Political leadership believes that Indian Science and Technology is dependent upon foreign help. They should come outside of this old mentality, offer freedom and money to local scientists so they are inspired to give a bold try. There is no way around it.
Impossible, is a BS word. For decades USA and Russia sold weapons for bloodshed. With Indian corruption, Nuclear is a bad idea. And with USA as a promoter of war and grief, its a no no no. In my humble opinion.
Communists are most anti human anti democratic party. Congress paid the price of making alliance with the left parties. Whenever you bring communists in developmental process, it is bound to be hampered.
I do believe, congress should go ahead with the deal. It will show their true color of patriotism and that they can rise against the petty party politics and work something for the betterment of the general public.
RE:It is time to forget about communists
by Mahesh on Oct 30, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
Sudip, I agree with you on your thoughts about CPIM but if you see the N-Deal from different point of view, you are going to open up all of your nuclear plants to USA which is not good for any country. We have rich source of thorium and we should use that for energy generation. By putting N-Deal through, USA is putting its eyes on us so that we don't use it for Nukes. This should not be their business. N-Deal is only going to benefit rich NRIs and our Great Politicians in India.
RE:RE:It is time to forget about communists
by Indian on Oct 30, 2007 01:45 AM Permalink
mahesh, to be precise, we will need to split our nuke reactors between civil and military. The civil will be open for international inspection and will follow international norms.
RE:RE:RE:It is time to forget about communists
by hanek singh on Oct 30, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
dear mahesh thorium technology for use is still far away at least 20 years.in the meantime stock enough kerosene to light your lantern those days are not far off best of luck lalu has lantern as his election symbol
RE:It is time to forget about communists
by Mahesh on Oct 30, 2007 02:23 AM Permalink
Dear Hanek, please enhance ur knowledge before you ink. Pls read this: http://kashmirherald.com/main.php?t=OP&st=D&no=75
RE:It is time to forget about communists
by kartavya on Oct 30, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
oh really....do u know how r we goin 2 utilize that rich source of thorium....we don't have any shit nuclear reactors to get nuclear energy out of it....we have resitructions put upon us by 45 different nations....how do u think u gonna become a developed country, by remaining isolated and just blowing the trumpet that USA is doin this n that....STOP criticizing other nations and try to improve our political system
RE:It is time to forget about communists
by a c on Oct 30, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
India would not open up all its nuclear plants. India is free to designate plants which are for civilian use and open only those for IAEA inspection. India's strategic programme (aka nuke weapons) plants are not open for inspection. It is INDIA WHO DECIDES WHICH PLANT WOULD BE OPEN FOR IAEA INSPECTION, and not the US or IAEA.
The nuclear deal and `minimum deterrence' www.hindu.com/2006/07/10/stories/2006071004751100.htm "...there is nothing in any agreement India has signed that commits it to cap or
reduce its weapons-grade fissile material stockpiles."
I feel India got an excellent deal. I think India should immediately operationalize the treaty, Hyde act notwithstanding. There will be no problem as long as we are allied with the US and given our recent prosperity is due to economic ties with US, there is no reason not to choose the alliance.
Having said that, India is a democracy and parliament should reign supreme. Unfortunately the framer of the constitution did not grant any power to the parliament to ratify or abrogate treaties.
Dr.Singh will need political courage to face the consequence of operationalizing the treaty over the objection of the left. There are times when you have to uphold principle over expediency.
If India goes back on the deal following are some of the the possible damages: 1. Future US admins would be reluctant to pursue any major deal with India 2. Any future Congress led govt will have credibility problem in world capitals 3. Even though the US might be weakened due to Iraq etc it is not a nation to be trifled with. Even China the next superpower doesn't openly humiliate the US or its president which India will end up doing by dumping the deal. 4. India would be the only major economy that is boxed in the technology denial regime and would be handicapped in its quest for progress and prosperity 5. It would make it harder to come up with a commercial Thorium based FBR in the absence of research cooperation with other advanced nations 7. Given US sanctions against Iran no realistic of hope for IPI pipeline in the near future 8. If the US wants it can also make it harder for India to gain oil or LNG resources in other US friendly countries such as Qatar, Australia or Nigeria etc 9. India will have to build many more coal-fired plants to make up for the missing nuclear power plants, resulting in added pollution and green house gas emission 10. Just like PVNR backed out of nuclear test after preparing for it and then BJP went ahead with Pokhran-II, it is likely that another BJP govt would conclude the same deal and thus take all the credits at Congress's expense 11. India can pretty much kiss any hope of gaining a permanent UN seat goodbye for the foreseeable future
refreshed in future. Example like you have a car with half tank of petrol and you are cut off from ever puting more fuel. When you run out of that half tank thats it.
RE:No deal is better than BAD deal -Get same as US-China deal or Nothing
by a c on Oct 30, 2007 12:03 AM Permalink
There is nothing in the 123 agreement which requires India to sign onto FMCT. US didn't sign on to FMCT. India would not sign an NSG agreement draft that requires it to FMCT. Stop spreading the communist lies (these are the same people who condemned Pokhran-II or India having nuclear weapons and now they shed crocodile tears for fissile material). Opportunistic commie creep to the core.
