RE:Throw northie parties out of Karnataka
by TJ on Oct 06, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
Common guys, we are all one. Unity in diversity! We can achieve lot more when we are together!
RE:Throw northie parties out of Karnataka
by Gopal Krishna on Oct 06, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
Kannada and Karnataka is being gradually chipped away in the name of useless slogans like "unity in diversity" and ideologies like "secularism" and "hindutva". Come to Bangalore, none of these are helping the cause of Kannada and Kannadigas. The sooner we realise that these are cunning brainwashing techniques perpetuated to confuse us, the better it is for the survival of our culture.
RE:Throw northie parties out of Karnataka
by TJ on Oct 06, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
I'm a Gowda and living in Bangalore. Tell me - without outsiders do you think Bangalore would have improved like today?
D Gowdaji is not acting like an ex-Prime minister but like a typical street politician. we all know how he became P.M. Laloo in a meeting 1996 told the coalition parties "kissi gaddhe ya goda go bitta do". The coalition immeditely took goda as "gowda" and thus we had Deve Gowda as the P.M. Since then after he lost the prime ministership and can only pity him. DGowda and sons owning crores and crores of property are still not satisfied. And want to grab as much as possible berofe relinquishing power to BJP (if Deve Goada does it) As an ex-prime minister, he is expected to air his comments on international and national issues. On the contrary most of the time his concern seems to be real estate in and around Bangalore, so much so that he crusaded the exit of eminent people from important agencies. The people of Karnataka lost the services of Mr Jayakar Jerome soon after Mr Deve Gowda formed the government with Congress and then Narayana Murthy.
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Pathan on Oct 06, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
they want to move from congress to bjp and againg bjp to congress, congress are like slave wifes whenever dirty gowda and sons want they are ready to sleep and whenever they kicked go away, congress should have some shame for last time what lowda and sons did. gowdas vote for only lowdas like JDS
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Pathan on Oct 06, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
they want to move from congress to bjp and againg bjp to congress, congress are like slave wifes whenever dirty gowda and sons want they are ready to sleep and whenever they kicked go away, congress should have some shame for last time what lowda and sons did. gowdas vote for only lowdas like JDS
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Prem Mohan on Oct 06, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
I do not agree when you say that Md Deve Gowda does not act like an ex-PM. Have you ever listed the PMs of India? Here are a few names: Chandrashekhar, I.K.Gujral, Charan Singh and His Mistress's Voice (Dr Manmohan Singh). Mr Deve Gowda is in good company.
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Gopal Krishna on Oct 06, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
The point is they all dressed better than gowda and were fairer too! All this hatred is motivated by looks and colour of skin!
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Moo Glee on Oct 06, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
You are such a dumbwit, gowda neither benefitted kannadigas nor northies.
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Prem Mohan on Oct 06, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
Correct! That's why we prefer Congress over BJP. And Congressmen speak better English, too.
RE:RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by Prem Mohan on Oct 06, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
Sorry, it should not be Md Deve Gowda. It should be Mr Deve Gowda.
RE:This is what happens if you put a gaddha as Goada.(gowda)
by avi on Oct 06, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
No you are not wrong, he is MD (Moahmmed) Deve Gowda only. Like Moahmmed he is power hungery.
What kind of agreement are we talking about here. Was this agreement made in court ? Does it have any LEGAL implications ?
This concept of Government sharing is uncomstitutional. I would like to see someone sue both the parties and the governor to allow such a ridiculous "AGREEMENT".
We vote for a candidate and I want that candidate to rule, not a "COALITION". Let me be clear, we did NOT vote for any COALITIONS.
There needs to be a LAW passed against POST-Election Alliances.
PLease do not support either parties in this case. It is just that one got more greedy than the other. Shamefull
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Kumar Kalyan on Oct 06, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Imraan Bhai, You wrote a lot. Leegal, Agreement, Coalition, Law, Post election, greedy, shamefull. Need to think of it.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Vish on Oct 06, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
I don't see anything bad if two largest parties come to an agreement in case of lack of absolute majority to provide a stable government. These parties represent the majority.
Here, issue is very basic. It's matter of principles and public conduct. If you agree to something, you cannot just run away. The bar should be exceptionally high for the leaders.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by imran patel on Oct 06, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Vish, Here is the problem.
Assume I vote for Party A because Party A has a certain vision for the country that I share. I dislike Party B as it is has different agenda.
I vote for party A for its principles. When this party A has an alliance with Party B, it will compromise its principles. Hence diluting my vote. I do not want that.
I am voting for a principle for necessaryly a stable government. I don't want a communist party that is stable (Based on coalitions).
Stabe governments that are moving the country in the wrong direction is not good for our nation. We need parties with good policies in power. Not parties who are ready to compromise principles to stay in power.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Vish on Oct 06, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
I think, political parties have a solution to this problem. They have used it in past with great success. They call it CMP ( common minimum platform ) or something similar.
Sure, coliations should be based upon agreed principles and programmes not based upon to just capture power. Opportunists should be punished by voters.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by imran patel on Oct 06, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
CMP limits the governments ability to make decisions. Look how the congress is struggling w.r.t. the Nuclear Agreement because of the Communist Part. CMP Translates in to Minimum Progress.
There is no accountability left with the government. Party A says we could not do it because one of our coalition partners opposed it. We can do it only if we have full majority. The looser is the NATION and its citizens.
Coalition governments are like joint faimlies. They look good on paper, but end up in a disaster.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Kumar Kalyan on Oct 06, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
Imraan Bhai - Good thought, But our politians are under par and we need a big change in that.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Raj Chaitanya on Oct 06, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
I totally agree with you on this point that there needs to be some legislation on coalition otherwise it is a mockery of democracy.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by Prem Mohan on Oct 06, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
Correct! We should support only the Congress Party headed by Mdm Sonia Gandhi and Mr Rahul Gandhi.
RE:Cheaters Cheated by Cheaters...
by siva kumar on Oct 06, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
In the name of alliance so many unconstitutional things are going on in our country. As this suits every party at sometime or other nobody is really interested to stop this. But think for a moment Imran patel, BJP was voted by the people and emerged as the single largest party, But by the oppurtunistic alliance of JD(S) and Cong it was not allowed to come to power. Then they called BJP as a secular party,,,, but BJP is a party recognised by the election commission and the constitution to exist and contest elections. Not only that, it is a democratic set up and the very people of Karnataka have voted for BJP to be the single largest party. But BJP was not allowed to form a Govt and two parties with less number of MLAs than BJP formed the Govt and made the single largest party to sit outside as opposition. Is it constitutional or logical? Is it not fooling the voters and against democratic principles? There is no proof for any party to be truely secular. Because all of them have aligned with BJP when it suited them and called it a communal party when not required.For this there in enogh proof. Even VP Singh, Mulayam , Mayavati or Karunanidhi, all had an alliance whenever they required BJP.Now it is Deve Gowda and his son. Now the question is kumarasamy has enjoyed chief ministership with the support BJP by giving some promise and casting aspersions on BJP now is immoral, against human qualities. It is just that and otherwise no pfunction pure ethics now a daysarty can
RE:Synonymous with cheating
by TJ on Oct 06, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
Mahesh, do you know about Yedi??? My close friend's uncle is Yedi. Yedi killed his own wife by pushing her to a well. Can we say ,for not killing - don't do "Lingayat" on me?
RE:RE:Synonymous with cheating
by Mahesh on Oct 06, 2007 06:46 PM Permalink
If you watch carefully I didn't use "Gowda", I only said "gowda" (just a word not referring to caste). This happens all the time. After watergate every scandal is ending with a gate. By the way, I'm not a Lingayat and I don't hate Gowda's in general either.
RE:Synonymous with cheating
by TJ on Oct 06, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
Mahesh, sorry if u r hurt. I'm a Gowda and was hurt from ur statement. Though I'm a Gowda I never like Devegowda's political moves. Yedi should have given dy CM but I think Anath kumar did something and backstabbed yedi.
RE:Synonymous with cheating
by Mahesh on Oct 06, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
No problem. Apologies for hurting your feelings. Personally I hate caste system and hence no question of streotyping any caste.
The time has come to emphasise the importance "Kannadtva" over "Secularism" and "Hindutva because neither of the latter promise security for Kannada and Kannadigas. It is time to build strong regional parties that can represent Karnataka at the centre.
Why doesnot the people of Karnataka give this father son duo absolute majority to sell all the land in Bangalore under their rule. Just fulfil their greed till they have no soil left for their last rites. Mannina-Maglu....
The most efficient family planning is folllowed by the Gowda family. While joining with BJP for getting power, kumaraswamy gowda betrayed and back stabbed his brother, and avoided a verbal duel with his notorious father devi gowda who was houting at the top of his voice that kumara alliance was not approved by the party. Now, after 20 months of power, and its attendant benefits (bellary mines, mysore corridor and a host of other contracts) the family is reunited and foul mouths BJP who helped them to stab themselves. Everybody that only the father gowda is a scoundrel, but now we all know that the whole family can split and unite to hoodwink kannadigas.
