India was never conquered..... We Indians gave India in platter to invaders,crusaders,colonial powers. Why? because we wanted to settle scores with each other. I never learned lessons from our history. Our memory is very short.... and we don't acre either. Its shame that most tolerent form Islam "sufisim" is attacked....
atleast I feel the only way out there is, not blaming each other, not blaming the religions... Every religion, be it from Allah or of human made, preaches love, peace (I donno what other religions teach, but not hatred and bombing atleast!!)... The way out of these prevailing conditions is, bringing each of the so called 'evidence' to light, to the public, display to the public and hide nothing..
If you remember, there were recent blasts in Hyd. and I myself saw the blast sites where people from all around poured in first rather than the emergency services, police etc.. What happens with this is most of the EVIDENCES FROM THE CRIME SCENE ARE VANISHED B4 THE POLICE/CBI/CID ARRIVES. If you'd a look in other countries, the crime scene/location is fully under patrol immediately with no civilian allowed.. This is where v the Indians are lacking... After everythingz vanished, the police/cbi/cid comes and works, only to find SIM cards, mobile phones etc... leading to blaming each other religions.
As well, the nation saw how the cases related to police are halted/vanished/stopped/dragged. Added to this, much political influence - be it religion or a scam, the press/media under stress. And most of time we've seen the police torture making people to accept UNDONE crimes..
If a person is found guilty in every possible way (will all evidences), then the straight forward punishment SHOULD be hanging in public so that everyone learns a lesson, be it a MUSLIM or not!
RE:the way out!
by sai on Oct 14, 2007 02:07 AM Permalink
you seem to sympathise with the criminals, u still seem to have a soft corner for them...look at the world,u seem to think all the worlds islamic terrorists were manipulated and are being punished for UNDONE Crimes... The blasts in hyderabad(at lumbini park) killed mostly (majority) muslims and also hindus,its a park where everyone goes muslims,hindus ,christians it was just an amusement park..The other blast at the same time in a restaurant killed both hindus and muslims,the softest corner for terrorists is dangerous for every human being ... Hanging people in public is an act of cruelty... whether u like it or not.
Removal of POTA has become an incentive for cross-border terrorism. Congress have gone overboard in appeasing the Muslim community. Appeasing Muslims in India is one thing, appeasing Muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh and other countries is different.
The formr CJI is absolutely correct in his views. Every nation, chiefly non-Muslim is a target of terrorist attacks in one form or the other. To repeal POTA was a strategy of the Congress to garner Muslim votes. It has back-fired. Several hundred Indians have been killed, mercilessly - who knows to which religion they belonged. The dead do not speak but their families certainly bear the burden. It has an effect on the Indian Muslim community who are in fear of retaliation. It is true that a large percentage of the community swear allegiance to the nation and are deeply hurt when such horrendous attacks take place. The Congress is responsible for partititon, for creation of POK, for release of 90,000 POWs, for creating disenchantment between communities
Y dont these fools get all the sim cards of this name...else the terrorist will use the the sim card from this name for the third time and the police will be very happy to establish a link b/w the blasts and start 'working in tandem.'
Islam is a religion fit only for Saudi's and their like minded Arab brothers. Other than a book in one hand and sowrd in other they have nothing.These arabs have just evolved from their animal nature to human nature.
Just caling a religion great/best...etc is not enough,one has to see how much philosiphy,art architecture and culture has come from that religion.The crap of Abhramic religion's is for every to see In Dharmic Religons enlightenment is the final Goal,In Abhramic's it is XXX haven and slavery to god.
RE:The fact is :
by hk on Oct 14, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
The only way out for muslims is simple to accept the fact that Islam is just one of the many man made religions and there is nothing great about it.
RE:The fact is :
by farid patel on Oct 14, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
Islam is not a new religion founded by prophet muhammad(pbuh) islam is there since the first man (Adam) set his foot on this earth. Islam means submission to the will of God in peace and sincerity.It is a way of life for humanity. God sent messengers to guide mankind with a message to Worship God alone, without any partners. A muslim is someone who submits himself to God and follow the commandments. Islam teaches us that this life is a test for hereafter. On judgement day God will decide the fate of people according to their deeds. Islam is based on knowledge and proof. There is not a single contradiction in Quran, Islam is in accordance with scientific facts. Islam is rational and logical way of life. Study islam from authenti sources ie Holy Quran and life of the prophet(pbuh)
RE:The fact is :
by sai on Oct 14, 2007 02:21 AM Permalink
There was no first man... God gave me a few instructions to write in his new book after bible and quran ,this is the next book... God said he is sick of the muslims and their mullahs ,who have created hatred among humans in the name of god...God said he will send all humans to hell if we dont kill all islam believers...He also said its the mullahs who need death first ,then the stupid brainwashed ordinary muslim people would automatically become humans and not remain muslims anymore... People who dont believe me should also be killed..this is gods order
RE:RE:The fact is :
by hk on Oct 14, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
Ur brain has been wahsed,before talking about science accept the fact that man has evolved from Apes,science has proved it beyond doubt.
anyway answer this :
Q) How did the children of Adam and Eve procreate,did brother and sister marry each other ????????
RE:RE:Hindu mentality in near future - FORECAST
by Rajeev on Oct 14, 2007 12:05 AM Permalink
Your thought is also matches with Militants, like Islam is the only & best religion. better u join militants. do not treat yourself as a Muslim but talk like terrorist.
terrorist is a terrorist either belong to Islam, Christ, Hinduism they need to be punished. don't support them on the name of Islam. does Islam say that kill the innocent people?
RE:Hindu mentality in near future - FORECAST
by Rajeev on Oct 13, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
Mr. Addu Khan, 1st you look inside your religion before blaming Hindu. How Muslims kill Muslims and that too in Ramjan month and one of the most sacred place.
Anyway this type of incident going to happen, Muslims created the terrorism for the world and now the terrorist started targeting Muslims also. It is the time Muslim accept the mistake and start fight against Terrorism.
RE:RE:Hindu mentality in near future - FORECAST
by Rajeev on Oct 14, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
So u wanted to say that the blast happened automatically. either the terrorist group not involved or muslim terrorist is involved? Why you are bringing the Hindu here, Hindu is involved in this one. what is the point saying that Hindu always suspect muslims?
It is the fact that the blast was done my militants and unfortunately terrorist follow Islam.... it is the time to unite all Muslims along with Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists to fight against terrorism. if we *incl. u) do not do that, then I feel u or I are not human being.
RE:Hindu mentality in near future - FORECAST
by anu on Oct 14, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
nice joke,now lets replace hindu with muslim and musalmaan with jew.
it hurt?some jokes are to be private and among the same kind.
this attitude that we are the best and the world is out to get us is the present problem.
I suggest the governments to place mobile phone jammers in all important holy places and people gatherings like cinema hall,auditorium,etc. Sim cards should be sold only under strict vigilance.there should be strict rules and guidelines before a SIM card is sold to a person.This is good in all ways.
use metal detectors,cctv cam and maintain them proplerly.Money spend on this is very very less when compared to human life.
Its waste to fight abt religion.muslims atr integral part of india.So stop the communal fight.We are only fighting from bc,ad ,before independe,after independence.we think of development at some time as well.
RE:Use technology and no fight between religions...
by eelamtigers on Oct 13, 2007 11:29 PM Permalink
communal fight james ? hindu's always react , no hindu will initiate a fight ? look into the history of communial riots n give advice to proper religion, don put every one under the scanner, n do try to take a high ground.
since centuries bramhins opperesses the people in india for superior power in society ,jews opperesed in middle east and europe for centuries why power is only reason then comes another idology communnism killed 1000000 jews in europe why power massecred for what? power so stop blaming each other
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by eelamtigers on Oct 13, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
it not the power its the idealogy, looks at religious books wrriten n the voilence content in it thats the source of trouble, religion is trouble, n one perticular religion islam is source of 90% of trouble.
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by Swaran Singh on Oct 13, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
When did communism kill One million jews? Ramanathan get it correct first without wasting time.
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by Attract Ivist on Oct 13, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
Hahahaha .. good catch ... i didnt bother to read his message due to his atrocious english :)
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by Swaran Singh on Oct 13, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
Brahmins were the warriors. The Thakurs of Sind were the most ferocious warriors who held Islamic Invasions for more than 50 years. It was Mohd Qasim the Barbarian Islamic Invader who succeeded in arroun 720 AD. He massacered almost all the warring hindus numbering to more than a million soldiers. Their women burnt themselves or were taken away to be sold or gifted away to Harems. Their children were taken away converted by force and sold in slave markets and for pedophilie. The only Brahmins who remained were the priestly class which did show their grudge against the other classes and which is rightfully exploited by Muslims and Missionaries against Hindu Brahmins. But the percentage of Brahmins is what?
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by p s on Oct 14, 2007 01:48 AM Permalink
Yes addu Khan, For every muslim baby born,, is me padosi ka hath hota hai..... na mard muslim.... ha...ha..ha.........
