RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Okay im back. so my understanding of christianity is that Jesus died for my sins. If i realize that i will get a place in heaven. if i dont i will not. So why does this basic concept bother you? there is 2 sides to the coin. you believe or you dont. if you believe then you will be in my understanding of heaven in the afterlife if not then hopefully you will be in whatever you believe in.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
HAHA HA.. I KNOW ALL THAT.. FIRST THING .. WE BEING HINDU RESPECT CHRIST AS A SAINT.. OFCOURSE NOT AS GOD.. WHO DIED FOR THE HUMANITY AND NOT FOR CHRISTIANITY. SECOND, THE GREAT LORD/GOD/ALLAH IS NOT A RELIGIONS PROPERTY. FORTHE LORD, ALL ARE ALIKE, LET IT BE HINDU/MUSLIM/CHRISTIAN. IT DEPENDS WHAT DO YOU DO IN YOUR LIFE. BEING CHRISTIAN DOES NOT GIVE YOU A RESERVED SEAT IN HEAVEN. NOBODY EVEN THE CHRIST CAN NOT BREAK THE RULES OF THIS UNIVERSE CREATED BY THE LORD. WE BELIEVE ALL RELIGIONS ARE FOR GUIDING THE HUMANITY TOWARDS SPIRITUAL. JUST BY BEING SO AND SO DOES NOT ENSURE YOUR SEAT IN THE HEAVEN. THAT IS WHERE IS THE BASIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AND HINDUISM.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
BECAUSE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT ONLY THEIR PATH IS CORRECT. ALL OTHER PATH ARE WRONG.. THEY TRY TO CONVERT PEOPLE. AND HENCE IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE WORLD. MUSLIMS ARE DOING THAT WITH A GUN AND CHRISTIANS ARE DOING THAT WITH THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS NOW.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
ONE MORE MISCONCEPTION: CHRIST DIED FOR YOU AND SO WHATEVER YOU DO.. YOU WILL BE IN HEAVEN, IF YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST.. WAKE UP MAN.. ALL YOUR THEORIES ARE WRONG..THIS WORLD IS BASED ON ACTION/REACTION. IF YOU WILL DO BAD, BAD WILL COME TO YOU. IF YOU WILL DO GOOD, IT WILL COMETO YOU. ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY , IT IS ALL THE MISTAKEOF ADAM WHO ATE THE WRONG FRUIT ETC.. COME ON. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FORTUNE. DON'T BLAME YOUR FOREFATHERS AND POOR CHAP ADAM FOR YOUR MISTAKES. YOU DO NO BELIEVE IN INCARNATION. THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU AJAY AND INDIAN, EVEN THOUGH YOU WANTED TO BE IN USA AND HAVE SO MUCH ATTRACTION TO THE WHITE SKIN.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
GOD IS PARTIAL FOR YOU AJAY.. HE DID NOT MADE YOU WHITE LIKE YOUR OTHER CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. WHY?? DON'T BLAME YOUR FOREFATHERS.. IT IS YOUR FAITH. WHY COULD NOT YOU BECOME GEORGE BUSH JR.? WHY ARE YOU IN POOR ECONOMIC CONDITION COMPARE TO BUSH..SO PARTIAL GOD , HUH?? ANY ANSWER?
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Firstly in my reply i mentioned my belief,but you keep stressing on the words "our hinduism". dont try to use a sympathy card on the other readers, speak for yourself. by being born a christian i am not ensured a place in heaven, for a place i have to believe that Christ died for me. This is what i believe, I do not expect you to believe it. But, may i ask why you are trying to impose that my belief is WRONG?
Secondly, do not try to tie Christianity and Islam together, they are not the same.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. SYMPATHY WITH WHOM?? CHRISTIANITY AND MUSLIM ARE SAME ON ONE THING.. BOTH WANTS TO SPREAD THEIR RELIGION LIKE COMMUNIST. IF YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST. WE RESPECT YOU. BUT CHRISTIANS DO NOT STOP THERE. THEY WANT OTHER TO FOLLOW THE SAME. THAT IS WHY DOING MASS CONVERSION BY GIVING MONEY. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THAT WHO BELIEVES IN CHRIST WILL ONLY GO TO HEAVEN. IF REQUIRED I CAN SURELY GIVE YOU REFERENCES FROM BIBLE.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
IT IS TOO LATE FOR ME NOW.. SO IF YOU ARE A HARDLINER, WE CAN SURELY DEBATE TOMORROW. IF NOT, I AM SORRY. I HAVE NO INTENTION TO HURT YOUR FAITH. I BELIEVE FAITH IS IMPORTANT. WE ALL ARE THE CREATION OF THE SAME GOD AND HAVE EQUAL POWERS. ALL ARE EQUAL IN THE WORLD OF GOD. IT IS WE, HUMAN BEINGS CREATED DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
HAVE NO INTEREST OR NO INTENTION TO HURT ANYBODY'S FAITH. WHAT YOU SAID IS WHAT WE BELIEVE. LIVE AND LET LIVE. BUT NOT ALL ARE LIKE YOU. IN FACT YOUR ARE PROBABLY THE FIRST CHRISTIAN I HAVE SEEN SO FAR, SAYING THAT. I HAVE BEEN IN CHRISTIAN SCHOOL. I MET MANY PEOPLE, BUT NOT A SINGLE PERSON SAID WHAT YOU SAID. THIS DISCUSSION NOT FOR YOU.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
No its all good. Religious discussions generally never reach an end. Forced conversion is Wrong and people who practice it are not worth it. We will surely catch up some time on these discussion forums, if we agree on things we will smile if not we will wear out our keyboards ;-)
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
ALL THE CONFUSION ON YOUR SIDE SIR.. I HAVE BIBLE HERE WITH ME.. DON'T WORRY . AND HAD LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH EVANGELICS HERE.
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
HA HA HA. YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A HARDLINER NOW..IF YOUWANT TO HELP ANYBODY IN THE WORLD, PLEASE HELP WITHOUT LOKING AT HIS RELIGION, CASTE, NATIONALITY. BUT NO. CHURCHES ARE GIVING MONEY TO POORS AND FORCING THEM FOR CONVERSION. ALSO, IN MY AREA I HAVE SEEN THE FORCED CONVERSIONS WHERE POOR PEOPLE ARE TOLD THAT YOU WILL GET HEAVEN ONLY IF YOU TURNTOBE CHRISTIANS. THEPEOPLE WHO DO NOT MEET BOTH END THINK , A BETTER IDEA, ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE MONEY AND OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE HEAVEN.IS THAT THE REALITY?? IS IT NOT THE CHEATING IN THE NAME OF GOD? WHY DO YOU WANT TO LIE? WHY DO YOU WANT TO SPREAD LIKE COMMUNIST? SAME THING WHEN MUSLIMS DO, YOU WOULD CALL THEM TERRORIST.. IF THEY ARE VILLAIN LIKE TERORIST, YOU ARE TYPICAL LALA (IN HINDI MOVIE) KIND OF PEOPLE WHO GIVE MONEY AND TAKE MUCH MORE FROM THEM. SELLING THE RELIGION ON THE NAME OF GOD
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
IF THERE IS NO COFUSION, WHY THE HELL YOU NEED TO SPEAD CHRISTIANITY INSTEAD OF HUMANITY?
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
References. well you just quoted what i said and then added mass conversion. I feel you are a confused person who is looking for a fight based on some secondhand information that you are trying to cling on too.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
I am not an evangelist, I am just a simple dreamer who wishes to achieve the small desires that I have. I am a true Christian and as I said I believe what I believe and I respect you for your religious beliefs, just don%u2019t criticise my faith.
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Ok looks like you are only pushing for a verbal conflict. Fine. You said conversion. There are 2 types, ie conversion by faith and forced conversion. Forced conversion is absolutely wrong. Conversion by faith is absolutely right since it is a persons own decision. You mentioned conversion my money. 2 sides again, the person who is paying money and the person who is taking money, can you tell me in your opinion why both these people are doing what they do and what do they benefit.
MUSLIMS CREATED NEW SHANKARACHARYAS IN USA... HA HA HA. THEY ARE HAPPY IN GARLANDING THEMSELVES.. WHAT A FUN... THAT SHANKARACHARYA TALKED FOR ATTENTION OF MEDIA AND UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY ASKED HIM A SINGLE QUESTION.. HA HA HA .. LET HIM COME TO INDIA AND SAY.. ZAKIR NAIK IS FOOLING ALL MUSLIMS AND ENJOYING THEIR ATTENTION AND MONEY
Ignorant hindu hates Islam, but their hindu guru, Shankaracharya have great respects for Islam. ITS TIME FOR EDUCATED HINDU BROTHER TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT FROM THEIR RELEGIOUS GURU. Please refer to following video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zasuy9FBA
RE:Shankaracharya Speaks About Islam!!
by ASHOK on Oct 08, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Islam as religion and Islam as hijacked by Islamic Fundamentalist are two differrent things. Shankracharya is talking about Islamic Religion.
He says if you eat Egg and remember God 5 times a day than nothing wrong in it.
But what about Killing Your own people in ( IRAN IRAQ war) >> Did Islam preach that ???
What about current strife between Peltinians.
What about Talibans vs Pakistan forces.
( Right now I am talking about Islamic fundamentalists vs rest of the world >> That is another story)
RE:Shankaracharya Speaks About Islam!!
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 10:11 AM Permalink
HEY MAN.. YOU ARE FOOLED BY YOUR OWN PEOPLE.. THEY ARE NOT THE REAL SHANKARACHARYA ETC.. PEOPLE LIKE THEM CAN TALK ANYTHING FOR 100 RUPEES.. YOU FOOL..
RE:Shankaracharya Speaks About Islam!!
by Tushar on Oct 08, 2007 10:11 AM Permalink
Hindus don't listen to their Dharma-gurus like the way muslims listen to the Mullahs, who have a lot of political power in Islamic societies. And, I don't think most of the Hindus in India hate either Muslims or Pakistanis. What they don't like is the obsucrantist and medieval practices adopted by a lot of subcontinental Muslims.The words like "Kafir" and "Fatwa" do not have any place in modern multi-ethnic, multi-religious societies.
MUSHY PROVED HIMSELF TO BE FROM DELHI... HA HA HA. HE HANDLED CORRUPT BENAZIR AND BRAINLESS NAWAZ SHARIF VERY CLEVERLY.. HE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CUNNING PERSON IN THE PAK HISTORY, HE HANDLED ALL POLITITIONS AND USA BETTER THAN ZIA UL HAQ.. TO SECURE HIS PLACE..HE IS A MOJAHIR.. (FROM INDIA) AND BENAZIR IS SINDHI. SIDELINED THE HARDLINER NAWAZ SHARIF NAD POR PEOPLE LIKE IMRAN KHAN ETC..BUT ONE THING IS SURE, THE DAY MUSHY IS OUT OF PIC, PAKISTAN WILL BE CLOSE TO THEIR END.
RE:MUSHARRUF PROVED
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 09:02 AM Permalink
AND LIKE ZAKIR NAIK SAID, FATHER WILL PUNISH THE CHILD... I MEAN USA WILL PUNISH THE BAD SON PAKISTAN
ZAKIR NAIK is a Islamoc Facist, who believe Islam is the ONLY religion, all others are false.
It has been widely written by mainstream media, how his followers were involved in many jehadi, islamist, terrorist activities in and around Mumbai in last few years.
Few other groups involved in these sort of activities are : Raza Academy and Al-Hadis group.
Noted columnist Friendman has described these islamist facists as follows:
" Islam%u2019s self-identity is that it is the most perfect and complete expression of God%u2019s monotheistic message, and the Koran is God%u2019s last and most perfect word. To put it another way, young Muslims are raised on the view that Islam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0."
RE:MUSHARRUF PROVED
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
slam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0." ---- HA HA HA.. EVEN THOUGH HE IS RIGHT IN A WAY..HE IS FORGETTING THE BASICS AGAIN.. 0.0 HAD MANY REVISIONS ACCORDING TO THE CHANGING WORLD.. WHILE ALL OTHER HAD THE SAME OLD COPY OF 1000 YEARS.. WE HAVE THE BROADER VISION AND ACEPTED JAINISM , BUDDHAISM AND MANY GREAT SAINTS.. LIKE GURU GOBINDSINGH ETC.. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE 0.0, WE HAVE A REVISED COPY AND EVEN THOUGHTHEY ARE 3.0 , IT IS THE SAME OLD COPY.. TEAR IT DOWNMAN..READ A NEW THORY OR GET ROOTED OUT
RE:MUSHARRUF PROVED
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
slam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0." ---- HA HA HA.. EVEN THOUGH HE IS RIGHT IN A WAY..HE IS FORGETTING THE BASICS AGAIN.. 0.0 HAD MANY REVISIONS ACCORDING TO THE CHANGING WORLD.. WHILE ALL OTHER HAD THE SAME OLD COPY OF 1000 YEARS.. WE HAVE THE BROADER VISION AND ACEPTED JAINISM , BUDDHAISM AND MANY GREAT SAINTS.. LIKE GURU GOBINDSINGH ETC.. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE 0.0, WE HAVE A REVISED COPY AND EVEN THOUGHTHEY ARE 3.0 , IT IS THE SAME OLD COPY.. TEAR IT DOWNMAN..READ A NEW THORY OR GET ROOTED OUT
General Musharaff if wipes out all terrorists activities it will help him and Pakistan long run. Terrorism is a business of Political Parties not of commomn man. Other than Terrorisam if other jobs which are constructive are created and offered to Taliban People it will help them. For survival of human being - basic needs - can be fullfilled. One who has faith in GOD - ALLAH - needs no bunglow, cars, etc but some food, shelter, cloths thats all. You will be more close to ALLAH. Not by killing people - but by sacrificing your life for others. But Political People will brain wash those and turn them to Terrorists by paying lucrative amount.
"911" was designed by USA, they wanted an event like "Pearl Harbor" which would give them a reason to attack middle east. The real intrest was to control the area for Oil & to become an undisputed Super Power. Scrificing 3000 for this mission was not a big deal for them but it was a big enough deal to show off to the world and to justify their attacks. Politics is a bigger thing than what we imagine.
RE:Politics is a bigger thing than what we imagine.
by ASHOK on Oct 08, 2007 08:57 AM Permalink
You mean Mohamad ATTA was born To BUSH !!! Do not talk rubbish. It was a well planned Al Qaeda move. Now they are getting cornered, you can throw up all sorts of Explanation.
Pearl Harbour was not US planned either. Japanese cam all the way to hit USA.
Japanese paid heavy price by receiving 2 A Bombs in a weeks time, only than they relented and surrenderred.
After WWII it was USA, dropping free food aid to Germans as well as Japanese.
US financial help to rebuild both the countries is unprcedented but Surely it was not USA who asked Japanese and Germans to Gang up and threaten world peace.
Even Today USA is trying its best to bring Israel / Hamas / Hiszbollah / Al Fatah on a common platform.
US tried and was Sucessfull in brokering peace with Israel vs Jordan & Egypt.
Why rest of the Islamic world do not try for same thing with rest of the rogue groups.
USA brought Libya to progressive path.
So better it is to understand the reality and spread a message of Co Existence instead of wasting OIL MONEY.
I am OIL Industry Man and I hate to see people misusing it.
RE:Politics is a bigger thing than what we imagine.
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 09:15 AM Permalink
ASHOK, G2 IS RIGHT. IT CAN NOT BE A PLAN OF A PERSON LIKE BIN LADEN ALONE TO TAKE A BIG STEP LIKE THIS. HE AND BUSH'S FAMILY ARE STILL VERY CLOSE, THOUGH THEY DECLARED NO RELATION SINCE LONG.. BUT IT WAS A PLAN BETWEEN USA NAD BIN LADEN. THAT IS THE REASON, THEY DO NOT WANT TO FIND BIN LADEN.. IF THEY WILL CATCH HIM, USA ARMY WOULD NEED TO GO OUT OF GULF, WHICH OFCOURSE USA WILL NOT LIKE TO DO..
RE:Politics is a bigger thing than what we imagine.
by ASHOK on Oct 08, 2007 09:19 AM Permalink
Well anything is possible, I am not GOD to know the truth. If that is the case than Islamic nations are fools and getting destroyed through a sinister game plan.
Islamic countries should atleast stop their internal fight
RE:Politics is a bigger thing than what we imagine.
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 09:29 AM Permalink
ASHOK, DON'T WORRY, NOTHING WILL AFFECT YOUR BUSINESS.. YOU CAN START A NEW BUSINESS IN BIO-DIESEL
Al-Lat the moon GOD of Pagan Arabs is most merciful god,She(Al-Lat) the presiding diety of Profit Mohammedans tribe later became Allah the ONE real GOD ...
The most merciful AL-Lat had sent 70 momins to "jannath"( islamic heaven)to enjoy the 72 virgins and 20 pearl boys and wine
WHAT A PATHETIC PERSON HE IS....A SMALL MINDED MAN COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT SRI RAVISHANKAR WANTED TO SAY. SRI RAVISHANKAR TOLD THE WHOLE HINDU PHILOSOPHY INTHE BEAUTIFUL WORDS IN BANGALORE. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BRINGING HUMAN BEINGS TOGETHER IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR RELIGION ETC.. BUT POOR PERSON COULD NOT UNDERSTAND AND WAS STILL TALKING ABOUT CONVERSION. HE FINALLY SAID, HE THINK IT IS HIS DUTY TO TELL OTHERS TO JOIN MUSLIM COMMUNITY LIKE THE FATHER TRY TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF A CHILD.....BUT MR ZAKIR, WHY DO YOU THINK, YOU ARE THE FATHER? EACH PERSON ON THIS EARTH THINKS, HE IS THE FATHER AND REST OF THE WORLD IS HIS CHILDREN.. THIS IS THE SAME THING HILTER WANTED, NEPOLION WANTED, BIN LADEN WILL SAY THE SAME, GEORGE BUSH WILL SAY THE SAME, CHRISTIAN POPE WILL SAY THE SAME. WHO WILL DECIDE, WHO IS THE FATHER AND WHO IS THE SON? UNLESS MUSALMAN AND CHRISTIANS, UNDERSTAND THE REAL TRUTH BEHIND THE UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD, THE WORLD WOULD BE ALWAYS A DANGEROUS PLACE... PAKISTAN IS SURELY GOING TO BE NEXT GERMANY OR JAPAN TO BE DESTROYED SOON.. AND SO ARE OTHER GULF COUNTRIES LIKE IRAN ETC... BOTH MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS THINK, GOD IS THEIR PROPERTY AND BEING A MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN THE LORD WILL TAKE THEM TO HEAVEN... HOW FOOLISH AND IRRATIONAL THINKING IS THIS.. THE BASIC PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE..ALL LIVING / NONLIVING THINGS ON THE EARTH ARE THE CREATION OF THE GOD, IS REALLY MISSING FROM BOTH THE RELIGIONS. THE DAY WON'T BE FAR, WHEN BO
RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 08:34 AM Permalink
THE DAY WON'T BE FAR, WHEN BOTH THESE RELIGIONS WILL START FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER IN THE NAME OF GOD..THE LORD IS SMILING LOOKING AT THE POOR CHAPS..OFCOURSE HIS OWN CREATION..
RE:RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 08:36 AM Permalink
SEE THIS FOR REFERENCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1B29xLSNk&mode=related&search=
RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by ASHOK on Oct 08, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
Yes I also find Zaki Naik more intrested in claiming Islam is the GREATEST of all, has tried to interpret Kuran with a modren day scientific findings.
I do not find him talking about UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD at all.
If anyone has a reference to any such message from him than please share.
RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
WELL.. I DID NOT EXPECTED ANYTHING ELSE. BUT TO MY SURPRISE, EVEN CHRISTIANS THINK I THE SAME LINE, WHEN I DISCUSSED HERE IN USA........ THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT HINDUISM IS THE BEST PHILOSOPHY OF THE WORLD AND THAT WE INDIANS ARE SO FORTUNATE TO UNDERSTAND IT.. NOBODY IN INDIA WOULD WANT TO TALK BAD ABOUT OTHER RELIGION, UNLESS ATTACKED.... WE NEED TO DEMOLISH THE ONE BIG ISSUE.. THE CASTEISM AND SURELY HINDUISM WILL BE EVEN BETTER...
RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
Do let us know what you discussed in the US and what exactly Christians think . May i request you to type with the caps lock off as it make it harder to read.
RE:ANSWER TO ZAKIR NAIK
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
SURE SIR... ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, ONLY THOSE WHO ARE FOLLOWING THE CHRIST WILL BE TRAVELING TO HEAVEN AND REST OF THE WORLD WILL GO TO HELL.THOSE WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF CHRISTIANITY WILL NEVER GO TO THE HEAVEN. IN HEAVEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR FAMILIES, WILL NOT HAVE DEATH AND ILLNESS..ALL SUCH THINGS.. THEY SAY THE SAME TING AS MR ZAKIR SAYING.. IT IS THEIR DUTY TO TRY FOR CONVERSION.. TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE TO CHRISTIANITY. ETC ETC..
RE:Its Mush who helped, gave shelter to Taliban in Paki-land when they were fleeing Afghsnistan
by ASHOK on Oct 08, 2007 08:19 AM Permalink
Yes that is right MUSH created a comfort zone for fleeing Talbanis and is now facing them.
But do not forget that it was During Benazir tenure, Talibans got a support, initially finance were from UAE and than US took the tab. ofcourse China enjoyed most by selling light arms.
Also notice >> MUSH & Benazir seems to be driving future of Pakistan.
RE:Its Mush who helped, gave shelter to Taliban in Paki-land when they were fleeing Afghsnistan
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Oct 08, 2007 08:27 AM Permalink
Exactly. Talibans were created during Benazir's regime (read the most authentic book on Taliban by Paki journalist Rashid)/
It was Benazir who gave big boost to Kashmir Jehad when she was prime minister as well.
Only psuedos in India have hope that Pakiland will stop jehad someday:)- Its not going to happen. Never.
