But the question is why does the Congress which should know better succumb to the destructive obstructions by a microscopic minority represented by Karat and the other members of the gang of four? Why don't they go ahead with operationalizing the deal as wished by the majority of patriotic Indians?
RE:Nuclear will open floodgates......
by rajeev krishnan on Oct 18, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
Swamy, what u mean by patriotic indians? Do u think those who oppose the deal is unpatriotic?
I think India should work on the other sources easily available from nature (solar etc) to deal with the electricity shortage.
Yes, opportunity of $300 billion business for american companies. Billions for Quottrotchies, and millions for Indian politicians. 7% of total power generated in India to people(hoping that they are maintained by suspectful supply of spares from unreliable america). Opportunity to surrender our territories for american war in this region. More McDonalds, KFC, Walmart to supply american soldiers in India. Many more such opportunities..!
The Left parties of India are a mystery to many people. So here is the "Indian Left's Economic Policies Explained for Dummies" : 1. China was welcome to conduct its first nuclear test in 1964 but it is a very grave sin for India to follow up with its own Nuclear test in 1974. 2. China can open up its economy and aggressively pursue economic reforms since 1978 but India should not start its economic reforms even in 1991. 3. If India & China are at war, India should be called the agressor (1962) no matter whatever be the truth. 4. China can allow MNCs like McDonalds, KFC, Coke, Pepsi, etc. to setup everywhere but India should ban all of these companies. 5. China can open up its FDI to retail in 2003 and create millions of jobs but India should not open its retail to FDI even in 2007. 6. China can follow privatisation policy and privatise more than 60,000 public sector companies but India should not privatise even one. 7.China can spend millions of dollars developing its infrastructure and modernising its army in the 90's but India should not follow suit. All developments activities in India are anti-poor and must be opposed. 8. China can send a man to space in 2003 but India should not send its man to space even in 2014. It is a wasteful expenditure when we have so much poverty...the list goes on.. POLICY SUMMARY: 100% Capitalistic China with its fake communism and totalitarian regime should develop fast and become a great superpower. India should continue to be poor
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by trikarn on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
superb write up, leo. also add that the left loonies like shadevan, karatji, achuji, pinnariji, bimanda, etc continue to get their monthly salary from beijing for the services rendered to the great cause of spreading chinese hegemony!
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by ashvin venkat shivaraju on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
BUT trikarn, Leo has not touched upon the nuclear deal opposition by LEFT which is in favour of INDIA. LEFT is right in opposing the nuclear deal - the benefit is less and destruction is more if congress goes ahead with this deal
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by Leo on Oct 18, 2007 09:15 AM Permalink
...and 9. China can have a nuclear deal with the US and Australia and receive all help from the NSG whereas India should suffer from Nuclear Apartheid and the looming Energy Crisis in the future. RED SALUTE to COMRADES for successfully implementing this policy so far. Please..Please strictly enforce the RIGHT TO POVERTY for us. It feels so good to be poor and third world.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by satya pal on Oct 18, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
deal shall be with out conditions.deal shall be similar to other super powers.no intereference in foreign policy.we purchase the gas from iran or else where.america's past with india is not good.1965 war with pakistan,1971 and kargil episode.all speak of double standard.no permanent seat in united nations.america is laying trap for india.if america is so inclined to offer nuclear energy,then come to real business.we are not explosing nuclear device.we are not threatening any body.we do not go to attack any body.america is not a role model country.one should be very careful in signing any sort of agreement with usa.we should not blame communists.we should do soul searching.let there be debate and outcome known to every body.coming time america will be in trouble due toits policies.small nations will unite.there will be no check on nuclear material.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by Lost Indian on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
Communist might be the worst people on earth, PArasites, hopeless, blood suckers. But above that they are Right on the N-Deal. Why does the PM has problems in discussing the deal in public. Its the Congress who is selling the country to USA.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by Tom Dick on Oct 18, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
I am wondering if the same deal is offered to us by China, would the left parties make all this noise?
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by prayaag pathare on Oct 18, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
Whatever left maybe, but regarding N-deal i think Left are right. U see according to the agreement with america, we cannot conduct nuclear test. If we do, they can recall all equipment back. Then what about money we have invested? Nuclear test may be essential in near future for our security. Do u think world can restrict our enemy from conducting test. China & pakistan does not have this restriction. Plus what we get from this deal is only fuel for energy!! Which in year 2020 will be approx. 7% of our energy need. So what's the use of this N-deal?? What about Indo-Iran gas pipeline deal? Why govt. is setting on that? And why not make reactors based on thorium which is available in plenty on our country. Our scientist are capable of doing this, then why to take external help? Left is saying this, they are not opposing nuclear power. U all are not understanding them. Regarding N-Deal with america Left is right, i support them on this only.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by qsort on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
hey prayaag,
You keep telling that if we conduct test they will pull the plug on us. You may be right, but can you point us where did you get this information from? By any chance did u read and understand 123 agreement? AFIK, even left dint say this, I wonder how would you get this!
Why do you so worry about something may or may not happen in the future. Just think about what we can gain if we get this deal done. I don't know why you so worry about nuclear test!
You are talking like those idiot politicians (communist), who rejects the deal without making legitimate comments... I am not saying the deal is good for us, but please provide us the detail why the deal is bad for us. I can't take 'nuclear test' as an legitimate reason.
RE:RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by qsort on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
> Do u think world can restrict our enemy from conducting test.
Do you think the world will stop us doing our own test just because we signed 123 agreement? Do you think US can just like that withdraw from the agreement? The lose is mutual, isn't it?
RE:RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by jomesh nair on Oct 18, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
if at all the left had strong reservation then why didnt they oppose the deal at first place itself why did they voice their concern when all the ground work had been done only to trnish india`s image in world politics.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by sunny p jacob on Oct 18, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
Not finished..then 10. Put a hold on all developmental programmes and run after same programmes 20 years later. Unless there are poor and jobless, who will be there to demonstrate in the street ( not free but for Rs.150/- plus lunch plus a pint!i.e. that is the going rate in Kerala!don't know other places). The comuunist party is the biggest capitalist with huge assets in the country. They own TV channels,News papers, control coop banks etc.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by Nandakumar R on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
It is their's (Left) policy to oppose N.Deal. It has figured in the Common Minimum Programme of the coalisition govt.Knowingly why Congress has sought the help of left to form the Govt. They have united in the name of secular and not the economic development policies. So it is better not to blame left, instead face the election and go for mandate from the public. Congress has no guts to do that. Even Indira Gandhi never secumbed to US Policies/tacties. Does Congress has guts to oppose left in all states of india. When comes to election they will unite again to get votes to elect their mps and increase the mps quota. That is what Congress's pathatic show. Development is not the one when common public is overburdened. It should go with par with people. Don't build building on the death beds of the public. Today india is shining but people are dying.
RE:Indian Left's Policy Document Explained
by Viswanathan Ramki on Oct 18, 2007 09:40 AM Permalink
Very well said.Add the fact that the Indian Commie thinking is under instructions from China.That is the easiest way to keep Indian competition at bay and march ahead successfully and become the world's largest economic power.