RE:Arun Gandhi is right
by Vinay Gupta on Oct 09, 2007 10:02 AM Permalink
The statement of Mr Arun also show the kind of hate he has for those who r opposing sonia. Had Gandhi been there he would have tried to win the heart of Sonia baiter than to critisize them.
Arun himself is displaying his NON GANDHIAN character and doing voilence as per Gandhi values
RE:Arun Gandhi is right
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 09, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
Well she can get trained by Munnabhai in Ganghigiri ... big deal about Gandhian values. This country will be finished in 1 day if it takes that too seriously. Gandhian values are good for personal conduct - not good enough to run the affairs of state.
Dear Arun Sir, AS i think i am not be able to discuss the label of Sonia Gandhi or to the United nation whom to speak there or not.But the basic thing i noticed that she is representing nowadays to congress party and being the Head she was invited to address the same although the subject was related to Mahatma Gandhi whose surname resemble her's.But as other coloumnist said don't confuse with Surname and think in terms of Head of Congress party.I don't know much about what she delivered in speach if any thing you found low standard in that than that should be condemned.....So pls stop throwing stone over each other as it falls on us only as indian.....Deependra,Indore
Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj who was the first to drive away mughals, Portuguese from Goa, British from India ... is Our Father of Nation. I know there will be many takers for this comment, but truth speaks.
RE:Father of Nation
by Maharishi xyz on Oct 09, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Well Mr. Raj.. it is great to know your views but you need to have your facts right ans how a little bit of maturity at least when you go public....
To me, it does not really matter who is the father of the nation. But what really matters is who has done the real job. Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, if were so effective why were the British still there at the time of Mahatma Gandhi. Mr. Gandhi was a great soul who selflessly helped India achieve its independence by bringing the whole country together by non-violence.
Also, it is people like you, who fight for who is the father of the nation are the real culprits to the values of this country and cause more and more troubles in the country.
This is 21st century and we dont have to fight between ourselves.
RE:Father of Nation
by Marco Polo on Oct 09, 2007 09:56 AM Permalink
Is he Chatrapati given respect,what he truly deserves in Sonia's India? As far as I've read,she mentions only Nehruji,Indiraji,Rajivji in her speeches in all public functions.Why should we keep her there?Show her the door in the next election.
Let this lady be investigated from the time she landed in Indian soil to date.Afterall,Subrahmaniam Swamy wouldn't be inventing all the stories.
Most Indian men suffer from a severe inferiority complex with strong women and white color. Both are explainable. Most of the anger and frustration stems from here..not anything Sonia does.
If you notice most people there are no comments against her policies but things like use of name, etc. Arre bhai, she married Rajiv Gandhi, If she cant call herself Sonia Gandhi, i wonder what Prof. Gupta's wife calls herself.
RE:psychology behind anger
by Vinay Gupta on Oct 09, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
Now u have hit the nail. Your submission to Sonia is governed by this complex only.
Otherwise Idonot see any leadership or Gandhian Quality in her
RE:psychology behind anger
by Vijay Raman on Oct 09, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
Not my submission, your upset anger is governed by this. for me she is another Indian politician on the scen. My opinions on Sonia are she is very consistent and disciplined. She does tend to make some wrong decisions, and sideline people somewhat undemocratically sometimes. On the whole her peformance has been outstanding.
Sidebar : If you vote BJP, should I consider that you submit to Atalji and are hence gay ! What sort of a line of argument is this ?
RE:psychology behind anger
by Vijay Raman on Oct 09, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
She won a democratic election. Don't have the people of the country vote her and she will be out. you seem to avoid the fact that she won the election beating 'india shining' atalji's party. please acknowledge that. If a BJP woman campaigner had done so single handedly you would have made her a heroine. Sushmaji, for example. But then she too lost the election to Sonia
RE:RE:psychology behind anger
by siva prasad on Oct 09, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
Mr Vijay raman You people are spoiled brainly by studieng Makhalay Education.Congress has started detoriating after sonia entered the scene.You can see the natinal pole results in the past and and the feature.
When sonia won in bellary it is cogress which is ruling.all votes poled are bogus.looting the polling boothes is corgress heritage.Just see the the elections recently held in bellary.see how congress Defeated desaustarly.So always be open dont influence from the people like arjun,ambika soni, people like Christia cottary.
RE:RE:psychology behind anger
by siva prasad on Oct 09, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
If India Got Independence because of Gandhi after 1947 by his non violence .Nearly 16 countries all over the world got independence same time.Did gandhi role played there. see 2 nd world war is a gift to universe. after war britishers became helplees.Even you find this in british parlement speech.Gandhi has made all hindus spineless.By introducing satya graha ,hartals he spoiled the indian political system
RE:psychology behind anger
by Palakkadan on Oct 09, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
If your girl friend is british citizen who cares?.... stupid... stop your rubbish.... you mind your own duty.... Mr. Raman is absolutely correct
RE:psychology behind anger
by Vinay Gupta on Oct 09, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Now see your language. GAY. U shud think twice before talking about Gandhi. Is yr sonia also like u. If so then she too shud not talk about Gandhi. I think both of u are alike . So ashemadly both of u talk about GANHI!
RE:RE:psychology behind anger
by Marco Polo on Oct 09, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
Her wrong decisions and her senimental dramas have cost the nation enough.Let her relax and eat caviar in her centrally airconditioned 10,Janpath and let the sons and daughters of Indian soil govern us.If she is disciplined,she wouldn't have taken the nation to an election in 1999.Disclaimer_I'm no VHP,BJP Member or supporter.Her speech reading in Hindi was outstanding and her sarees are great for an old widow.
RE:RE:psychology behind anger
by siva prasad on Oct 09, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
My Raman what type type of you find in sonia.Convertig india into christian country.Printing crosses on two rupee and one rupee coins and making you to lift crosses with crorers of hindus.printng naked photos of ladies on brouchers of tourism. Questening the
entity of RAM.collobarating with U.S. and other Christian father counries to loot india by signing nuclear treaty.You know how much India is going to loose By treaty if it fails.8 lakh Crores.you canot save india even if generations of 100 crores do the sacrifice.
RE:RE:RE:psychology behind anger
by Marco Polo on Oct 09, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
she coming to power and bringing her son to the top chair(want to bet he has his eyes on the chair?) who proclaimed,'I'm Indian because my Mom is'.So does that moron mean his father's side was not India,they were British?The moron got into college not by merit but sports quota for shooting.Now he is coming to PM's chair on another quota,his family quota.Thrash this family in the elections.
RE:psychology behind anger
by kiainth on Oct 09, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
U wants proof then contact Karuna Nidhi & Company who was bihind rajeev's murder is close friend of this lady.
RE:psychology behind anger
by siva prasad on Oct 09, 2007 10:02 AM Permalink
What you said correct.
I am not understanding how these people own the names and people with natoinal image.If Mahatma Gandhi is just a grand father arun may be correct for his perverted and Psudo attitude.
But mahatma has made national property by calling him Father of the nation. arun Must see with open eyes How Sonia is Ruining India by Nation, Culture,by beliefs,by unity,....e.t.c.The add published is100% correctand Genuine
RE:psychology behind anger
by Marco Polo on Oct 09, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
Shut up you numb headed,before you brand all Indian me.Yes,we have frustration when this woman,Antonia Maino Gandhi takes the nation by the nose and rules us and bring up her GFN son for grooming.
What are the policies she has brought in? Please enlighten us.The only- Muslim upliftment policy? The N_deal with US? The destruction of Setu? The law for some of them to hold positions of profit even when they are paliamentarians?The previlege for Robert Vadra not to go through security clearence in airports?You name the good ones,if there are any.
RE:psychology behind anger
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 09, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
Vijay - the problem is not with her color nor with the fact that she is a woman. Indira Gandhi was nearly white and she was a woman and nobody really bothered. Its about the foreign origin. True - the middle class does not accept her but looks like poor and downtrodden don't seem to have a problem as the polls suggest. There is a good reason for that - for the disadvantaged - the difference between a foreigner and an upper caste person is not much. A foreigner, in fact , for them makes more sense because he or she is not in the oppressor caste category. SO while Sonia haters are correct in not accepting her - they must also realize that what is important to them is unimportant to the voters. They would rather have a foreigner who cares for them than an upper caste person who shuns and exploits them.
RE:psychology behind anger
by Bhaumik on Oct 09, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
Anurag, Leave Sonia alone, what the middle class cannot accept are the hollow pretensions of a few of the so called upper castes. Some of them have become victims of the sectarian propaganda of hate-groups like RSS and VHP.
And do not tar all upper castes with the same brush. May be 10 % of the upper castes fall for the anti-intellectual communal fantasy of the RSS. The rest are proud Indians like any of us.
Dear all brethern, While we are in our own mainland, we may fight amongst each other. But when UN invites anyone, as a representative of India, and the person, is bestowed that honour, then it is our patriotice duty to agree, with whatever is spoken at such august sessions.
The speech only was delivered by Sonia. The speech was very much scripted by our own Indians (Hindustanis, if you wish, so).
So who are the foriegners to speak against our country men. Respected Sonia ji, I may dislike your party, but once you were speaking as an INDIAN, I felt so proud. Remember the time Gen Pervez visited India. One of the Pak Journo, on live TV broadcast, commented a bit sarcastically, that, "Paki women, behave very well and more so she is a president's wife." To this Ms. Sushma Swaraj remarked, "every average Indian women also behave very well," and she repeated it thrice, driving the journo to silence. Regards and Jai Hind
Sonia Gandhi and Gandhiji have nothing in common.It is an insult to Gandhiji if you compare Sonia with him.As for the Ad, it did not say anything bad about Gandhiji.
Arun Gandhi is trying to transfer the hallo of Gandhiji on Sonia.It is sad that the Grandson of Gandhiji is acting as a chamcha of Sonia.He is showing the same dictatorial tendencies like Sonia.
RE:Sonia is not Gandhiji.
by Vijay Raman on Oct 09, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
What a stupid argument, Piyushji..are you a chamcha of atalji, because you express yourself.W%
RE:Sonia is not Gandhiji.
by Piyush Bhargava on Oct 09, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
Vijay Ramanji,If I am not a chamcha of Sonia does mean I am a chamcha of Atal.Only a Congressman than think in the way you are thinking.The Congress philosophy is- You have to be a chamcha of someone.They cannot think beyond chamchagari.
RE:Sonia is not Gandhiji.
by Prof R K Gupta-India on Oct 09, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
Indiara and her caln have been borrowing Gandhi sirname falsely and misleading people.It is mass public fraud since last 50 years.To encash on Gandhi goodwill by attaching to it.It is called piggybacking.Media has coined term nehru Gandhi dynasty.This is most unehtical and immorla terminology as Indiara has nothing to doi wioth gandhi and there is nothing like Gandhi nehru dynasty.how long the corrup0t congressmen make us suffer the pseudo dynastic publicity.We are fed up.In this country only three names are there."on birthday of rajiv gandhi, Indira meorial football was held in nehru stadium". Is not it crazy to name beautifyl connaught place as Rajiv Chowk ( Chowk?)removing the name of creator by a noin entity who was made PM just as he was from dynastic family rule forced on us.
We habe somany historical figures and greatmen inn india whose name could be used if at all we hated englishmen.But we speak english every day and study in it.Wear jeans and eat western food .But we dont like western names.
Now Mayawati ahs started naming every other things Kanshi ram.Where India is heading?Stop this nall if we can.
I see with amusement that there are more blocked messages than displayed ones.Rediff moderator seems to have some fears or some strange philosophy of publishing.Fearless journalsim is something every one can't have .Time of Goenka and Karanjia is gone.If you dont have guts why you run this feature.Let people express unless they use foul language.Why and how my postings were blocked? This is abuse of buttons in hands of moderator and psuedo journalism.Is rediff running on congress aid?
RE:Rediff should stop this section!censorship is regrettable
by on Oct 09, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
i agree with you in totality, the moderator misuses his block button here, at his whim and cause of his own mental block.
Blocking divergent views defeates the purpose of any board.
I have seen abusive messages displayed here, while my message with other side of a story were blocked.
The moderator did care to respond back to my email request to inform me the reason of blocking my message, that did not have any offensive or abusive content.
RE:Rediff should stop this section!censorship is regrettable
by David on Oct 09, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
rediff is owned (40%) by congress supporters from Vatican.
RE:Rediff should stop this section!censorship is regrettable
by Bhaumik on Oct 09, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
Guptaji,
You ask why some of your postings were blocked. They were blocked because they were really abusive and hate-filled, not unlike the Ad in NYT under discussion, almost as abusive.
Please think and express like a decent human being. By the way, what are you professor of? Was it genetics, or genealogy?
