RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:18 PM Permalink
since you have collected data targetting one faith, do you have data on others faiths too, if so why you didnt post the other side... is it not a matter of being racist.
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
How can we say about the things we happened in the Past.That time there was no boundaries as such. All these countries started taking shape within 100 years.. First Man must have been born somewhere in these world then his offsprings started spreading all over the world.. Logic is Simple..
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
Islam comes from the root word Salaam,which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt). The word Salaam is also an attribute of God. In this context, it means The Giver of Peace.Muslims greet each other with Salams which translates to wishing peace for one another.Thus peace is a goal that Muslims are required to strive for, in their own selves, in their families and in their communities.Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect,even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain. Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations.The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. May one ask,Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, and to the East coast of Africa ?
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
Why Some People hate Islam?Who is preaching hatred.You peoples always saying bad about Islam & Muslim. & You people accuse us muslim for preaching hatred.Then tell me what you Honourable educated People doing in these forums.You will hardly find a muslim saying anything about any faith. but you will find lots of Non-Muslim preaching Hatred for muslims. Then tell me who is more Tolerant? Why you people always Preaching Hatred. What do you mean by terrorism? Is it only planting bombs? No planting hatred is also a kind of terrorism. In fact that is the root of all terrorist activities. You people are worse than a terrorist. Is it not the biggest terrorism to question the integrity of the other religion??? Have some sense and speak man...try being tolerating and understand there is no religion that preaches killing people! The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims like me are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of. The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. . Discrimination will destroy the whole community Arent u educated and aware to think like a sane person?
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 24, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
The Answer to your basic question is that there was no motherland when the invasion happened, only kingdoms that were fighting with each other. Dont u realize that you are trying to use a different era. Can i ask you a basic question? If you were born in a muslim family would you still be asking the same questions?
RE:RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
I am always taking side of my Country.Never in my dreams i can say bad about my country. But it seem u have been brainwashed a lot by your Fundamentalist people.. One thing what right u have to ask about anyother's faith. I am not saying about anyone's faith.. did i say?
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Shajit Ali on Oct 24, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
Islam is not barbaric. islam flourished from 7th century. who is predatory? Those who dont know there history are predatory) Indian muslims are always patriotic.(See the records of culprits who sold indian secrets to other nations), Indian muslims living in Indial culture only. take a census in the cities and find out who is still holdin the native culture. destruction of place of worship? Please ask the history. the case is still pending in the courts.
RE:RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by ravi kumar on Oct 24, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim you dont have a point and still insisting on lot of gibberish thats intolerance I think. More over You have not answered this guys question. I think muslims were barbarians and they still are. Muslims believe in killing other religionists for their political ends as has been taught in their holy book, correct me if i am wrong. Muslims following kuran word by word is not fit to live in a secular society. because by book any one who belive all religion is same siezes to be a muslim. If you want I can give you verse no. If you think its only some interpretation I will tell you if holy book is open to interpretation how holy is that specially when its not philosophy but rules. Vomiting gibberish will not help anybody, firstly try to be fair.
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 24, 2007 01:40 PM Permalink
Ravi, do you think this is a reasonable question that you are out attacking Ismail. do you condone the bloodshed that hundreds of kings been involved in eg Asoka etc. do you think it was right when there were riots against the tamilians by karnataka during the cavery water disputes. there are plenty of actions in history. if you are trying to squeeze one muslim to say something so u can hit him on the head for your general hatred to muslims, its a terrible thing to do.
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
All those trying to blame the muslims and Islam I have a simple question. How do you plan to convert 28% population of the world to another religion. By abuse? :-) If you have some better ideology to offer then go to those people and explain them your ideology. How are you going to make any difference by posing hate here ? In the time I needed to write this post 100 new muslims were born...how do you plan to convert people ? Islam has never seen mass conversions as hinduism. When people are leaving your religion in thousands how can you be worried about some other religion? Is like when your own house is on fire you are worried about the fire in the neighbours house. By 2020 Islam would be the most followed religion in the world. Every third person would be a muslim. Your children will be in touch with the muslims more than ever before...So to protect your ideology you have to work in your ranks. The more you get involved in hate mongering the more you leave your own house unprotected.... Those people who left hinduism to convert to Buddhism in front of national TV were not forced by any muslim to convert. These might just be the initial waves out of hinduism the biggest waves of conversion out of hinduism might be round the corner because the educated hindus are busy abusing muslims and people from their community are leaving hinduism from the backdoor to merge with buddhism.
RE:Basic question to Ismail and his followers...
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 24, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
Noone is Loyal as such. What u say or demands does'nt make any sense. Is it Possible.. Which major places u r talking. India is for all. You dont have exclusive rights.. do u have?
