It's unfortunate from the S.C, when Kerala Govt. and Karnataka are not hearing or obeying the order from suprme court, they didn't tell anything about that, but now they are giving a wrong signal to T.N people.
We are all almost lost faith in supreme court order.
RE:It's unfortunate
by wani bhardwaj on Oct 01, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
No, SC is correct. In Mumbai, one national party and a state party had to give penalty for defying the court ban. But in Kolkata it could not. May be no one approached the court for taking action against the organizers of Kolkata Bandhs
RE:It's unfortunate
by Jeeva Jaikumar on Oct 01, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
Bandh is a waste of money, time and manpower. why dont you accept that and go with SC. Why do you have to lose faith in SC?
will any one answer these questions. 1. Ramar had ruled india or lived 1,75,000 years ago. All the known civilization are only 6000 to 8000 years old. during this period only man started to know about the nature and started to use for his benefit. all the known elements, like gold/iron/copper etc were the known to man only during this period. these are scientificaly known facts. But, raman had lived 1,75,000 years ago. the people at that time lived vary happily. They also knew the rocket/aeroplane technology. They were using high technology to produce bombs.That means petroluem or nuclear technology were the inventions of Indian. Is it beleivable. Then why india is so much lagging behind the western countries. If man is so much civilzed 1,75,000 years ago, then why the present day indians are very poor.
2. King Ravanan was living in Srilanka. Srilanka and India were two seperate land mass and seperated by pak straits. when there is no satelites/radios/phones etc, then how he knew about Mrs.seeta, who along with her companion were living in present day madyapradesh.
There are millions of peoples in this country living below poverty lines. Please allow them to live like you. Allow the india to progress.
RE:RE:will any one answer these questions.
by Raj Anna on Oct 01, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
Progress not at the cost of killing a rich heritage and culture.. Moreove you have ways to progress without killing the traces of heritage..Good that you have questions. I am referring to simple logic here..Look at the difference between river Ganga (Ganges) at Gangotri and the same at Culcutta, you have clue..Look at the changes that are happening for last 100yrs. And it is the study, not a straight answer.
It is unfair parties like BJP and AIADMK for making sethu issue into political tag. And I also criticize those who want to dismiss the DMK govt. presently doing very well in TN. Believe it or not today TN is prospering in all sectors. Whether it is IT, BT, agriculture, and employment opportunity. It%u2019s all in growth story from Karuna Govt%u2019 strategies. Big MNC%u2019s cos, world bank and many more have set-up their offices and Companies at TN. Today Chennai is even known as Detroit of Asia. And all companies flooded TN during the reign of Karuna. And lot more happening in TN. But it is unfortunate few of political parties bringing the Ram and sethu issue and blog whole of the economic growth of TN and India. I also wanted to know what AIADM have done in previous reign when their were in power. Always discouraging the MNC cos when they come to TN for setting up their cos and even disrespecting our Presidents and PM many times. In today%u2019s political scenario of India concern every parties have and- .
I do critize Karuna for uttering some unwanted and nonsense words against Lord Rama on sethu issue. Therefore henceforth he should be very cautious before uttering words on Gods. Whichever may be the religion. Therefore only mistake is uttering of Lord Rama. Rests are OK then AIADMK rule. Please do not make an issue. Let us continue the Ram sethu project and prosper India.
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by Cricket s on Oct 01, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
Yes, TN has made progress in the last 10 years. That is in spite of JJ and KN...not because of them.
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by dada on Oct 01, 2007 06:24 PM Permalink
no.. it is only because of DMK and MK.. Nothing was happened during JJ's period
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by Vasantgopal on Oct 01, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
If you are Dada of ganguly's fan club then I can understand your ignorance of TN. Jaya brought in Hyundai, Ford, Mitsubishi, Mahendra & BMW. Earlier MGR got MRF, Rane, AMCO & Dunlop. DMK signed in Swaraj-Caparo and Nissan-Peugot, while Congress years rule brought in Standard, Enfield, TVS and TAFE tractors. In other industries DMK did get Dell,Sony-Ericson,Samsung while Jaya got Nokia. They had their share of failures too- Jaya lost VW, MK lost Microsoft to AP. So while DMK did get in a lot of companies (not just because it was part of centre) you must be terribly biased not to give your devil- Jaya her due! And despite political vindictiveness etc, TN is one of the best administered states in the country as per surveys. And that includes both DMK and AIADMK rules. Although their styles were different and both depended on favourite bunch of IAS officers there is no evidence to suggest that either one was a lesser administrator! Let's stick to topic and in terms of anti-hinduism and communal propaganda, Mu Ka is a downright winner!
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by ZULFI HAR on Oct 01, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
TN is prospering bcos of high tech skilled man power..not bcos of Climate or other external reasons.Thanks to KK for standing by the reservation.backward class ppl are consider him as their guardian..TN is only state where there is parity of wealth..Those who talk of division based on caste had not dropped their caste name from their name...Look at TN no one has their caste name...
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by Cricket s on Oct 01, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
Remember DMK has been part of the central govt for close to 10 years now. What did K'nidhi do since 1969? build a bunch of rowdy culture. JJ is no different either. TN did make progress under JJ too ......but both have done nothing to infrastructure improvements. Both were interested in building wealth for themselves and their relatives.
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by raghu nath on Oct 01, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
Cricket while comparing in all aspects. we can say DMK ruling if much better then AIADMK. I do agree there is some extent of Rowdisms are found DMK. But in AIADMK can found all the bullshits idiots falling under feet of AMMA. And act like SWAMY MAADU and silently loot all the money.
RE:DMK is better then AIADMK
by Cricket s on Oct 01, 2007 07:42 PM Permalink
I dont have any favorites man. Even DMK fellows fall on MK's feet. Besdies that MK practices castism in the form of developing any new leaders and relying on his relatives for the future of the party. That is nothing but a form of castism ...that is what people for 1000s years did. Preserving what they know and passing on to only their kids and thus developing a form of a caste system.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 06:15 PM Permalink
and % of people supporting a terrorist organisation called LTTE also, if you can ?
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
I proabaly know too much about them :-) The name of the son of V Prabahakaran is Charles.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by APS on Oct 02, 2007 12:22 AM Permalink
But Sad thing they don't have jobs in TN. For a coolie Job to IT job they have to migrate outside.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Dharmesh Patel on Oct 01, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Cape Comorin,
What a waste of education in Tamilnadu. Eventhough, it is more literate state then Gujarat, they elect a filmi actor as their CM. They build temple of Filmi actor and doing prayer of them........ They can't find job in their state so, they migrate to other state (Mostly, in Gujarat) of India to earn their bread butter. Gujarat has produced a leader like Gandhiji, Sardar Patel, Narendra Modi and industrilist like Dhirubhai Ambani, Karsanbhai Patel and list goes on. Gujarat also enjoying presence of the World Class Institute like IIM, NIFT, NID on it's soil. What Tamilnadu has produce??? leader like Karunanidhi........ Majority of Tamil people can't speak our officially declared national language Hindi.... What a waste of education........ shame on the people like you
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
not only actors, but scriptwriters, who are well beyond their use by date.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
% of central minister arrested in midnight ? % of ex-cms packed to prison in midnight ? % of people thinking that the stars of movie world are heroes in real life too.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Cricket s on Oct 01, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
If some 70 DMK volunteers are set up on fire then you would have seen something worse than a Godhra. Why burn of Sun's news paper office and kill three innocent people? TN culture is good but DMK and ADMK dont represents true TN culture or its people. The DMK and ADMK have done a great job of developing rowdy culture int he state
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Vasantgopal on Oct 01, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Please... even Badal and Amrinder arrest each other, so what? So long as it does not affect common man's life, just treat it as entertainment, which is why they need free TVs...how is it a reflection of education level of electorate? Atleast in TN there are no aya Rams and gaya Rams (defection culture), there is stable 2 party rule and no Shiv Sena or CPM like hooligans. And Tamilians support human rights in SriLanka and not LTTE. There is a clear distinction. Majority in TN have NOT forgiven Prabhakaran for killing his fellow-tamilian leaders and beloved Rajiv. Anyway, let's stick to topic and not start Anti-Tamil or brahmin-bashing here. Karunanidhi as part of central govt has no business instigating communal violence and ignoring supreme court.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
Karunanidhi's actions are perfectly understandable once you make the assumption that the crook is a closet christist.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
Yeah. For public consumption he is just an Athiest/Rationalist. However, the way Sonia Gandhi has allied with a party accused of murdering her hubby, the doubt lingers on.
Dravidianism is practically a cult like biggers ones which are often mistaken for being religion. While the bigger cults strive for world dominance and mastery over everything, Dravidianism strives for eternal servitude to those striving for mastery of everything.
Hence the deferential behaviour of DMK towards Asad Madani and others. This also explains why Karunanidhi goes on with his abusive behaviour about Ram. This is in the DNA of cult to abuse non-members and non-masters.
RE:TN - a fast developing state
by Cape Comorin on Oct 01, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
Still you could not tell me your state. you guys cannot accept the truth for truth is always bitter for you.
The SC of this land has been made a laughing stock, a non-entity by the Cong-UPA cretins, which has never respected anything or anyone anyways - they have already mutilated the constitution, so now they are finishing the job by emasculating the SC. The Supreme Court must now issue arrest warrants for the entire TN DMK govt, starting with that cretin Karunanidhi, for if this selfish, power-hungry scumbag is allowed to so openly spit on the SC with impunity, then calling India a 'secular democracy' would be The Joke of the millenia - just goes to show Indian democracy is one huge farce, and the Cong toads have made it so.
RE:TN govt snobs SC, enforces bandh
by dada on Oct 01, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
What about BJP Allied Govt in Karnataka. Where were u monkey when they defied SC in cauvery judgment.
RE:TN govt snobs SC, enforces bandh
by sylesh gopan on Oct 01, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
try to get a life somewhere else if you cannt use proper language you 'dada' !
RE:RE:TN govt snobs SC, enforces bandh
by APS on Oct 02, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
Karnataka has never defied Supreme Court Order however harsh it is. What karnataka has went aginst are illogical orders of Kaveri Tribunal, but supreme court intervened and made Karnataka release water. Any how River Kaveri is the daughter of Aryan sage Agastya, why you want her in dravida land.
No doubt that RAM SETHU IS MAN MADE.Otherwise how to explain the fact that Natural Extension of the Land on the Indian side is EXACTLY joined to the Natural Extension on the Lankan Side? Also this is the SHORTEST POSSIBLE between the two lands. If it is 'Natural" one could as well assume a "any house in a city " is Naturally formed ,that is,if you calculate the probability and Coincidences in this case .
Again,according to reports that came in Rediff in July end,the chemistry/constitution of the boulders found on the Sethu does not represent that of the surrounding marine geology. The boulders have constitution resembling that is found in the LAND farther inside. Kilometers of Boulders laid on the bridge to connect two natural protrusions of India and Lanka with the LEAST EFFORT PRINCIPLE (ie to reduce labor by connecting the land extension which will bridge the shortest distance) IS DEFINITELY THE RESULT OF WELL CONSIDERED PLANS THAT ONLY HUMANS CAN THINK OF.
Hence the MOST SCIENTIFIC Conclusion: RAM SETHU IS MAN MADE. ANY MUD HEADED CHALLENGERS ???
RE:READ THIS-RAM SETHU MANMADE!!!
by Cape Comorin on Oct 01, 2007 06:12 PM Permalink
Are you talking against Ramayana? Ramayana says it is monkeys-made.
RE:READ THIS-RAM SETHU MANMADE!!!
by sylesh gopan on Oct 01, 2007 07:51 PM Permalink
@ dada!, you will not have even one message in this forumn unless you stop using abusive language.
RE:READ THIS-RAM SETHU MANMADE!!!
by Gopi Menon on Oct 02, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Definitely Under the Leadership of Rama,the Perfect Person Incarnate!
Here ground reality is no way affect the normal life (work), you i came to office, and near by my office lot of construction work and other activities is going on, even most of the shopes opening. All of you talking about only city, what city only 20% of people are living and mostly depends on train and two wheeler, without bus also they can go the office. Moreover buses are running here. Remaining 80% of the people doing their routin work they need come to city today itself, they can do their needs tommorrow also. If you are seen tv and no normal life in the state is wrong. If any plan towards development it should be good for region or state or country, atleast 10 people get employment and come up their life. In the name of god if you stop means 20 people step downwards.
When there are so many issues to ponder about in our day to day life, we're wasting our time, energy and resources unnecessarily on an issue which does not have any significance in our lives. May be for the politicians, this issue is significant. Not for us commoners. If this project is going to help Indian economy, save lot of fuel, induce development along the coast, why make a big fuss about it? What's that we're going to achieve by retaining a collection of sand?
BJP has no issues other than Ram. This party thinks Ram is their sole property and only BJP has the right to meddle with anything named after Him. They're not bothered about other more important issues like, country's economy, growth, future, security and peace. All they know is Ram and only Ram. They think only Ram can bring them back to power. Let them raise their voice and concern for other issues as well. Else, even Ram can not save them.
Kalaignar also lost his control over his tongue. He must have stuck to Ram Sethu alone and need not have uttered bitter comments on the existance of Ram then. Does he have the guts to pass on similar comments on Gods of other religions as well???
Restraint and level head is the need of the hour. Let's not be misled by vested interests and get carried away. Let's think, what's good for the nation and support that. While JJ got a stay for the state sponsored bandh, hasn't she herself staged such tamashas before? All politicians are like; To hell with them all!
Any govt. of whatever state should not defy the court orders as none of the rulers are above law. Govt. is protector of law and order so if govt. starts breaking law then it can never give justice to its citizens. TN people have to take a serious view of this and check if they really need such govt.
RE:Defying SC orders is not good
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Government is protector of law only a functioning state. In a predatory state where most politicanl parties are family enterprises and laws discriminate between citizens, anyone with political power is entitled to presume that he/she is above all law.
RE:Defying SC orders is not good
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
Government is protector of law only a functioning state. In a predatory state where most politicanl parties are family enterprises and laws discriminate between citizens, anyone with political power is entitled to presume that he/she is above all law.
RE:Defying SC orders is not good
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 01, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
sure. where CM insults the national heores and supreme courts on a daily basis.
will any one answer these questions. 1. Ramar had ruled india or lived 1,75,000 years ago. All the known civilization are only 6000 to 8000 years old. during this period only man started to know about the nature and started to use for his benefit. all the known elements, like gold/iron/copper etc were the known to man only during this period. these are scientificaly known facts. But, raman had lived 1,75,000 years ago. the people at that time lived vary happily. They also knew the rocket/aeroplane technology. They were using high technology to produce bombs.That means petroluem or nuclear technology were the inventions of Indian. Is it beleivable. Then why india is so much lagging behind the western countries. If man is so much civilzed 1,75,000 years ago, then why the present day indians are very poor.
2. King Ravanan was living in Srilanka. Srilanka and India were two seperate land mass and seperated by pak straits. when there is no satelites/radios/phones etc, then how he knew about Mrs.seeta, who along with her companion were living in present day madyapradesh.
There are millions of peoples in this country living below poverty lines. Please allow them to live like you. Allow the india to progress. nj
RE:adams bridge
by Hemant Naik on Oct 01, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
that is the difference between you and indians. That is why westerners and moghals invaded india to loot the richness. If not they would have lived in their slumm. Now they are all rich by looting my beloved country which was richest even before the period you know. If you knew everything then you would not have been in here.
RE:adams bridge
by Cape Comorin on Oct 01, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
India was rich but not Indians. Most of wealth was accumulated in the temples. It was easy for the invaders to attack and took away the tons of gold stored in the temples without use.
RE:adams bridge
by ZULFI HAR on Oct 01, 2007 09:01 PM Permalink
Biggest Mistake we Tamils made is staying with India..If we were separate nation we would been prosporous like singapore..May be it is time to ask for separate Tamil nadu.Atleast we tamils would be respected all over the world...
You are write, If TamilNadu is seperated then it would be respected as land of fool, Land of filmi actor's temple, Land of Povetry and one sunny good morning, Madona would come to your state and confuse whom to adopt as each child would live in povetry. Even Tamil could not heard the name of Singapore, if it is separate state. In real terms Tamilnadu is burdan on indian economy.
RE:adams bridge
by Gopi Menon on Oct 02, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
Mr On ,I do not know whether you are ignorant of the Ancient Indian civilisation or pretending the same.However if you read the works of Western Professors and Researchers like 1)Dr Frits Staal (Maaried to a Kerala Brahmin,this westernn Christian conducted a Vedic Yagna like it was conducted in Ramayana and Measured the astounding effects scientifically.then you can read (2)David Frawley,another Christian who keeps christianty and hinduism together(he founded the First Ayurvedic Institute in US)
or Steve Knapp (he has dug out and exhibited photographic evidence that hinduism once extended to Egypt and Beyond)
You can also read wikipedia on Vimanas in Ramayana and so on.
It is good to question but unless you struggle to fnd answers to your question ,you will be swallowed by someone who knows better.So next time before you question any religion read enough!!
