RE:North Indian hindu gods Vs South Indian hindu gods
by padmanabha holla on Oct 30, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
In rama's mother toung Valmiki wrote the Ramayaqna. He walked from Ayodhya to Lanka.
RE:rape capital delhi.
by r patil on Oct 28, 2007 03:26 AM Permalink
rape incent are you kidding,you mean even the "Dravidian hindu Gods"huh ?As you have claasifised hindu Gods as north Indian hindu Gods and south Indian hindu Gods. You think you can speak anything about Hindu Gods and get away with it huh!check out what Moses and jashua did(took enemy vargins as sex slaves ehich is very proudly menstioned in bible)What Lot and his two daughter did by the GOd blessing.They are countless such examples.
RE:rape capital delhi.
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 30, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
Do we care for christians, Hindus are the one who are fast converting to christianity due to caste system, opressions and brahmin hegemonism.
RE:RE:rape capital delhi.
by r patil on Oct 31, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
dont you worry about that jeffrey,why are you changing topic ,it is you who is accusing hinduism to be beleief in rape and incest,hence I gave you the proof rape and incest being mentioned in bible itself(inside proof not external allegation)
No monkeying around with the Rama Sethu. If Karunannidhi wants to destroy this wonder of the world, then the responsibility rests squarely on his head, which it seems, has grown humungously from all the power going to his pea-brained head.
RE:Monkey biz in Tamilland
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 25, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
Ram Sethu belongs to Ram and Sita, we must all save it.So next time any ravana does any wrong, we can use it .
RE:Monkey biz in Tamilland
by Jeffrey Sharma on Oct 26, 2007 01:03 PM Permalink
So you mean Ram constructed hi technology bridge to save his wife? But finally he coudn't save his wife, and I am pretty sure he can't save his country and women in this country. Well Delhi is Rape city of country. I think some of the Ram's AVatar need to appear immediately or vishnu's avatar also need to appear to protect and save this country.....Forget Ram sethu, we can go to srilanka by 45 minutes flight from chennai.
We have air india, srilankan airways.. so don;t need ram sethu anymore..
Mr Karuna is not the whole sole rep of Tamilians in particular to followers of MuthuRamlingaThevar, a hardcore Tamil leader.This population clubbed with Vanniars form 45% of TN.Mr KARUNA does not have suppport from majorities.The way in which he is aggressive(like Old VEERANAM,COOVAM...BTW what is the status of those projects today?)shows that there is a heavy deal!All Tamils are not the supporters of RAM-SETHU through this route, as there are other viable alternate routes.
RE:What happened to DMK imp Coovam & Old Veeranam Projects?
by siva kumar on Oct 24, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
If project is completed thro other routes will you agree that there was no deal!
Deal is everywhere from central govt to all state governments and that is our system and noone or no party or leader is exception to it
Whom do you indicate as majority ? vanniars under the leadership of Doctor Ramdoss is supporting Karunanidhi.
If you dont get angry by the abusing of North Indian Chauanists then you are thick skinned without any sensitivity..
RE:What happened to DMK imp Coovam & Old Veeranam Projects?
by ThanjaiTamizhan on Oct 24, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
DMK has done innovations in corruption in those days too, when our great Kamaraj was in power.Deal may be common today, but for the DMK it is in their blood.YOu do not seem to know about PMK very well, it seems!FYI, Lord RAM is a Tsatriya & Ravana is a Brahman!WE should always support truth, whether it is uttered by North or south Indians!Perhaps U may not know how Great Kamraj was abused by DMK,when he was a COMMAND of ALL India Congress!Entire Tanjore district has almost gone for dogs (in agriculture), all becz of them!
RE:What happened to DMK imp Coovam & Old Veeranam Projects?
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 25, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
No aryan dravidians. that is great.
But there are Dalits and Brahmins. Brahmins cannot eat at dalits house and Dalits cannot become pujari.... Britishers love Brahmins, and dalits are loved by BJP for its vote bank
RE:Ram setu
by Jeffrey Sharma on Oct 26, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Are you telling me harry potter story and jamesbond 007 story , that ram ravan fought and he killed etc.. used hitech missiles etc etc.... Why is Ram not helping this country. Why he is only helping americans to grow fat?
RE:Ram setu
by Manikandan Thirumoorthy on Oct 24, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
so we dont want the modern day monkeys like you and your leader karuna to destory that bridge...
RE:Ram setu
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 25, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
Is any more Sita in Lanka? Why does Ravana has to take sitas or gitas from here. Nowadays Ravanas come here by small boats and get Indian passport by paying petty amount to passport officers and police. Ravana's are enjoying Indian citizenship and also getting married to Gitas and Sitas
There is no one to entertain swamy and he is fed up, frustrated and wants to draw the attention of the public.That is why he is involved in such type of Gimmicks. A Harward university professor in Economics should know the economic viability of the project and contest the it according to that. Instead he is opposing the project on religious grounds which is quite funny. Now the court says it can not interfere because it did not set up the commitee, then it should have said it can not interfere in a project taken up after much research and project studies by experts in the relevant fields. Unnecessarily it sought the opinion of the ASI there by kindling the religious faith of certain community. Rediff was the real beneficiary as it utilised the opportunity to make the rediff users to use the site for a maximum period, the rediff users used the opportunity to scold and abuse Tamilians in General and Mr. Karunanidhi in particular. The kind of abuses heaped on Tamilians and Karunanidhi has made even his opponents to support him.
RE:RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Oct 24, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
Hi new face Iam gald the you are Tamilian and get hurt when people abuse Tamilians. But it is not the fate of the Tamil people to get abused for an Individaul Tamilans thoughts, Have you thought about it, We do not abuse Gujaratis Hindians or anyother ethnic group, just because a member of that group makes a remark that is not or liking , we just chastise the person . that is what most here should have done. No they just used this as an excuse to vent thier anti Tamil venom. Just think about itMost of these so called HIndu warriors are not about HIndus especially Tamil Hindus , to them it is only about North Indian Hindus, They cry about RamSethu butdo you think they are interested about Murugan ( No they will not be ) Theythink Ram is their special god( and not the god of other HIndus).Most tamilians are strong Saivites ( that does not mean they hate Ram) but to them Siva Murugan,Ganesh. Kali are more important so that is the reason it did not cause so much of furore in Saivite Tamil Nadu .The same thing if Some one Insults Lord Murugan it wil not cuase much of a ripple in North India ( unilke in Tamil Nadu) Many of these so called HIndian Hindu warriors come on other forums and nake fun of you fellow Eelam Tamils ( who are 80% Hindu) and laugh amke fun of thier horrible plight. Will they do the same about the Ruwandans Cambodians or the Jews or Darfur. These are their fellow HIndus but they are so anti Tamil that they dont care that Hindu land temples people are destd
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by tamilan on Oct 24, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Dear Chelvarajan Sethukavalar, A thoughtful reply. I just endorse what is posted here. As you rightly said some vested interest took the opportunity of blaming entire Tamil community for the fault of a few.
RE:RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by tamilan on Oct 24, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
And they forgot that during moghal ruling south india especially Tamilnadu became safe heaven of Hindu culture.
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by ThanjaiTamizhan on Oct 24, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
Forget North getting agitated,what is the status in South?Lord Siva,Ganesh,Muruga are all insulted & we keep mum on these ppl!Believe we were also non-believer of God & these ppl have converted us to hardcore protectors now!They do mockery of our fastings, but enjoy the evening feast & utter some non-senses about our traditions!remember,for Our ancient Tamil literatures made (incluing all saints Veeramamunivar,Umarupulavar)by our saints indicate TAMIL traditions with splashes of some unscientific imaginations.But these idiots do not have guts to redicule others but for saivites.In north, they do not oppose/hurt the feelings of other sub-groups!They too have names like Krithik,Ganesh etc.,
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Oct 24, 2007 05:17 PM Permalink
Iam Hindu and I do not like Hinduism being abused by anyone either by Karunanidhi or by anyone. You dont get my gist if Karunanidhi made these ramrks he gets chastisised thaths it. But most people used that to vent their anti Tamil feelings. Ia makink observation as to why is did not cause much ripple in Tamil Nadu compared to North India . I am aware many Tamilians are Vaishnavites and many North Indians are Saivites. But North India is predominantly Vaishnavite and Tamil Hindus are predominantly Saivite so it impacts on them differently. Every one knows that Tamil Nadu is a bastian of Hindusim. Yo ubeing a Tamilian wil leven know the meaning of my name/ My othe obervations are from what these same people have reamareded at various forums
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 26, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
Mostly dravid Tamilians worship gods which are converted from Jains. Eg: thiruvalluvar(Jain saint very popular in dravid history before hindu came in south india), Vardaperumal(vardhman swamy),Thrilognathar perumal (thirthankar), Chandramouliswar (chandraprabhu), Venkateshwara(Neminath), Siva( Lord adinath, or Arugar swamy),Meenakshi(padmavati), Kamakshi(padmavati), Nagarajar Perumal(Parsvanath). These are real historical facts will not really go well with Aryan dominated history. Dravidian temples are today property of Brahmins and Hindus.
If cover from these gods are removed only jain gods will be discovered. jain history is 5000 years old and it was very popular with dravidians.
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by siva kumar on Oct 24, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
You are absolutely wrong Mr.manikandan. North Indians have in-built superiority complex as the western whites have against coloured. Most of the north Indians do not even know that there are four different states and four different languages spoken in South India. They generally call all south Indians as madrasis and their language as madrasi. When we got independence, all agreed for a three language formula all over India. But afterwards the north Indian leaders conspired and declared Hindi as the national Language.By this the south indians were forced to learn 3 languages but north indians refused to study any south indian language as third in their schools. Over that they insulted us saying that we are not Indians if we do not learn Hindi. So it is fully justified to oppose Hindi in schools because it was an issue of self respect. Even then Dravidian parties did not close down the Dakshin Bharath Hindi prachar Sabha hence whoever wanted to learn Hindi privately were not stopped. That's how I learnt hindi. So opposing Hindi was for self respect. Hinduism is great but are Hindus great ? No. Read the story of Ambedkar to understand how even such highly educated lower caste person was abused by the so called higher caste hindus. once I read, after Independence SC voter of then Prime Minister charan singh have never voted..i.e.,never allowed by the Jhats of that constituency, such was the plight of lower class people. Thatis why we are not able to tolerate when s
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by Ravi Balachandran on Oct 27, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
This is what the discussion I really want the so called northies to reply. Waiting for responses my fellow indians from north....
Also I want to add some points to the discussion. Check with any of your north indian friends about the culture, language, food, etc about southies, I bet none of them know. What they want is to a small road side shop to severe punjabi thaali and roti, subzi, etc in tamil nadu or andhra, if not, they start abusing that southies dont respect their culture, their food and finally hindi.
One of my northie friend asked me why none participated from dravidian states during indian independence struggle. See, we learn about fighters from punjab, from haryana, UP, bengal, but what about other dravidian states. Did any of the northies know about south indian people who fought for freedom? Thank god godse who killed Gandhi was not from south, otherwise this venjon against tamils would have started long back in 1948 like what they are now blaming for rajiv gandhi. Why you guys not blame the state who killed mk gandhi or indira gandhi?
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by its me on Oct 24, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
No one is insulted no one We are of one race not aryan and dravidians This divide is created by brishers to suit their agenda Respect each other and remain unite All north indians respect shrinivas ramanujum and many
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by siva kumar on Oct 24, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
If project is completed thro other routes will you agree that there was no deal! Deal is everywhere from central govt to all state governments and that is our system and noone or no party or leader is exception to it Whom do you indicate as minority ? vanniars under the leadership of Doctor Ramdoss is supporting Karunanidhi. If you dont get angry by the abusing of North Indian Chauanists then you are thick skinned without any sensitivity..
RE:Unemployed subramaniam swamy
by Jeffrey Mital on Oct 25, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
If you give Sita to Karunanidhi, he will surrender, if not Sita, even kushboo is fine. There will be two temples in Chennai- Sita temple and Khusboo temple. Mr. Ram is poojari of temple. Karunanidhi will worship in black glasses.
Modi gets the 'fire' and BJP gets the brickbats throughout India, according to they gave to the people of Gujarat; the Left gets mass support, what they gave to the people of Bengal for last 30 years.
RE:Modi gets the 'fire' and BJP gets the brickbats throughout India, according to they gave to the people of Gujarat; the Left gets mass support, what they gave to the people of Bengal for last 30 years.
by S Kiran on Oct 24, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
Hey terrorist, have you read about your commies being trashed around in WB for ration scam?
RE:Modi gets the 'fire' and BJP gets the brickbats throughout India, according to they gave to the people of Gujarat; the Left gets mass support, what they gave to the people of Bengal for last 30 years.
by Vishwamithran TKB on Oct 24, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
The latest dream you have seen? Have some sense while writing this type of nonsese Mr Sahadevan.