The time has come to emphasise the importance "Kannadatva" over "Secularism" and "Hindutva" because neither of the latter promise security for Kannada and Kannadigas. It is time to throw northie parties out of Karnataka and build strong regional parties that can work for the cause of Kannada and Kannadigas and represent Karnataka at the centre.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
What has "Kannadatva" party done to karnataka other than blore,mysore and hassan?? I went to murudeshwar regularly. Each time I go there roads are pathetic. nobody cares. Where as we have 2 expressways to mysore. Roads till hasan are sooo good. We will soon have a airport to hasan as well. Look byond we have other parts of ktka too.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by Gopal Krishna on Oct 06, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
The reason being these national party MPs are meek lambs in front of their northie dominated high commands. They are toothless in the parliament, I am yet to see a single MP stand up and debate for the state's interests. Look at SP, RJD, TDP, DMK/AIADMK. They have a lot of advantage when it comes to bargaining resource allocation for their states, while we are taken for granted! It is time we had strong regional parties so that the entire state can develop.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:37 PM Permalink
Makes sense!! Vatal paksha and JDS are 2 options we have. But I prefer the well next to my house :-)
RE:RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by Gopal Krishna on Oct 07, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
You should take to the well, while the rest of us can come with strong alternatives.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by vishal sharma on Oct 06, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
Unless these stupids think as Indians first and Kannadas last, they will continue to be inpediment for the growth of this motherland. May god give them sense. Surpising to see even today also these idiots talk like northie and southie.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by Vijay Pai on Oct 06, 2007 11:51 PM Permalink
Dear Gopalkrishna sir!.. please stop talking like an idiot..You have just seen what this JD(S) ( Jai Devegowda (sons) )has done..It's we kannadigas who are going to pay for elections and this is what you think which is needed to make "jai Karnataka", then you just go n checkup yourself. Kannada grows and remains strong by US..by not these politicians. You just be committed to Kannada's work..that's sufficient.
RE:Throw Northie parties out of Karnataka
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
silly regional parties can participate in the state elections but they should park their a$$ in their own state and not come to the centre. That's for national parties like Congree,BJP etc..
VERY GOOD DAY DREAMING OF BJP. BEFORE DEMANDING THEY SHOULD HAVE RECOLLECTED WHAT AMBICA SONI SAID "WITH TWO LADIES, NO ONE CAN MAKE ME RESIGN". DONT HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, READ THE LINES, THATS ENOUGH. DO WE HAVE ANY MORALS IN DEVA GOWDA (GADHA) OR JDS? NEWS SAYS CONGRESS IS OBSERVING. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS CONGRESS IS SITTING WITH A BEGGING BOWL LIKE A BEGGAR. CONGRESS WILL STOOP DOWN TO ANY EXTENT TO SEE BJP DOES NOT COME TO POWER IN KARNATAKA. IN FUTURE, BJP WILL ASK FOR THE TERMS FIRST OR MUCH BETTER BJP WILL RULE FIRST AND THEN TRANSFER POWER TO OTHER UNSCRUPULOUS PARTY. THERS IS NO PRESIDENT RULE. IF ANY ITS ITALIAN RULE IN INDIA.
What morale did the BJP have? For almost a month they begged Kumarswamy. They tried every trick to get the power. When Kumarswamy showed them angutha, then they resigned.
Do not forget that BJP shared the bed with JDS for 20 months and do not expect people to belive that BJP did it in the national interest!
RE:RE:President's rule in BJP
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
For 20 mnths Kumaraswamy had no problems with BJP. All of a sudden when BJP is supposed to take over the chief ministership, it has become communal and an untouchable party. JD(S) is now soliciting the congress and trying to seduce them. TJD(S) shld be booked under the immoral activities act.
RE:President's rule in BJP
by BRIGHTMORNINGSTAR on Oct 06, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
I fully agree with you. Let us see an Italian rule in India. May be the thinsg will be better then. Indians ruled India for more than 50 years and most part of the country now looks as good as Uganda or Somalia. Therefore let us try something different. May be Italians can do better than Indian dogs. BJP is dead man. What happend at Karnataka seems to be the last nail on BJP's coffin.
RE:RE:President's rule in BJP
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
then why dont pseudosecularists like you leave for Italy and let us Indians mind our own business.
RE:President's rule in BJP
by BRIGHTMORNINGSTAR on Oct 06, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
you dont have to tell me where to go in my life. i know how to take care of my life. by the way, you are right. i did see indians mind OWN business for 50 years. All that they did in 50 years of power is - minding OWN business. Good for you - Now you have started thinking the way I think. Therefore let us invite Italians to rule us. Or call the british back and apologize to them for asking them to leave . may be they will consider coming back to this stupid land where people are lynched on the road side like animals
When PV NArasimhaRao was involved in so many corruptions and even he was called "King of corruption" nobody bothered because he was a Hindu. For Sonia, even without any corruption charges, people are cribbing - because is from minority. Gandhiji's dream was different :-(
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:52 PM Permalink
Syed, Dont behave like a baby. Hit back without bein Anti Indian. You have same rights to call him what ever you want.
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by Narayan on Oct 06, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
Tipu Sultan was a Jihadi and was fighting the English only 4 his own reasons and not perhaps for Indians or Hindus. As is the tradition for Secular media his real history along with other Mughals will always be mis-informed to the people. Only BJP had that courage to skin that chameleon Tipu Sultan.
Can I make a point here? So long as the Rani of Jhansi was getting her pension, she did not utter a word against the British. When the Britishers stopped paying her pension & de-recognized her adopted son, she rose to fight with the British. What will you call her?
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by BRIGHTMORNINGSTAR on Oct 06, 2007 11:35 PM Permalink
My friend, what you have mentioned about Rani of Jhansi can defenitely be true. It is the same with most of the so called indian leaders and freedom fighters. Gandhi was an UNSUCCESSFUL LAWER in South Africa and he was good for nothing. It was easy for him to fool the uneducated crowd in India. His diplomacy was a BIG ZERO. He fought with all other politicians of his time. he never cared for his family. kasturba gandhi has told this in public. He wanted 2 young girls as "walking sticks" !!!!!! When somebody saw these 2 wemen on his bed, gandhi told him "do not misinerpret my most innocent act". Hope I do not have to write about another great nehru and his affairs with vicerouy's wife !! These are the indian leaders about whom we study in the text books !!!!!!!! Do we have to searh more to find answers for the pitiful condition of the country ?
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by Narayan on Oct 06, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
Quite contrasting cases. Cant b compared. Tipu was no different from a typical Mughal who crushed and torchered Hindus.
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Tipu's end was designed by a Brahmin (Poorniaha) with the help of British. What do u call him?
RE:Tipu Sultan is being insulted again
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
haha Here comes the truth. Thats exact what tipu and rani jhansi were. Not the freedom fighter cr@p we are asked to beleive.
RE:WHAT IS RAM TOOL ?
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
better than all the fuss and ruckus u guys created with the release of "the Da Vinci code" and the release of the album "Christ Illusion" by the band "Slayer"
RE:WHAT IS RAM TOOL ?
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Who killed Ghandhi , it is BJP and its associates , who kill muslims and christans in gujarat /orissa it is bharath jalao party supporters. so who ever supports BJP and allies he is a communal , R u communal people ?
RE:WHAT IS RAM TOOL ?
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
BJP has been ruling rajastan and MP or even UP. Just because communal riots happened in Gujarat doesn't men u can use the same yardstick everywhere. What about m umbai riots...who was ruling Maharashtra then? Congree or BJP?
RE:WHAT IS RAM TOOL ?
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
BJP was the ruling party in Gujarat....they didn't create the riots!!! Now u r contradicting urself!! Great!!!!
RE:WHAT IS RAM TOOL ?
by Narayan on Oct 06, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
Can't you see a desperate Hindu right which is basic in every country is under threat in the case of Ram Setu. And you call ppl doing this very survival act of last defense as Communals. I wish Bethlehem shud be given to Jihadi Palestinians. Shut ur Vatican up on this.
BJP, its advantage for you now. Capitalize and win the election with two-thirds majority. The so-called secular forces are not really secular forces. They just use the phrase 'secularism' just for the purpose of political gains. If BJP comes to power in Karnataka, the state will florish. We have seen enough of Congress and jokers JDs. All the very best BJP.
RE:Good Luck BJP
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:50 PM Permalink
Kamal sab, BJP will never get majority because they are very less communals like you in the country . when communals like you become 2/3 india will be in pieces. pray india remain united.
RE:RE:Good Luck BJP
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
When BJP comes to power India will be one big strong piece.Not the 100 different pieces which it is currently in cos of vote hungry congress.
Lingyats in North Karnataka and Vokkaligas in SOuth KArnataka is not working out - to clear elections results. So divide Karnataka and you'll see the clear election results.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by kraft on Oct 06, 2007 10:43 PM Permalink
With the help of "Secular" Bas--rds, the terrorosts are burning the Country. There is no difference between Jihadis and Secularists.[Both are AntiNational.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
We have seen 60 year of independence , kraft dont u want see 600 more year of independence. bharath jalao party will break our country in pieces by using RAM tool
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:54 PM Permalink
Syed you see this, Tipu Sultan was a Jihadi and was fighting the English only 4 his own reasons and not perhaps for Indians or Hindus. As is the tradition for Secular media his real history along with other Mughals will always be mis-informed to the people. Only BJP had that courage to skin that chameleon Tipu Sultan.
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
Then in ur opinion we shld vote for Vatican party aka Congress. maybe we can make the Pope India's next PM!! I forsee a future where India will be ruled by Italians and maybe if lucky by Colombians...carry on Rahul!!!
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
When PV NArasimhaRao was involved in so many corruptions and even he was called "King of corruption" nobody bothered because he was a Hindu. For Sonia, even without any corruption charges, people are cribbing - because is from minority. Gandhiji's dream was different :-(
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Austin, You may call me Rawan Singh or whatever you like as I have no access to you otherwise. But so called moderates like you wont be able to contribute to the good of this nation. BJP or no BJP but what has Congress done for 55 years.
RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
We live in 21st century dear Hell boy not like your communal thinking people. Have you seen hindus were killed , what you see you believe dont put crap
RE:RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
You can call me any names as u like. The day kashmiri hindus are given justice i will stop supporting BJP.How can it happen in a hindu majority country? This is what I see when the mozzy population inches towards 30-35%. That days not too far at the rate they are breeding.
BTW just to be clear. I dont have anything against Christians. I think they hv done good to the soceity.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:29 PM Permalink
Austin , you probably did not see my earlier message. Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:13 PM Now I understand you. Killing of Graem Staines and his two little boys Timothy and Mathew was a barbarian crime and that son of a monster Dara Singh should be put in front of a firing squad. I will lead the shooting squad. That puts whole Hindu nation to shame. But BJP has nothing to do with that. Gujrath was also regrettable but it was a tit for tat action I suppose. Gandhi was killed by a splinter party Hindu Mahasabha man Godse. BJP has never advocated voilence. Yes If it comes to chose betwwen BJP and my conscience...I will save Timothy and Mathew even if I have to give my life.
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
Rawan sab , have you gone out of india once ? have heart of india outside what they say about us . do you think Bharat jalao party has any contribution. 55 year of ghandhi principles are paying off. Manmohan ji the PM of india may god give him good health is leading from the front and we are proud to be non communal like you. we will win and BJP supporter will loose.
RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:24 PM Permalink
Its true I have never left my village but I know quite a bit of other countries specially Paris & London. I dont dislike Manmohan Singh either but i firmly believe that Congress is a corrupt party. Real development started when Vajpai became the PM of India. He put India on tracks and when BJP comes back it is going to pick up again. Sa suffit Monsieur!
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:24 PM Permalink
"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane."
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
Hows that Austin, Which mathematic you are using. BJP is only party which can save India and even Christians. Even Muslims are welcome if they behave like Indians. Only a few Fanatics are spoiling the name of Muslims but BJP sure is not anti INdia. Whatever I welcome your views.
RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:59 PM Permalink
What we see is what we believe . BJP has only thought of distruction , check out Orissa episode where a pope and family was burnt alive . Gujarat kill muslims and brought shame to india. who is responsible it is only one party Bharath jalao party, who killed Ghandhi it is BJP ?
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
Convert Hindus forcefully,someone reacts , chee U so communal.... Kill 50 hindus for no reason , hindus reacts ,chee U so communal....
You dont want me to go back to mughal era when 80 million hindus were killed by the very accounts of mughal kings. And our commie historians still project them as seculars, With secularists like you who needs communalists.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
Now I understand you. Killing of Graem Staines and his two little boys Timothy and Mathew was a barbarian crime and that son of a monster Dara Singh should be put in front of a firing squad. I will lead the shooting squad. That puts whole Hindu nation to shame. But BJP has nothing to do with that. Gujrath was also regrettable but it was a tit for tat action I suppose. Gandhi was killed by a splinter party Hindu Mahasabha man Godse. BJP has never advocated voilence. Yes If it comes to chose betwwen BJP and my conscience...I will save Timothy and Mathew even if I have to give my life.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by mohini on Oct 06, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
sm krishna the guy who sold govt land for peanuts to his cronies, secularists have only sugarcoated themselves to loot hte country in the name of secularism
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 10:21 PM Permalink
BJP member's (Pramod Mahajan) son was using 1000 rs currency for taking the drugs puff.
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink
You are shit scared of BJP. You want to divide Karnatka. You want to destroy India and convert everybody. All your views have one common poisonous feeling. But India was the only country which survived Islamic Invasion. Only place where yu did not succeed. Rest were all converted uto spain......
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
at least he looked and dressed as a corporate....and he also looked secular...gowdas and their lungis and their "kinglish".....god has saved k'taka and got us rid of bharat jalao party!
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
When BJP didn't spare Tippu Sultan (who is supposed to be the first few freedom fighters) do you think common man like us can live safely if BJP rules Karnataka?
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Narayan on Oct 06, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
Tipu Sultan was a Jihadi and was fighting the English only 4 his own reasons and not perhaps for Indians or Hindus. As is the tradition for Secular media his real history along with other Mughals will always be mis-informed to the people. Only BJP had that courage to skin that chameleon Tipu Sultan.
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
I did not say he was evil. But he was a conversionist. Using force to convert people is the way of barbarians. And you see how he did it to christians. I dont consider Tipu a freedom fighter of India.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 10:51 PM Permalink
Maybe you have not read the stroy of Tippu Sultan. If Tippu Sultan was evil Karnataka people would not be remembering him today.
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
Another case of historic distortion. He was obsessed with Jihad.Jihad was his motivation, not the country. He was a big forceful converter. Everyone knows about how catholics from mangalore were tortured and converted in sakleshpur. Freedom fighter my A$$
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Syed on Oct 06, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Because of your (and your fellow BJP supporters) terror thinking we are scared of BJP :-(
RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
Tipu Sultan....was a freedom fighter? but whose freedom? Jinnah was also a freedom fighter but he fought for the freedom of Muslims only and broke India to make Pakistan.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
Rawan singh sab , i dont think all ur crap will be understood by moderates. communalism only leads to break up. this is gift of british , i think we all should kick out BJP supporter considering them as anti indians.
RE:RE:RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
I am not BJP but you are scared of BJP and those bloody terrorist who blast the innocent public...children, women ,old all you too... that is Jihaad for Kashmir...killing Indians in Hyederabad.....Come on Syed !
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
Wishful thinking?? Dont forget BJP's seats in Ktk is increasing with each elections.
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by Austin Dsooza on Oct 06, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
Hellboy,, BJP is going to hell and they will ur partners there. they will destroy our secular fabric on india. all the curse of secular india is with bharath jalao party. they will never win one seat in kk
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hrishikesh on Oct 06, 2007 10:51 PM Permalink
Then in ur opinion we shld vote for Vatican party aka Congress. maybe we can make the Pope India's next PM!!
RE:Victory for Secular forces
by hellboy on Oct 06, 2007 10:44 PM Permalink
Very optimistic you are!! Pseudo seculars. Congress has only one aim. Divide Hindus on caste lines
The family party JD-S lead by the bastardly DG and HDK.. Come on ppl of Karnataka .. teach them a lesson!!! Its because of them that the comman peaple of the state are being forced to bear the huge expenses of an untimely election!!!!
