of mandirs and masjid side by side and still peace prevail its here in Mumbai at Dadar Kaboortan khana. Build the Mandir but after that still Muslims in india will be called as terrorist, traitors, etc etc why hatred for a particular community. We have nothing against anybody but let peace prevail and mot everyone needs is not a mandir or a masjid but a shelter, proper food education and a secured job
RE:Babri Masjid
by Prem Mohan on Oct 31, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
Actually, there was once a Ram temple sharing a wall with the Babri Masjid. Here is some information that may be of help:
"According to the District Gazetteer Faizabad 1905, it is said that "up to this time (1855), both the Hindus and Muslims used to worship in the same building. But since the Mutiny (1857), an outer enclosure has been put up in front of the Masjid and the Hindus forbidden access to the inner yard, make the offerings on a platform (chabootra), which they have raised in the outer one."
As for peace, please understand that peace is a precious commodity and everyone is responsible for it.
