Bring President's rule in Gujarat, put all the perpetrators of crime (they have now admitted thier crimes)against humanity behinds bars, lock them up and throw away the keys
RE:Not sure what further evidence is the Central government waiting for
by Patriot on Oct 26, 2007 05:06 AM Permalink
Just for the record, and so that people do not start another track saying Ali reported the message for abuse.
I reported it for abuse.
If you cannot control your language when discussing like a civilized human being then don't come this way.
RE:Not sure what further evidence is the Central government waiting for
by Ali on Oct 26, 2007 05:21 AM Permalink
Thank you! I just hope everyone understands this is not about religion
RE:i have proof about muslims just kill them or throw them in sea
by Ali on Oct 26, 2007 04:50 AM Permalink
Are you justifying the killings? I am surprised people even have words to defend the killers
RE:i have proof about muslims just kill them or throw them in sea
by Milind on Oct 26, 2007 04:55 AM Permalink
Ali,
Are you justifying the killings of Hindu Pandits in the Valley ? Who started the killing game first ? You reap what you sow. And I agree that applies to Hindus too.
RE:i have proof about muslims just kill them or throw them in sea
by Ali on Oct 26, 2007 05:01 AM Permalink
I NEVER jutify killing of Human beings period. How can you the supposed educated class support a person who killed an unborn child. What has happened to you guys? I knew people have hard feelings but didn't realize it was this bad
RE:i have proof about muslims just kill them or throw them in sea
by Patriot on Oct 26, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Milind,
NOTHING JUSTIFIES DEATH.
Does it matter who started killing first? What a convenient question to ask. Really, do you even think that ANYONE who kills, rapes, tears to pieces, etc. for the sake of religion is right?
Stop asking inconvenient questions because neither side has any answers for these. Realize it today, before our children and their children will continue hating each other in the name of religion.
Godhra, Kashmir and all these are SLAPS on OUR OWN FACES. Blush in shame and let your blood boil each time anyone tries to divide INDIA in the name of religion again. Make sure that this MADNESS never happens again.
Am inspired by the open-minded investigation and presentation of facts by Hindus even though the attrocity was committed by Hindus. I wonder if there is any fair-minded, open-minded Muslim who will ever analyse and present the centuries of attrocities we Muslims have committed in India in the name of religion.
RE:How open-minded the Hindus are
by Patriot on Oct 26, 2007 04:56 AM Permalink
What's the matter my fellow Indian Hindus? When a Muslim says something crappy we take bring him down in the worst of words. But when you have Muslim speaking logic, pure logic, we have nothing to say?
What kind of hypocracy is this? Kindly speak up today to reinstate at least my faith that there is sense, honesty and patriotism in my country.
Very well said Imran! Proud to have an INDIAN like you in India.
RE:TM of Cornell and TM of rediff
by Shri Ram on Oct 26, 2007 04:53 AM Permalink
No way, now he is favouring bush after the exposure of his name. Thats not our duty the agencies will take care of it in 6 by 6 room.
RE:http://truecongresspolitics.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/truth-about-tehalka/
by Ali on Oct 26, 2007 04:46 AM Permalink
Politics my foot, we have killers on the camera admitting there crimes, lock them up. Why do we care about Tehalka, infact we should be thankful to help for briniging out the truth
RE:SHAME, SHAME, SHAME
by Ali on Oct 26, 2007 04:48 AM Permalink
I am ashamed of my fellow Indians justifying cold blooded murderers. A killer is a killer he or she does not have a religion. I am shocked and surprised that even after reading the details and the truth is out in open people are still trying to justify
i m a hindu and a gujarati, and if all of these accusations are true it is truly a shameful moment for all those who have dreamed of a peaceful and equal for all gujarat. its not that i live in fairy tales but certainly it was a dream that we will find leaders who will somehow eventually unite gujarat, hindu muslim standing side-by-side hand in hand. but unfortunately it seems that somewhere along the line in the name of god that no one can prove exists, we continue to kill the one thing that we know exists: humanity. to all the murderers who killed innocent people and enjoyed the carnage, justice will be served. no one escapes their sins. if the justice is not served by our corrupt judicial system, then, hopefully it will be served by that god that all of these murders so adamantly claim to believe in. how hypocritical: they forgot the first tenet of all religion-love, peace and humanity. isnt that really the proof that they dont really believe in god, but just use the name of god to propogate their hatred. what a shame for all humanity and for all those hindus who believe in the word of GOD, including myself.
I love and agree to both of you.It is the quality of Hindu dharma only that it gives regard to others way of worship and tolerates other%u2019s view-piont and allows an open debate for every issue. Similar is not the case of others. 1. There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country, which provides Haj subsidy. 2. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India? 3. Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister. 4. Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority. 5. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a %u2018fatwa%u2019 against terrorists. 6. Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have in the past elected Muslim as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim %u2013 majority J&K? 7. Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah? 8. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi? 9. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like? 10. When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens? 11. In what way, J&K
RE:An Excerpt taken from Tehelka forum:
by Die Hard on Oct 26, 2007 04:51 AM Permalink
1) There are 12 Hindutva organisations in Sangh Parivar. Show one Hindu Organization where a dalit (ofcourse a hindu) is a leader
2) There are 28 states and 7 Union Territories. Tell me one state or an UT where the dalits can enter into all of the hindu temples.
3). There are thousands of upper caste families in the country. Show is me one uppercast hindu family which is ready to have a dalit girl/boy as a their son/daughter in law.
Others too ask question. First we should bring our house in to order before crying foul about others.
RE:An Excerpt taken from Tehelka forum:
by Milind on Oct 26, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Die hard,
You are indirectly supporting what Pranav Motiwala is saying. He is talking about the priviledges enjoyed by minority Muslims in India. And you are saying that caste system is not allowing some Hindus basic priviledges. What you dont realise is that you are indirectly saying Minority Muslims are getting more priviledges in India than some Hindus!
Isnt it time that everyone should get the same priviledges ? Be it education, jobs, civil law. How can we have seperate laws based on religion in a democracy ?
RE:An Excerpt taken from Tehelka forum:
by Bon Jovi on Oct 26, 2007 05:22 AM Permalink
then y hindus are in those countries? like dubia saudia jordon syria indonesia? just for some bucks!hipocrisy at its peak! Milind what Pranav is saying is total hate 2wards muslims!tell me when 2000 lost their lives not a single till today is apprehended and logic is 'those 55 were burnt' forensic reports told what? tehlka is telling what? both cant be wrong just to support modi!if u say it was retaliation then those who killed 55 must have retailited for babri! and 2000 were muslims did they get any justice?an y it was so targetted that in a street muslims were killed and hindus were left untouched?y muslims homes were marked way b4 godhara? Indians work in middle east!same jobs that everyone does!they r even executives and even doormen!juss like in india! if u have knowledge ull get jobs!if thats the case then y r hindus in those countries? they arent there for nuffin they are there coz they get bucks and then come in here and poison people oo this is rong here and in the morning praise their shiekh employer! If after mumbia blasts u got all that were involved for 260 people dead y mute for 2000 people? jus becoz they were muslims?did those 2000 killed those 55? y 2000 sikhs lost their lives in 1984?did they kill indira? now ull say retaliation? for one ull kill 2000?and wheres the justice for those sikh families forget abt muslims as they have to prove their allegiance to india!and dont call it congress or bjp its hindu vs muslim! and u knwo it!its all programmed!
RE:RE:An Excerpt taken from Tehelka forum:
by Pranav Motiwala on Oct 26, 2007 04:37 AM Permalink
In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh, to have article 370? 12. Why Gandhiji supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got? 13. Why Ghandiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses? 14. If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states? 15. Do you admit that Hindus have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves the problem? 16. Why post-Godhra is blown out proportion, when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir? 17. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%. Today it is about 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights? 18. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today; whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists? 19. Do you consider that
RE:RE:RE:An Excerpt taken from Tehelka forum:
by Pranav Motiwala on Oct 26, 2007 04:37 AM Permalink
19. Do you consider that %u2013 Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Iman is Secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr. Praveen Bhai Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, Vande Matharam is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is communal and Jihadism is secular, and at last, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular? 20. When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan? 21. Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai Can a Hindu %u2013 say Mulayam or Laloo %u2013 ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa? 22. Dr. Praveenbhai Togadia has been arrested many time on flimsy grounds, has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been arrested for claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating further partition of Bharat? 23. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed? 24. Afzal Guru,attacker on Parliament,isnot being put to hanging inspite of repeated otders of supreme court?Could he be spared in any muslim or christian country for the same crime? No terrorist has yet been hanged.
