We need to look into this issue with a different view. Everybody opposing sending back taslima are right, when you consider Taslima as a representative of womens fighting for equality to all females. Even I rate Females superior far above Men. She is the one who can bear all the pain and suffering to give birth to we mens.
But supporting only her because she voiced against the Islam is very pity. The intention of BJP now asking for citizen ship is not because of her work to liberate females.
If our parties were so interested in supporting females, ask them to first practice respecting females from their home. India have enough talented females for whome even 50 percentage reservation in election can be made mandatory. Why our political parties implement that first.
RE:Bad Politics!!
by deepak on Nov 27, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
dont go nit picking Mukherjee...get the bigger picture and rise above BJP Shijepi...the greater cause is a Woman has spoken for the helpless Hindu Bengalis in Bangladesh, which NO sonofagun Bengali Communist from W Bengal has done...if BJP is supporting her and the commies are not then down with commies and up with BJP ! simple, let the mid soar...these same guys come out in the streets when that pervert geezer Mf Hussain paints Durga copulating with a bull ! If HIndus get a spine thru BJP. fine
RE:few verses from religion of peace
by samir siddiqui on Nov 27, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
002.190 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.
RE:few verses from religion of peace
by GN on Nov 27, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
suhag, Are you not confident of your faith and religion. Are you feared of Muslim forcing you to get converted.
Why we are bothering about other religions. We all are educated people, Let us first work together as a unity to remove this religious hatred injected through the society by our political leaders, Religious groups.
RE:few verses from religion of peace
by max on Nov 27, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
In verse 2.190, God instructs Muslims to fight back, but not to transgress and remain just even during the battle. "They are told that material interests should not be the motivation for their fighting, that they should not take up arms against those were not in opposition to the true faith, that they should not resort to unscrupulous methods or to the indiscriminate killing and pillage which characterized the wars of the pre-Islamic era, the Age of Ignorance. The excesses alluded to in this verse are acts such as taking up arms against women and children, the old and the injured, mutilation of the dead bodies of the enemy, uncalled for devastation through the destruction of fields and livestock, and other similar acts of injustice and brutality. In the Hadith all these acts have been prohibited. The real intent of the verse is to stress that force should be used only when its use is unavoidable, and only to the extent that is absolutely necessary." (note 201, page 151, Towards Understanding the Quran, Volume 1)
Commentary on verse 2.192: "God, in whom the believers have faith, is forgiving and ready to pardon even the worst criminals and sinners after they have renounced their arrogant defiance towards Him. It is suggested that this attribute of God should be reflected in the behavior of the believers as well. As the saying goes: %u2018Mould your morals according to the attributes of God.%u2019 Hence, whenever the believers have to resort to armed conflict, they should do so not fo
RE:few verses from religion of peace
by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 27, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
stop abusing religions. learn to speak professionaly. Display your character and culture what your religion and parents taught you.
RE:few verses from religion of peace
by vijay k on Nov 27, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
Ismail Cool Man... He has not abused any body.. He just copy pasted some quotes from koraan... Do u think it was like abuse ??
congress govt. is weak.does not know how to control aggressive elements.govt. can run only on firm committment.taslima shall not be allowed to publish any thing whiach disturbs peace.india is not a play ground for writers who disturb harmony.muslims in india are not tolerant.no where democracy exists where majority muslims rule.so forget about freedom for taslima.look india's interests first.
We, India, have our own problem to address. I really do not understand why spend our money time and resorces for one single individual who is not an Indian. Send her back to Bangladesh and let her solve her cause and problem.
Read the two books of Tasleema Nasree, Amar Meyebela and lajja. you will find that it has no literary value.
She hasmentioned in Amaar Meyebela how big his father was a womaniser, and with which Baba her mother slept and which uncle molested and sexually abused her. A family drama of the people who have no hesitation in having extra marital affairs.
As far as Lajja is concerned, I appreciate her guts to come out openly against those elements in Bangladesh who destructed / damaged mandir as a response to the destruction of Babri mosque. Both the destruction of mosque in India anddestruction of mandir in Bangladesh is a smbol that how far we have drifted away from our religion and there should not be any hesitation and shame in condemning those elements.
She was justified till now, but then she opened her sword against Islam , despite her own admission that her knowledge about Islam is very very superficial. How can she give her expert opinion about Islam without having understood it.
This only shows that there is neither literary value of her book nor there is any depth in its substance.
The only logic of writing such book was to please the segment of society all over the world that is opposed to Islam who will not only give her recognition but hefty amount as well.
I feel pity for this lady and I am in favour of not extending her visa in India as she has become an irritant for muslims and a threat to peace in the society.
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by deepak on Nov 27, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
Hey Aftab, India I think accords the right to a person irrespective of literary merit..you can write and read most things our spines will allow us...personally I think Quran has little literary value, but no reason to ban it.is there??....and who you think has a knowledge of Islam? Khomeni or Osama Bin Laden??? trust both are worse than Taslima...its a shame you defend Islamofascists who want to stifle people from speaking..btw you are not going to succeed. ther are thousands of people who will raise questions about religions as it affects our lives..
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by on Nov 27, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
When you say "Koran is the book of god", I should be able to say that it is not. That is "freedome of expression".
I am a muslim and i agree that you have the freedom to say it is not book of god and that wont change in what i beleive.
freedom of expression does not mean hurting someones sentiments. it is true for tasleema and it is true for MF hussain
RE:RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by jai on Nov 27, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
thatKM is still alive and a CM ...if he would have said against ur terroerist religion he would have been killed or would be running for his life....ur id is white scott but we know u r black pork...porky...where were u when MF husaain was openly painting godessess one after another...I guess u dont know who s ur father..n which gutter u were born
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by vijay k on Nov 27, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
Mr white,, Have u ever heard of a person called Periyar in Tamilnadu... He has written a book abt Ramayan... He has written all the things u had mentioned above... but nobody issued a fatwa... against him... He is still revered by every body since we believed in freedom of expression... and also we did not mind his book since it was his view and nobody can change it...
RE:RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by vijay k on Nov 27, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
U r wrong again buddy... Karunanithi spoke in TV against Ram he is not killed... Ur MF Hussain is not killed for painting Hindu Gods... We r tolarant...
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by Topno on Nov 27, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
Your muslim countries like Pakistan & Bangladesh have given shelters to great people like Dawood, Chhota Shakeel, Osama & terrorists. You are telling about Islam. What teaching Islam gives is clear from the activities of muslim countries.
You are talking about Ram, Sita & Krishna. We dont want to know about them from Jehadis. We know how muslims constructed Masjids in Ayodhya & Mathura to insult Hindus. Muslims dont allow non-muslims to enter Mecca & Madina (their holy cities), but want their masjid in our holy cities.
Muslims are fighting against Jews, Budhists (destroyed bamiyan budhha), Christians, Sikhs (killed thousands sikhs during partition), Hindus. Everyday muslims are killing each other in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan calling each other Shia and Sunni.
I know it is not the fault of Muslims. It is their religion which teaches who are kafir and how to kill them.
While their own religion is a religion of criminals, this guy is talking about Ram & Krishna. It is nothing but Jehad against Ram & Krishna i.e. God.
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by sanjay kumar on Nov 27, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
I like relegion like Hindu, Christian...but frankly i am telling i don't like ISLAM...Islam only tells how to become terrorist..so i request to all muslim brothers and sisters please convert into either HINDU or CHRISTIAN..so that no terrorist will be there in this world..
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by on Nov 27, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
in that contest many in BJP and shiv sena will also be kicked out. when you talk about corrupt politician they don't have any party boundries
RE:RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by sanjay kumar on Nov 27, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
I like relegion like Hindu, Christian...but frankly i am telling i don't like ISLAM...Islam only tells how to become terrorist..so i request to all muslim brothers and sisters please convert into either HINDU or CHRISTIAN..so that no terrorist will be there in this world..
RE:Tasleema is a fraud
by GN on Nov 27, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Your reply to seravera was unwanted at the last 5 lines. even i dont know what tasleema really said against islam. I also request aftab to update about her comments.
The BJP is trying to fish in murky waters. The BJP is not a party that had fought for freedom of speech or expressions. The BJP and its supporting units had vandalised many art exhibitions depicting Hindu gods in poor light. The BJP had keep out in strong opposition to Deepa Mehta's Fire.
Artists should have the right to paint and write their inner feelings, but that should not be at the cost of hurting the sentiments of people. What kind of artistic creation did the artist want to put up by drawing offensive pictures of Hindu gods? If you have a talent in you, you should know how to use it in the right manner.
Taslima is on the run for hurting sentiments of people where she was born. India provided refuge and protection. Instead of thanking India for the support, she is reloaded with even more fiercesome remarks on a minority community. Why do we need to provide her protection when she is all geared up to create friction among the different communities of India?
The BJP should not paint this situation with political or communal colours.
RE:Bad Politics!!
by sanjay kumar on Nov 27, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
I like relegion like Hindu, Christian...but frankly i am telling i don't like ISLAM...Islam only tells how to become terrorist..so i request to all muslim brothers and sisters please convert into either HINDU or CHRISTIAN..so that no terrorist will be there in this world..
RE:Bad Politics!!
by Anantha Krishnan on Nov 27, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
It clearly shows that no muslim wants to support Taslima and not willing to understand what she is trying to say ??? I doubt most of people would not even read what she said and simply comment that she has abused muslims. Is telling truth about the atrocity on women is abusing Islam ?????
That shows that you people have no tolerance even for the slightest things and you boast that Islam preaches peace and love and hatered for none.. seems to be a good joke
Every religion has some goods and bads and its the right of people to tell that some thing is bad and when some proves that as bad, right minded people should correct those. You cant go and curse the person who has told that and also should not issue fatwa to kill.
RE:Join Hinduism
by life on Nov 27, 2007 09:53 AM Permalink
prophet mohammed was a child rapist and a looter.(history proves it) allah is god of small things(that is unable to think generously) kuran is the "manusmrithi"of half impotents