Is this the same supreme court that suggested/ ordered the Central Government to pay the salary for the AIIMS doctors that striked work? The wordings make one wonder if the comments were from a distinguished judge or from a willing ally of the AIADMK
RE:SC
by Amarnath Barath on Oct 02, 2007 08:52 AM Permalink
May be you should read the judgement before replying. "No work no pay is not always right" is how the SC verdict read. It seems like it should depend on who was on strike.
RE:SC
by Amarnath Barath on Oct 02, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
Govt. can say what it feels. SC is supposed to tell the law as it is applicable to everyone. If what Govt. says is always right, we don't need a SC. SC can't change it stand on this
it is really surprising that u think that our politicians r honest and judiciary is corrupt. judiciary also has some corruption, but our politicians r very corrupt, selfish and opportunists.
there r many instances of corrupt practices of mk. one of them was sacking a central minister, bcoz he was bold enough to say against a tv program owned by his relative.
why did he not support dr kalam, who was from tn itself, for presidency instead of supporting a lady with dubious past and strange present, who talks to ghosts? mk says he is rationalist, still he supported such a lady.
RE:SC
by Amarnath Barath on Oct 02, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Dear Sharma, I still have more faith in our judiciary and I have not completely lost it yet. However, this particular judgement appeared inconsistent with the earlier stands by SC. When 2.5 lakhs of Govt. employees were suspended (punished, forget paying salary)by Ex CM of Tamil Nadu Ms. Jayalaitha, I admired her courage and the steadfastness of SC. When a few AIIMS doctors went on strike, causing inconvenience to patients, how can the SC suggest payment be done for the days they did not work. Political parties Cong, BJP, DMK, AIADMK may keep changing their stands. May be they are evolving. AIADMK leaders MGR and Jayalalitha may have called for state sponsoered bandh. They had certainly gone on fasting when they were CM. If a SC Judge makes statements like what is quoted based on the opposition party's lawer's contentions, we may have a serious problem. The party that is filing these charges is known to use all kinds of delaying tactics when dealing with the courts. As much as others should respect Judiciary, democratically elected Chief Ministers' have to be respected. Some of the hatred comments seen all over here about current Tamil Nadu CM only shows hatred and insecurity and uncivilized behaviour. As much as for the SC Judges, Prime Ministers and Chief Ministers have to be respected for the position they hold. When we say no one is above law, I suppose it includes the Judges as well.
i feel that no one should say anything against the sc. otherwise, i don't know what will happen in the country. there may b good or bad judgements. there may b some corrupt judges also. some judgments r good for some and bad for some. it also depends on what facts r put on the table by the lawyers. as is said the justice is blind. bcoz it depends on the proof. that is the reason many hi fi corrupt and criminals get free due to lack of proof.
RE:MK is becoming a joker
by Janesh on Oct 02, 2007 08:16 AM Permalink
gone insane like Dhrutarashtra with his filial love....which is in fashion in India...Sonia Ganddy,Karuna ....
Hi, Just for a while forget completely about the following: 1. What is the reason behind the bandh or strike or whateve name they call it. 2. Who orgsanised it 3. Who opposed it 4. Who tried to present it
Just realise that there was disturbance to the normal life in Chennai on 01st Oct. Who suffered?
1. Those who had urgent work on that day 2. Sick people and pregnent womens 3. Those who wanted to go to other cities in TN for unavoidable urgent works 4. Poor poeple who run their daily life from their daily earnings 5. Those who stay in mansion and hostels (without canteen facilities) and solely depend on small hotels for their food. 6. Ofcouse, economy loss.
Who do not care about bandh: 1. Government staff, they get one day holiday! 2. Private sector employees who get huge fixed salary, it is way of relaxing for them! 3. Rich business people, they get one forced day to spend their time with their families! 4. Big hotels and industries, they get one full day for their regular maintenance and repair. 5. Ofcouse, Politicians who get one full day to stage a protest against or pro bandh and wander around streets to show their strengh!!!!! Also they get topic to talk even after bandh!!!!!
EVERY DAY WE BANDH OR STRIKE OR WHATEVER NAME U CALL IT, OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE AHEAD BY ONE DAY THAN US, IT IS TRUE. PEOPLE OF OTHER COUNTRIES ARE WORKING ONE MORE DAY EXTRA THAN US FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESPECTIVE COUNTRIES.
RE:WHATEVER NAME YOU CALL IT
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
It is just like the non-cooperation movement by Gandhi. MK is just following MKG's example
RE:WHATEVER NAME YOU CALL IT
by R A Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
dear sowhat
mk is ruling both at center and the state. so against whom he is doing non cooperation? do not compare an anti social and highly corrupt person like mk with mahatma gandhi.
RE:WHATEVER NAME YOU CALL IT
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
it's to show that TN people are in favour of the canal project. it's to show the TN people support to the whole India that we want that project. (though it might not be the fact as like MKG no-cooperation movemnt since no people earning everyday bread worried abt MKG's movement)
That's the Bandh is for. to show support. MKG used it. why shouldn't MK do it?
RE:WHATEVER NAME YOU CALL IT
by Janesh on Oct 02, 2007 08:18 AM Permalink
WHEN DID TAMILIANS LOSE THEIR INNOCENCE AND STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS?WHERE HAVE YOUR GREAT CULTURAL VALUES GONE?
RE:Shame!
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 07:29 AM Permalink
What is selfish? Northies should be happy that Tamilnadu did not learn Hindi. Otherwise, half the north Job would be held by Tamils just like the Software jobs in USA.
You guys should thank us for not taking away your jobs. We are taking care of integrity of Tamilnadu and improving it. that's TamilNadu is one of the most successful state
RE:RE:RE:Shame!
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 09:14 AM Permalink
Madwa, you should get guiness record for your smelling ability. it's not the claim that Tamils are 10% Indian population. It's the claim that Tamils are 50% of Indian software professionals in USA and lot of them are in Management. If you work in USA software field, you would know it. Otherwise ask around.
RE:RE:Shame!
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
So what's wrong? You guys do your work to improve your state. Don't get jealous if TN prosper
Indians never had any freedom fighters. Mostly they were slaves and particularly Noth and East sold the country to those whitemen but Tamils as you could see the way LTTE could fight single handedly the Indians, the Pakis and Israeli's etc. What else you want to know. We have produced Nobel Lauretes, Best Sportsperson in the world and every one looks to the South for Solace and peace.. Probably you are among the millions of Indians who are not aware about Tamils and Tamil culture. Ours is the oldest living language and try to learn what culture is all
RE:Tamil Oh My Mother !
by Ramya on Oct 02, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Stop basking in the glory of your forefathers or your heredity or your tamizh gene. Have youi done any thing to make yourself proud? FYI - I'm a tamizh too!
RE:Tamil Oh My Mother !
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
Madhirpukira Thamizh, Preserving the language itself is not easy in the world of disappearing languages. Don't u think that lot of Indians are jealous of us just because we preserver our language (thus preserving our culture) is itself a big task?
RE:Tamil Oh My Mother !
by Ramesh Anand on Oct 02, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
It is a good thing that you preserve tamil and culture.In fact we north Indians are proud of you and Tamil Nadu for having preserved our culture.We in the North take pride in using as many Urdu and Arabic words as possible,to please muslims.
What was the Supreme Court doing when the Karnataka Government openly defied the Supreme Court's verdict to release Cauvery Water to TN?. What it was doing when the Kerala Government defied the Court's verdict which allowed TN Govt to raise the storage level of Mullai Periyar dam to 146 feet?
There are millions of cases pending in the courts for decades. Why was the petition filed by Brahmin Subramanya Swami and Jayalalitha was heard in hurry when the Court was not working on Sunday?.
Is the court following the Indian Penal Code or Manusmriti?
RE:RE:RE:Is the Supreme Court really Impartial?
by kate on Oct 02, 2007 05:01 AM Permalink
Helpless, inefficient and slept. But in the case of Chief Minister Karunanidhi, they show their muscle.
1.CAN THIS BRIDGE BE USED FOR INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING, GIVEN THAT THIS SECTION IS MAINLY CONTROLLED BY THE LTTE(JAAFNA AREA LIES CLOSE TO THIS CANAL), WHICH MAKES IT A VOLATILE SITUATION FOR BUSINESS PEOPLE TO USE FOR SHIPPING? CAN ANY TAMILIAN ANSWER THIS?
2.WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LOCAL FISHERMAN WHOSE LIVELYHOOD IS SPOILED BY THIS, SINCE THIS CANAL WILL CUTOFF THE SEA ACCESS FOR THE FISH THAT IS MAIN SOURCE FOR FISHERMEN?
3.WHY IS KARUNANIDHI SO ADAMENT ABOUT THIS PROJECT? IS IT BECAUSE HE IS LOOKING AFTER HIS OWN INCOME OR BRIBES THAT HE GETS FROM THE PROJECT CONTRACTORS? DAYANIDHI MARAN INCIDENT PROVES THAT KN IS A SELFISH GUY WHO CAN SACRIFICE GOOD MINISTER LIKE MARAN (WHO IS DOING GOOD TO THE COMMON MAN BY GETTING MORE PROJECTS TO INDIA AND TN), FOR THE SAKE OF HIS OWN FAMILY? 4.ALSO, THIS AREA IS FULL OF SAND THAT KEEPS ON GETTING DEPOSITED DUE TO WATER WAVES, NO MATTER WHAT HOW MUCH SAND YOU REMOVE FROM THIS AREA. IS IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE TO KEEP DIGGING THE SAND ALL THE TIME, TO KEEP THE CANAL CLEAR FOR INTERNATIONAL SHIPS THAT ARE HUGE AND NEED DEEP WATERS TO TRAVEL?
CAN ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT ANSWER THESE BASIC QUESTIONS? OR IS IT THAT YOU WANT THIS PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED OR GO AHEAD JUST TO SHOW OFF YOUR EGOS AND TO SATISFY YOUR OWN EGOS AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMETHING THAT IS EITHER NATURES WONDER OR A HERITAGE THAT INSPIRES HINDUS FOR GENERATIONS?
PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS WITHOUT ANY DIVERSION or WITHOUT CONFUSION AND GIVE SPECIFIC ANSWERS
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by ajman on Oct 02, 2007 01:50 AM Permalink
When the Gujarath Riot Happend under the Leadership of Hitler Modi where was Supreem Court,Why It Didnt Adviced to Dissmis that Fasict Govt. I am againist Bandh. But this is Double Standard.Also BJP and AIDMK Should Abstain From Any Strike, If they Have this Attitude.I Appreciate their descission againist the Strike.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sridhar gorantla on Oct 02, 2007 02:40 AM Permalink
You seems to have developed so much hatred against Modi just for an isolated incident, but can you imagine how much hatred, Hindus should be developing against Islam and Muslims, for dividing Vast India in to India, pakistan and Bangladesh, for forcilby converting upto 40% of Hindus to Islam and for destroying major temples and building Mosques by islamic maniacs near the temples as a provocative act?
BUT INSPITE OF ALL THIS, HINDUS WERE STILL SHOWING PATIENCE AND RESPECT IN GENERAL TOWARDS ISLAMIC FOLLOWERS, JUST BECAUSE THEY STILL UNDERSTAND THAT RELIGION IS JUST A SET OF RULES, BUT IT BY ITSELF IS NOT THE TRUE GOAL OR GOD OR ALLAH OR THE ALL PERVADING DIVINTIY.
SO, JUST DONOT DEVELOP HATRED IN THE NAME OF ISOLATED INCIDENTS AND THINK EVERYTHING IS AGAINST YOU. INFACT, REALIZE THAT SOME ISLAMIC MANIACS IN THE PAST HAVE MISUSED THEIR POWER AND TRUST AND BEHAVED LIKE ANIMALS. THE CURRENT HATRED OF SOME HINDUS AGINST ISLAM IS PURELY BECAUSE OF THIS. REMEMBER ONE THING. VEDIC HINDUISM AFFIRMS THAT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE ALL PERVADING DIVINTIY OR GOD OR ALLAH.
So, donot develop hatred just for fun or just because you donot have any other work. Otherwise, it will add more troubles to you only.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Gaurav Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 03:09 AM Permalink
Because Muslim rulers have persecuted Hindus in the past, does that give Modi a right to kill thousands of innocent Muslims who had nothing to do with the burning of that train.... He should be hanged publicly....
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sridhar gorantla on Oct 02, 2007 03:52 AM Permalink
modi donot have the right to persecute others by saying that in the past you did , so I do it now, but you have to understand one thing. The hatred that some Hindus show is only a reactionary Hatred for the actions that were done by Some Islamic Maniacs.
This is exactly same as how people support Islamic militants reactions to US war in Iraq. It is only a reactionary in nature and you should understand that there is a difference between reactionary violence and proactive violence. Proactive violence is worse, but reactionary violence can be tackled by way of showing more patience and open reaching out of the muslim community towards the hindus against whom there were human rights violations. byt the way, MODI DID NOT PERSECUTE THOUSANDS or so. Its just an isolated incident and donot make it a general persecution of Muslims. We have to give humanity more value than Religion, and this has to come from all sides, and not only from one side.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Reddy Reddy on Oct 02, 2007 02:00 AM Permalink
Where were you when muslims burned the train in gujrath?
RE:RE:RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 02:19 AM Permalink
Whether Muslims burn Hindus or Hindus burn Muslims, it is a failure of the state government and the Thug CM was not impartial and the greater thugs in the judiciary didnt bark like they are now.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Janesh on Oct 02, 2007 06:11 AM Permalink
Mody is being investigated even now.Will the innocents who lost lives because of the barbarianism in Islam get any justice???? Will Kashmiri Pundits get their homes and lives back???????
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
what's the Point of investigation? Modi was elected to power in a public election after his genocide.
why do u equate the Kashmiri pandits problem with riots? has any Indian Governments (including BJP) shown heart in solving the pandits' problem? How many Indians really care abt it
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Gaurav Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 02:36 AM Permalink
This is not double standards.... Here, there is a clear evidence of the state govt. flouting the court's directions openly which may be termed a contempt of court and thus the court may direct the central govt. to dismiss the state govt.
In that freak Modi's case, howsoever heinous his actions may have been, it could never be proved that he was behind the carnage. Though everyone knows that, that demon of a human being was responsible for the killings of so many innocent people but nothing has yet been proven in the court due to lack of direct evidence and witnesses.
Moreover, during the riots, courts had not passed any directions to the state govt. as everything was over in a few days during which the courts did not have any time to react as there was no complainant. Hence there was no contempt of court.. Thus there were no legal grounds to dismiss that evil govt.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 02:15 AM Permalink
1. Yes. This canal can be used any ship - national or international - LTTE has no illwill towards anybody but the racist Sinhala government. Obviously Lankan Navy ships should not come through. LTTE and Indian Navy will have a problem with that.
2. Local fishermen: This issue is nothing special. People's lives get affected whether you build a dam/factory/canal etc. We have to wait and see and help them adapt to new circumstances if need be.
3. Karunanidhi's interest: Everybody was interested in the canal (Karunanidhi, Vaiko, Jaya, Vajpayee). Then came the monkey brigade with their Lord and Monkey story and Karunanidhi is the last man standing to defend this project. Karunanidhi is corrupt, but efficient.
4. Sand keeps filling up: This is a technical problem and an insult to Indian Engineering that this cannot be overcome.
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sridhar gorantla on Oct 02, 2007 02:49 AM Permalink
If LTTE donot have any ILL motives towards us, then why did we loose a great leader like Rajiv Gandhi? Why did we loose so many army people?
REMEMBER one thing. If we give too much leverage to LTTE by making this project happen, then obviously, SriLanka is going to approach CHINA or PAKISTAN. Which will be a major blow to INDIA, and we can forget the Sethu project at that time all together. In that situation, international shippers will never ever use this canal.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 03:03 AM Permalink
The army that General Dyer command killed hundreds of Indians. The army that Rajiv Gandhi commanded killed thousands of Tamils in Sri Lanka. Some Tamils paid back for the killing of thousands by killing Rajiv. The bottom line is that Tamils or LTTE do not have any illwill towards India or any other ethnic nationality of India.
Actually, the LTTE is also opposed to this project.
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Gaurav Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
Hahahahaha, a Tamil calling somebody else a racist.... Tamils are one of the most racist communities in the world.. Maybe they feel inferior to the rest of the nation.. Be it a Kannada, Malayali or Telugu, they always have one reason or the other to fight with them.....
And god forbid if you are a North Indian in TN!!! They always have all these illusions of Tamil grandeur although I fail to see whats been sooooooo great about Tamil culture... How many freedom fighters did TN produce?.... No one of any national stature.... Whats wrong with you guys? I know you have some inferiority complex but please grow up now!!!
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by ZULFI HAR on Oct 02, 2007 08:01 AM Permalink
First u drop ur caste name from ur full name.u upper caste Sharma..What u know about the Tamils bravery..90% of Indian National army in 1942 under Subash chandra bose were tamils.We Tamils fought till our last blood against Brithish and not gift our land like ur north Indians..Even to Test Nuclear bomb u need the help from Abdhul Kalam who is a tamilan..what have u North Indians done for us.. nothing...Except showing off ur caste system in ur full name...Shame on U guys
RE:RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 07:15 AM Permalink
GAurav, first Hindi speaking people are the racist. They are the one wanna enforce Hindi on Tamil speaking people. First don't interfere in our regional affairs. that way, you won't be racist anymore.
RE:RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Die Hard on Oct 02, 2007 03:16 AM Permalink
Mr. Gaurav (Aryan) Sharma,
First learn the history and then come and post.Veerapandiya Kattabomman. Marudu Brothers were the very first freedom fighters in the country who fought against British in the 18th Century.
Marudanayagam alias Mohammed Yusuf Khan who is regarded one of the best army strategist along with Hyder Ali is a Tamilian and he fought against the British in 18th Century.
V.O. Chidambaram pillai started the first Swadesi Shipping Corporation and died in the Prison in the Freedom Struggle.
Tiruppur Kumaran sacrificed his life to save the Tricolor.
And the list continues.
Please make sure that you have the right information with you before you comment anything.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Gaurav Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 03:34 AM Permalink
Die Hard, like I said, these are not people who ever achieved national stature like say Tipu Sultan.....
Anyways, I don't know what you're trying to convey by Aryan.... I've great respect for Kannadigas, Malayalis, Telugus because they don't cry hoarse about their individual cultures... Yes, they are proud of their culture and lineage but they consider themselves Indians first.... Whereas Tamils live in some utopia regarding their superiority.. They support a terrorist who was responsible for the killing of one of our Prime Ministers...
You people should get out of this country, build some stupid Ealam of yours and live their... U guys are always Tamils first and then Indians.... Maybe thats the reason we've had a Kannadiga PM and a Telugu PM but no Tamil has ever come close to that chair....
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
Gaurav, Subramaniya Bharathi was the most intellectual poet (than Ravindranath Tagore) and great freedom fighter and forward thinker in all aspects of society (liberating Women discrimation and caste discrimination)... And he gave is life fighting for Indian freedom. How many Northies know abt it? Not too many%u2026
Because its the partiality that everything belongs to North and nothing belongs to South. First get some knowledge of Freedom fighters before you start your rant.
How many northies liberated the enslaved women? the liberation of women movement started in Tamilnadu
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by vsgiri on Oct 02, 2007 05:51 AM Permalink
Indians never had any freedom fighters. Mostly they were slaves and particularly Noth and East sold the country to those whitemen but Tamils as you could see the way LTTE could fight single handedly the Indians, the Pakis and Israeli's etc. What else you want to know. We have produced Nobel Lauretes, Best Sportsperson in the world and every one looks to the South for Solace and peace.. Probably you are among the millions of Indians who are not aware about Tamils and Tamil culture. Ours is the oldest living language and try to learn what culture is all about.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 03:00 AM Permalink
The Sri Lankan army is 99.99% Sinhala. Minorities make up 28% of Sri Lanka. Is that racist or not?
Tamils are racist in a negative manner - they discriminate against fellow dark skinned Tamils and elevate fair skinned people - Tamils or not.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Virgo on Oct 02, 2007 04:23 AM Permalink
He is not a Tamil. He is just posing as one. He is a Paki ISI agent.
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 07:16 AM Permalink
why Northies always bring Paki into discusion? First clean ur house first before poking on someone's else
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 10:11 AM Permalink
So why do you bring Pakistan, Mr.virgo? Pakistan have their own problems and their only stability was making trouble in India and they could not do that anymore when USA is right on their head. we need to keep our house clean first.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sridhar gorantla on Oct 02, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
The technical problem may be taken as a challenge by the indian Engineering folks, but at what cost do you want to maintain this canal? REMEMBER THIS IS THE INDIAN TAX PAYER MONEY. NOT THE OWN MONEY OF POLITICIANS. So, a proper study need to be done. Its a huge task to keep the sand level very low in this area, especially since this area falls between two land masses. Sand will come to this canal from both sides rather than only one side or else we have to make this canal so wide that it takes atleast 10 years for any sand to get deposited. To make this wide of a canal, we have to take off ALMOST all the land mass between SriLanka and india, which is going to be a humoungus taks and may take 5 or 10 years and huge amounts of money. Why do we need to do this just for hte sake of getting indian ships to bypass the sriLanka. Is it worth? Any data to justify this would be of great use for us to understand rather than blindly support of blindly reject.
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 03:11 AM Permalink
This project has been on the table for more than 100 years. I am sure it was technically reviewed before the Vajpayee government cleared it in 2003. I am sure the participants in this forum are primarily concerned around the Ram Setu angle of this canal and the technical issues have already been put to rest.
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Oh. And also - this is a canal - not a bridge. Ships need canals not bridges.
RE:RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by sridhar gorantla on Oct 02, 2007 02:47 AM Permalink
So, you expect a CANAL to be used by big shipping companies? Do you know how deep this canal should be? It should be very deep rather than just a normal canal to make water flow. imagine a ship that takes almost thousands of tonnes of shipment going in to this canal. How viable this is?
Also, why would international shippers use this canal or prefer this canal, while they have free international waters that nobody has exclusive rights over? I would say only the Indian ships that goes from west to east or east to west only have an advantage. NO OTHER INTERNATIONAL SHIPS HAE ANY MAJOR ADVANTAGE. Unless you are traversing a triangular path, there is no advantage in reducing the tip of the triangle for a ship that is going straight path. Its a basic geometry.
How many Indian ships travel via this route? There are no statistics that I know of or there are no case studies or no traffic statistics that are done by anyone . If yes, please show them. This will be very helpful for the general public. I will not trust any politician blindly, since he afterall came to power by pledging to serve common man with out selfishness, but is NOT DOING so anymore. Hence data is what we need to look at before taking up such huge projects.
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by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 03:13 AM Permalink
You should have written to Vajpayee in 2003 if you wanted to contribute to a feasibility study on this project. The project is underway and its only fair that it gets done.
How about going after Chrysler/Dodge for naming their pickup trucks after Ram?
RE:WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF SETU BRIDGE TO COMMON MAN OR ECONOMY?
by Virgo on Oct 02, 2007 01:50 AM Permalink
Do you ever try to read what you post? If you do, you will note that all caps posts are jarring to the eye and nobody reads them.
The comments on Lord Rama and Sethu Project scam were stirred by DMK to get two mangoes with one stone :
1. Tackle PMK - Ramadoss was giving lot of trouble for DMK and its plans (to make money). So our DMK brought this issue to centerstage and forced Ramadoss to be silent (First Mango is hit)
2. Enable Stalin to become CM. Now that this issue is contempt of Court, Karuna will now pretend to sacrifice power and go to jail (to create sympathy) and in the process his son will be made as next CM (Second Mango waiting to be hit)
And worst thing of whole political game is the way millions of tamils are fooled to think that Karunanidhi is savior of tamils and all. He is only saving his own power.
Sethu Canal is not Suez Canal or Panama Canal. Tuticorin will NOT BECOME A SINGAPORE OR HONG KONG BY this canal.
Worldwide, Shipping industry is moving to bigger sized ships. We are talking about 35000 Tonne Ships being the norm. Such Huge Sized ships will not be able to pass through Sethu canal.
Secondly, Shipping traffic between Chennai and Western Asia/Europe is not that much at all. So the users of canal will be just a few ships. Also,there is absolutely no need for them to stop in Tuticorin Port . Why? They can get much cheaper diesel/fuel in Aden port or in Colombo. Why should they ever stop in Tuticorin?
Bottom line is - Sethu Project is a politician-contractor scam to fool tamils and to fool the people of Southern Tamilnadu. DMK is doing everything only for Chennai and neglecting Southern TN. Sethu project is waste of money and time. Koodankulam project will do more good for Tuticorin/Nellai.
In other words - dont be fooled by DMK and politician trick scams.
And more importantly, dont think everyone who opposes sethu is a aryan bjp agent. I am neither and I only point out the waste of money in this project. Still if you want your dear DMK leaders to become richer, go ahead. But dont think that Tuticorin will become a Singapore in this project. Chennai alone will see all industries and investment and rest of Tamilnadu will be full of underdevelopment and unemployment.
RE:BLIND SETHU PROJECT SUPPORTERS - READ THIS..
by MGR Fan on Oct 02, 2007 12:56 AM Permalink
Atleast they dont preach anti nationalism and caste hatred and they dont try to make whole state a property of single family.
ADMK is having millions of defects; But it is a million times better than DMK.
Hitler rule is worse than british rule.. Like that.
RE:BLIND SETHU PROJECT SUPPORTERS - READ THIS..
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 01:02 AM Permalink
AIADMK has no reason to exist - It has no relation to brand politics. Jayalalitha can create her own version of Tamil BJP/VHP but she has decided to hijack a dravidian party.
RE:BLIND SETHU PROJECT SUPPORTERS - READ THIS..
by sowhat on Oct 02, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
so, why Jayalalitha claimed that she initiated this project before opposing the project?
RE:BLIND SETHU PROJECT SUPPORTERS - READ THIS..
by kaka on Oct 02, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
dem blaming you and you guys blaming them. what else is new?
There are lots of Pakis, who out of frustration with thier country are roaming around here in Rediff message boards, provoking south indians against north indians. I am a south indian myself and I see all indians including north indians as my brothers. I don't subscribe to the crappy Aryan Invasion theory by the british which was disproved archaelogically after the Harrappa-Mohenjadaro findings and recently was disproven Genetically (DNA analysis). North Indians and South Indians have the highest match against europeans and central asians.
Also the original Aryan Invasion theory talks of Aryans invading India in 1500 BC - but when Harrappan findings suggested that it dates atleast to 2500BC, the british historians quickly changed the aryan invasion dates to 3000BC. Its surprising how foolishly ppl believe that the "Aryans" described as "Nomads" and "Barbarians" by the british themselves can come to India and suddenly have a great civilization and write such a great thing as the Vedas. The recent Bhimbatka Cave findings in Chattisgarh proved that there is great civilization in India which is atleast 8000 yrs old (cave paintings suggest that they are from 6000 BC). Ppl like Karuna took the British's bait and thrived on anti-hindi - anti-aryan crap to only divide indians. The british also tried creating differences between tribals and rest of India - by calling them Adivasis/Natives and branding rest of India as oppressors/occupiers.
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 01:06 AM Permalink
I see all the people of the world as my brothers and sisters. I do have a problem with chanting that they all belong to the same nation. India is a subcontinent comprised of several nations. It was made into a "nation" by the British for administrative purposes. Don't fool yourself into believing anyother propaganda.
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Virgo on Oct 02, 2007 01:10 AM Permalink
hmmmm.. that is the usual justification that the pakis rattle on to justify their "two nation" theory. Are you a Paki?? If you are, you just gave yourself away hiding in the "Tamil Nadu" avtar.
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
if Pakistan was part of India, Indian soldiers(including Tamils) will be sacrificed proudly by you Idiots in the name of national security on the Afghanistan border (to protect the current Pakistan). Now, you claim that Pakis are unrelated to you. How can that be? You don't create a nation by just declaring one. India is not 2 (or 3) nations - but each ethnic group is a separate nation. If such nations have affinity to a certain geography, they should be a separate country.
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Virgo on Oct 02, 2007 01:29 AM Permalink
Hey paki, take your multi-nation theory back to your stinking terrorsit country. If you really believe in what you say, first give independence to Baluchistan, Sindhu Desh, Pashtoonistan and Seraikistan before comeing here and open your foul mouth.
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Tamil Nadu on Oct 02, 2007 02:07 AM Permalink
Answer the question dimwits: Do you want Pakistan to be part of India/Akhand Bharat? If so, aren't Pakis also your countrymen separated by a quirk of history? Then why the animosity?
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Gaurav Sharma on Oct 02, 2007 03:44 AM Permalink
Guys, it seems this guy has got an identity crisis and also affirms my view that all bloody Tamils are Tamils first and then Indians (that is if they consider themselves Indians at all)...
And yes, we want Pakistan to be a part of Akhand Bharat minus all its current inhabitants.... Trust me, if Pakistan is rid of its citizens, 50% of the world's and 90% of India's problems will be solved...
RE:Pakis trying to create North-South divide among Indians
by Virgo on Oct 02, 2007 04:20 AM Permalink
Hey Paki disguised as 'Tamil Nadu', why did you not answer my question on your pakis granting independene to Balochistan, Sindu Desh, Pashtoonistan and Seraikistan?
To answer your question, it was you pakis who said you were a superior race and a different nation and invented the 'two-nation' theory. The area that you pakis live in is part of ancient indian civilization and hence should belong to India. However, personally, I am of the opinion that you can keep it; just don't bother us by sending your terrorists.
You are surprised that we hate you pakis? Don't you know why? You have waged four wars againsta us. You are occupying Kashmir, our territory, you are waging a proxy terrorist war against us. Your terrorists have killed over 100,000 Indians to date. Now, do you understand why we hate you?
