BJP havent learned their lessons properly, begging muslims for votes, praising Jinnah as secular, and infighting within the party wont bring them into power. They should wait patiently and stood by their ideology.
RE:coalation politrics...
by Gopal Krishna on Oct 06, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
It should stop pretending to be other than what it is - Brahmin Janata Party. It cannot represent all Hindus.
RE:coalation politrics...
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
What a pity! All of you think that Brahmins are only the temple priests who have kept Dalits out of temples. I do support the view that temples belong to all classes of Hindus and Brahmin Pujaris should be thrown out. But history shows that the Thakur warriors of Chach Selaij who defended Sind in 700 AD were the fiercest battle men India has ever Known. More than a million of them were beheaded by Islamic invaders over a period of 2 years. Over 250,000 young girls and young boys taken away to Arabia to be sold in Slave markets. Majority of Budhists refused to fight as they were to peacefull. Onle resistance which came was from Brahmins and Kshatris. And then BJP....how is it Brahmin. George Fernandes, Sinha, Jaswant Singh, Modi, Naqvi.... Dont mislead each other please.
Bjp had done right by withdrawing the support and this should teach lesson to former prime minister and his son as they are power hungry and after enjoying power for 20 months backstabed bjp by not adhering to agreement. i am sure people of the mysore state will understand the tactics of the duo and give appropriate answer to them if election held today
RE:Fooled
by SANJAY on Oct 06, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
Tit for tat for BJP, they slept with Kumarswamy for 20 months just for getting power after dislodging the congress government. Its BJP at fault. Good job by Kumarswamy.
RE:Fooled
by Shekar Rao on Oct 06, 2007 07:59 PM Permalink
Wonder what you would say next if your pseudo-sec Cong-I went and had oral s*x with HDG and HDK next for the remaining 20 months. Good job then, Kharge, huh?
All parties love to paint BJP as a communal party but it is a fact that all parties whether CPM, Congress, DMK, JDS or anybody else are all communal as they are busy seeking Muslim & Christian votes on the basis of religion.
RE:Why?
by Public Int on Oct 06, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
Correctly said dear. CPM & DMK are the worst party, baseless party. Need to hang them till the end of death than only our India would be improved.
first make pakistan and saudi arabia secular countries and then talk of secularism in India
Please answer these questions for yourself
There are nearly 52 Muslim countries.
Show one Muslim country which provides Haj subsidy.
Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India?
Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority.
Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister.
Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a 'fatwa' against terrorists.
Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. have in the past elected Muslims as CM's, Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim - majority J&K?
Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and madrasas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loud speakers that there is no God except Allah?
When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura And Kashi?
Why Temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, TamilNadu or UttarPradesh, to have Articl
RE:Muslims?
by RKrishna on Oct 06, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
I agree no more, dude let these countries have democracy first before they are secular. Never ever trust any muslim as they not trustworthy.
RE:Muslims?
by Madhu Sudan Sarma on Oct 06, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
These points raised by you are excellent. By the same token I have seen some replies abusing all muslims. Let's not do that. We have had great muslim leaders in the country who participated in freedom struggle like Maulana. We had President Abdul Kalam, Jakir Hussein. Even in bollywood we have so many revered heroes who are Indians to the core. We are against the politics who play to get the votes on basis of religion but not against muslims, who are patriotic and breathe India.
RE:Muslims?
by Sameer on Oct 06, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
First of all There is no need to reply the above bcoz its irrelevelant, For your kind information there is only one Hindu country in the world and that is Nepal, where hindus are fighting hindus and for your information Nepal is not giving subsidy. India is a secular country for yr information and these politicians come to power on our votes so if they spend some money on us than what happen, you people are all BJP supporting people so dont worry if Secular parties are spending some money on us bcoz they came to power from our votes, dalits votes, secular hindus votes, and all minorties votes.For why J&K is different you have to study history what was the deal during Kashmirs submergence to India. Even Bal Thackerey has proposed Maharashtra has to be for the Maharastrians and the influx has to be stopped. Temple funds which temple funds have been utilised by others.And for your information Arab and muslim countries are killing the muslim terrorist, dont you see the news.Pakistan, Saudi and all arab states are example. And by talking about uniform civil code you have proved you are a RSS and BJP supporter so dont worry about what secular parties are doing.
RE:Muslims?
by Karan Sharma on Oct 06, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
You are full of shit. Not a single Muslim leader - religious or political - has ever denounced the killings of innocent civilians in the country by terrorists. Why? Quite simnply because they agree with ewith what the terrorists are doing. They live in India and then shit in it's face only because of people like you ably supported by people like Lalu,Mulayam, Gowda,Maya and other Muslim ball-suckers.
RE:Muslims?
by Madhu Sudan Sarma on Oct 06, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
Sameer, Rajendra never said India is a Hindu country. What do you mean by on "our votes"? You are again saying our votes, dalit votes, secular hindu votes etc.The spending on "you" is not justified based on religion. It is justified if spending is based on the economically backward class. Not based on religion or whether they are majority or minority. The submergence deal of J&K never said there cannot be a Hindu CM .If you think Hindus are fighting Hindus in Nepal then the same thing is happening in all the muslim countries you mentioned. So we Indians should not be led by such religion based talk. We know we got this freedom based on sacrifices of great leaders across all the all religions. We should not allow these petty politicians divide us and look for prosperity of all irrespective of religion or any other division. If you are living in a secular country do not look for separate laws & provisions to only one religion. I live in US and the laws are uniform irrespective religion here. I agree there may have been minor aberrations or racism here & there. But if you look at the larger spectrum, things are uniform for all. We pray such uniform treatment is brought into India also and not based on religion for the benefit of petty politics.
RE:Muslims?
by Sameers on Oct 06, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
It is for Pakistanis and Saudis to decide. What Huj subsidy- It is only concession in ticket fare. When such large number of people travel to same destination it is natural that they ask for concession in fare. What special rights are there for Muslims in India? Can you spellout ? In India Presidents are made because their views have no authority or value. No need to declare fatwa on a crime. Crime is crime no matter who did it. Anyone killing innocents should be punished here and hereafter befittingly that is our belief. In India CMs are elected not made. Why any should be intolerant about Muslims praying in this country. Are they committing a crime. Remember when we Muslims pray we pray for the welfare of our motherland India which includes all people living in India. You need not have to beg for anything. Just prove your argument then everyone will be convinced. Who said temple funds are used ? We beg dont use temple funds on who you dont like. Different schools have different uniforms. Regarding Kashmir you should better ask Maharaja Hari Singh. We Muslims In India want Kashmir to be just like any other state in India.
RE:RE:Muslims?
by Public Int on Oct 06, 2007 05:50 PM Permalink
There is no answer to this. Mr. Rajendra - These all are created by Congress ( *ted with Nehru)
RE:Muslims?
by Santhosh on Oct 06, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
Very Very though-provoking and well researched points dude..Good one..I fully agreed with your views...
RE:Muslims?
by Bala.S on Oct 06, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
Fantastic. all mind blowing facts. No bloody politician will think as they depends on the minority votes. In TN Karunanidhi said in the meeting " WHO IS RAMA, IS HE A BE HOLDER ".... i want to ask does he have guts to ask in the same place WHO IS MOHAMMED, WHO IS JESUS as this century now one can claim that they saw Jesus, or Mohammed or Rama.... Why discretion on hindus???
RE:Muslims?
by Public Int on Oct 06, 2007 06:03 PM Permalink
Stanley was the son of great Karunanidhi an Idoit. By name he looks like Christians. And this idiot Karunanidhi is the Son of B**ch.
RE:RE:Muslims?
by Sameer on Oct 06, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
First of all There is no need to reply the above bcoz its irrelevelant, For your kind information there is only one Hindu country in the world and that is Nepal, where hindus are fighting hindus and for your information Nepal is not giving subsidy. India is a secular country for yr information and these politicians come to power on our votes so if they spend some money on us than what happen, you people are all BJP supporting people so dont worry if Secular parties are spending some money on us bcoz they came to power from our votes, dalits votes, secular hindus votes, and all minorties votes.For why J&K is different you have to study history what was the deal during Kashmirs submergence to India. Even Bal Thackerey has proposed Maharashtra has to be for the Maharastrians and the influx has to be stopped. Temple funds which temple funds have been utilised by others.And for your information Arab and muslim countries are killing the muslim terrorist, dont you see the news.Pakistan, Saudi and all arab states are example. And by talking about uniform civil code you have proved you are a RSS and BJP supporter so dont worry about what secular parties are doing
RE:Muslims?
by Sunil Agrawal on Oct 07, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
It's amazing that you term everybody as RSS man, who has this kind of question in mind.
A person from J&K can become PM or president of India, but vise-versa is not true.
RE:RE:Muslims?
by Sameers on Oct 06, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
It is for Pakistanis and Saudis to decide. What Huj subsidy- It is only concession in ticket fare. When such large number of people travel to same destination it is natural that they ask for concession in fare. What special rights are there for Muslims in India? Can you spellout ? In India Presidents are made because their views have no authority or value. No need to declare fatwa on a crime. Crime is crime no matter who did it. Anyone killing innocents should be punished here and hereafter befittingly that is our belief. In India CMs are elected not made. Why any should be intolerant about Muslims praying in this country. Are they committing a crime. Remember when we Muslims pray we pray for the welfare of our motherland India which includes all people living in India. You need not have to beg for anything. Just prove your argument then everyone will be convinced. Who said temple funds are used ? We beg dont use temple funds on who you dont like. Different schools have different uniforms. Regarding Kashmir you should better ask Maharaja Hari Singh. We Muslims In India want Kashmir to be just like any other state in India.
RE:Muslims?
by nandhu kumar on Oct 06, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
Guys talking in rediff will not solve the problem fo real india/hindustan/barath 1.we should vote ,on election time. 2.Please am worked in so many elections, i know, how our indian socity is corrupted..as in election point of view, i know how good candiated are sueering for money... 3.Please come on hindu guys, organise a webpoertal, dont waste time,,, we have to start now... 4.first we based group discussion. 5.Isuues of real poeple,caste system and humtalition , he have to stick with our lable as hinus,language is diff, not based on lang 6.then as per district wise organistaionof around 560/disticts in india. 7.then surely we can solve the real problem 8.leave the issues of muslims.. first we have to save the hindu society from karunadhi,mulayam,karatha,lallu,devgpwda,and their gurdian sonia and group.. 9.so guys we dont have time to worry about muslims, we will first create make life of our hindu brothers.. 10.we 85% hinuds will solve our problems, then we talk about others, we have to make postive move, then negative will be in our control...
RE:RE:Muslims?
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
Nandhu Kumar jee, You are very constructive person. Its a brillian idea to form a web party of Bharat. But think of what way can we proceed. Prepare a manifesto and share it with others. You will get good response. All the best
RE:Muslims?
by Swaran Singh on Oct 06, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
There were 24 percent hindus in Bangladesh in 1947 now only 9 percent left. There were 7 percent hindus in west Pakistan now only 1 percent left. There were 500,000 thousand sikhs in Afganistan in 1947 today only 300 hundred left. And you can not say Muslims have decreased in India. How is that? Let us think a bit this way...... And Hindus dont consider you Qafirs.
Why is the word 'betrayed' in quotes, Onkar Singh? Is it Rediff policy to put that word in quotes wherever it occurs? Or is it a bit of novelty you added to the story?
