Gladiator the argument by design which u have said doesn%u2019t prove God exists, it actually compounds the problem. If u are looking at the world and saying there must be a creator then my question is who created the creator.From the beginning people have the tendency to give the credit to God for anything they couldn%u2019t understand like lightning and rain but as civilization advanced and science developed god has taken a backseat. We might not be in a position to answer completely how we were made but that doesn%u2019t mean god made us.Pls vist this site for the ULITMATE TRUTH
RE:To Gladiator
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 16, 2007 06:24 PM Permalink
I am Surprised that HINDU FANATICS like "IMRAN" alias "MOHAMMED QURAISHI" are keeping Muslim Names ??? Even after so much hatred for Islam they are happy to keep the Muslim Names...
RE:To Gladiator
by Imran on Oct 16, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Ismail really u need to get urself checked with a psychiatrist. U keep repeating the same things again and again. We are not impotents but u don%u2019t have any intelligence. U are a brainwashed zombie of islam and a big liar trying to cover the falsity of islam.
RE:RE:ATTENTION JGN
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail Sayyed and Daer Gladiator, nobody hates muslims. We are against irrationalism.
Islam is Arab Imperialism. The Prophet had proclaimed that his tribe is the most superior one and enjoined upon all Muslims to visit Kaaba atleast once in their life time in order to create a perpetual source of income for his trible.
If Allah is formless, most merciful and all pervading, what is there at Kaaba to worship? Have you ever thought of that?
The Arabs do not consider Indian and Pakistani muslims as equal to them. Toothless Arabs can marry young muslim girls at Hyderabad or Calicut but no Indian or Pakistani muslim can marry an Arab girl!
RE:RE:RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Billy on Oct 16, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
Dear JGN, I assume, you claiming to be rational by your post but your arguments are baselss unless proven. I would assume so unless you could quote me the source of "Islam is Arab Imperialism" mentioned above. FYI- Kaaba is there not to worship but to ask all the Muslims across the world to face only in 'ONE' directions of Kaaba symbolizing that there can be only one center to a circle just like there is one God to this universe. If you think Muslims worship Kaaba than you are wrong. We worship Allah the ONE and ONLY. It was a command from Allah to visit the house of his friend Ibrahim (Prophet of Islam) in Quran. You see when ignorance prevails there is no room for rationale as you suggest. You need to go back to the sources to be rational and that can be only found when you have a constructive dialog with peers who know about the suject.
RE:RE:RE:RE:ATTENTION JGN
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 11:09 PM Permalink
Dear BK,
You have picked up only a portion of my message. The Second para is evidence of Arab Imperialism. I quote again:
The Arabs do not consider Indian and Pakistani muslims as equal to them. Toothless Arabs can marry young muslim girls at Hyderabad or Calicut but no Indian or Pakistani muslim can marry an Arab girl! Can you prove me wrong?
>>>>It was a command from Allah to visit the house of his friend Ibrahim (Prophet of Islam) ........so Allah has a friend also. This is a new information to me! Another semitic religion proclaims about a middleman (like the Stock Broker of Mumbai Stock Exchange thru whom only one can enter the heaven. And ofcourse we can influence him thru his mother and countless saints also!!!!!!!!!!! What a wonder heaven has been kept ready by the all powerful Almighty for the poor inhabitants of planet earth!!!!!!!!!
Dear friend, please download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks available freely at www.gutenberg.org It will certainly enrich you and also remove some of the misconceptions about gods, religions and the so-called holy books. And I assure you that the said book is not just Islam bashing.
In these Forums,lots of People are posing as something else & writing hate messages against various religions.I think India have to be vigilant against these divisive forces who are hypocrites & cowards.Why anyone have to pose as a member of other faith & say bad thing about his faith.What is the motive.These people are only trying to create rifts between different communities.so beware of these elements & Ignore them.
RE:Stop Fighting!!
by Arjun Periyar on Oct 16, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail, If you want to stop fighting then stop tkinking of getting a place in Heaven by turning this beautiful earth into Hell.
RE:Stop Fighting!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 16, 2007 06:03 PM Permalink
Ok.Arjun..Your Religion is Best & We have lot to learn from you.Now u r happy.. But one Thing why hindus are converting to christianity for free meal and 50 rs a week from missionaries. do you know missionaries use hawala to send money to India. Police , ministers get bribe in that.
Dear NIKARWALA SDFH,,,, "DONT SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD", I know that you are paid Rs.500 per month from CHADIWALA CLUB.. But your effort will be in Vain for the following reasons.. 1) We know the greatness of Islam, more than you.. 2) Abusing another religion will not provide any fruitful results. You have to debate in a Postitive way to convert people. 3) We love Mohammed (PBUH) 1000 times more than our parents. 4) Islam is the lamp ignited by God, how can anybody turn off the lamp. If there is no lamp means there is no world. 5) Rediff has given us the Power to Mark Abuse of your Bull shit.. So pack your bags and do Toilet Cleaning that is 100 times better than what you are doing now... Hope you understand my Point.. HA HA HA ...
