GUJARAT KA SACH by B. P. SINGHAL, IPS. (Retd.), Ex-MP Rajya Sabha.
They-THE SECULARISTS - are at it once again.
"It was a well planned 'GENOCIDE'", "it was 'POGROM'", "it was state sponsored 'TERRORISM'", is what they had said in screaming headlines day after day after day in 2002, in the Delhi based "SECULAR" English dailies and the "SECULAR" electronic media. So complete was the Goebblesian propaganda and so effective was the concealment of truth, that even the Supreme Court lost its judicial balance and without verifying what steps the Government of Gujarat had taken, it went on to write on page 72 of its judgment in the Best Bakery Case that, "The modern day NEROS were looking elsewhere when Best Bakery and innocent children and helpless women were burning ...........".
It was media power at its worst that caused this unwarranted outburst from the Hon'ble Supreme Court. All the Gujarat language dailies were giving truthful accounts which were at complete variance with the Delhi based Media.
"The Hindu", the leading-most South India daily reported on 1st March 2002: "The Chief Minister Modi frantically asked for the Army units to be called in." On 2nd March 2002 'The Hindu' reported: "Unlike February 28 when one community was entirely at the receiving end, the minority backlash on 1st March has further worsened the situation .......... and the Army staged a flag march in Ahemedabad on 1st March 2002 at 9.00 A.M."
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
It was therefore truly shocking that on 25.8.2007, "Aaj Tak" harped on the same old refrain that "Modi did not call the army until three days had passed". Even more outrageous was their insistence on this point. When "Aaj Tak" contacted me on phone to get my response, I told the anchor that the GODHRA carnage took place on February 27th 2002, that the Hindu backlash commenced on February 28th and the Army was doing flag march on the forenoon of March 1st ............ He cut me short by saying that "this is exactly what we had said, no action was taken by Modi on 29th, 30th and 31st thus giving three clear days to the murderers ........" I had to cut him short by reminding him that the date 28th was 28th of February 2002 and there was no 29th, 30th or 31st in that month. The phono was of course disconnected. However, it has to be said to the credit of "Aaj Tak" and "Headlines Today" that they called me for a full length studio debate from 9.15 P.M. 11.45 P.M. next day. But the details of that debate shall have to wait. For the present, however, it is imperative that certain facts are stated to prevent perpetuation of the LIES propagated in 2002.
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
Fact 6: As on 5th of March, as many as 40,000 Hindus had had to be given shelter in Relief Camps. (There was plenty of media coverage given to the plight of Muslims in relief camps but no Delhi-based media covered any Hindu relief camps.)
Fact 7: In answer to the Parliament questions, the UPA Home Minister gave the figures of casualties during Gujarat riots. There were Muslims killed 790, Hindus killed 254, wounded 2500 in all missing 223. Thus this proves the lies that what happened in Gujarat was a one-sided affair for every three Muslims who died in Gujarat, one Hindu was also killed.
Such heavy casualties in riot control are UNPRECEDENTED in the entire history of Indian Police. The figures of casualties caused by Police firing in the first three days alone indicate the FEROCITY of Police action. (And the "SECULAR" PARTIES and their MEDIA cohorts even to this day proclaim unabashedly that Modi ordered the Police "to look the other way" to give a free hand to murderers for three days). If they have any respect for TRUTH, they can cross-check the casualties with the records of the concerned hospitals. The Police is duty bound to carry the dead or the wounded in Police firings to the concerned Government hospitals.
With the Muslim counter attack commencing from 1st March onwards till the riots were quelled altogether, what took place in Gujarat was a full-fledged Hindu-Muslim Riot. It was no GENOCIDE, or POGROM, or STATE TERRORISM against the Muslims of Gujarat. "
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
"No modern day 'NERO' was looking elsewhere". The modern day Chief Minister was dealing with the situation as best as was possible with the highly limited forces at his command.
Because of the spontaneous conflagration at scores and scores of locations, it is entirely possible that the Police or Fire brigade may have failed to reach a scene for hours, OR, having been spread so thin, the posse of Police that did reach the scene was deterred from intervening by the sheer ferocity of violence at that point in time. But to say that Police was restrained as a measure of Government POLICY is completely belied by the sheer immensity of casualties caused by Police firings.
The insane FEROCITY and BRUTALITY with which Ram Bhaktas including "innocent children and helpless women" were roasted alive at Godhra set the benchmark for the equally insane ferocity of the Hindu backlash and the ferocity of the Hindu backlash was followed by an equally insanely ferocious counter attack by the Muslims.
The Delhi-based media made out as though the whole of Gujarat was in flames. It concealed the fact that out of 18,600 villages, 240 Municipal towns and 25 Districts, the number of locations that were affected by riots was just 60. Not a single man-day was lost in the 200 odd Industrial townships by any Industry in Gujarat because of the riots. The examinations in Schools, Colleges and Universities were conducted as per schedule during the period of riots.
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
"No modern day 'NERO' was looking elsewhere". The modern day Chief Minister was dealing with the situation as best as was possible with the highly limited forces at his command.
Because of the spontaneous conflagration at scores and scores of locations, it is entirely possible that the Police or Fire brigade may have failed to reach a scene for hours, OR, having been spread so thin, the posse of Police that did reach the scene was deterred from intervening by the sheer ferocity of violence at that point in time. But to say that Police was restrained as a measure of Government POLICY is completely belied by the sheer immensity of casualties caused by Police firings.
The insane FEROCITY and BRUTALITY with which Ram Bhaktas including "innocent children and helpless women" were roasted alive at Godhra set the benchmark for the equally insane ferocity of the Hindu backlash and the ferocity of the Hindu backlash was followed by an equally insanely ferocious counter attack by the Muslims.
The Delhi-based media made out as though the whole of Gujarat was in flames. It concealed the fact that out of 18,600 villages, 240 Municipal towns and 25 Districts, the number of locations that were affected by riots was just 60. Not a single man-day was lost in the 200 odd Industrial townships by any Industry in Gujarat because of the riots. The examinations in Schools, Colleges and Universities were conducted as per schedule during the period of riots.
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by rajendra kumar on Nov 15, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
Irrefutable confirmation that it was a Communal RIOT and not a GENOCIDE or POGROM, came from the verdicts of Courts in POST-GODHRA riots cases:
(i) Deccan Herald reported on May 2004: Conviction of 3 confessing Muslims for 7 years for attempted murder.
(ii) Indian Express dated 19.03.2006 reported: 7 Muslims convicted for life for the murder of Mukesh Panchaal.
(iii) Indian Express dated 29.03.2006 reported: 9 Muslims convicted for attempted murder and Arms Act with sentences ranging from 10 years to 18 months.
(iv) Indian Express dated 19.05.2006 reported: 4 Muslims nailed by DNA tests and convicted for LIFE.
While the "SECULAR" PARTIES and the "SECULAR" Delhi-based Media singled out the Hindu backlash for mega-publicity, they BLANKED OUT the Godhra carnage, as well as the Muslim counter attack for reasons best known to them. Nevertheless, not only the MINORITY community of Gujarat, but the entire population of Gujarat had been well aware of "GUJARAT KA SACH", ALL ALONG. As a result, all the Goebblesian propaganda had to bite the dust when the BJP was not only returned to serve Gujarat for a second term, by an overwhelming majority in the legislature, in the Post-Godhra-Post-Gujarat elections, but also continued to win the Corporation, the Municipal and the Gram Sabha elections with overwhelming margins. In a DEMOCRACY, THE PEOPLE KNOW WHO IS WHAT. AND THE PEOPLE ARE THE FINAL ARBITERS. Tehelka and the sponsors of Tehelka have once again tried to viti
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
ARBITERS. Tehelka and the sponsors of Tehelka have once again tried to vitiate communal harmony not only of Gujarat but of the entire country. People overwhelmingly believe that the Tehelka "sting operation" was sponsored by the Congress. If it is so, then, this would be the third major attempt of the "SECULAR" Congress to stoke the communal flames in the country. The first major attempt was made through the Sachar Commission who ordered a headcount of Muslims in India's Defense Forces. Thanks to the Army Chief who firmly put his foot down to prevent the communal virus from infecting the Army. The second attempt was made when the Government of India filed the affidavit in the Supreme Court, in the Sethusamudram case wherein it QUESTIONED the very existence of Sri Ram. Now by sponsoring Tehelka, "Sting operation" it made a despicable third attempt to communalize the Indian Polity. What Tehelka "Sting operation" has done, clearly attracts Section 153A of the IPC and if Congress has not sponsored this "Sting operation" then it should not hesitate to prosecute Tehelka u/s 153A IPC. As Tehelka as well as the T.V. Channels who aired those tapes are headquartered at Delhi, it is the Delhi Police and consequently the Government of India to take the action.
What Tehelka "Sting operation" has done, clearly attracts Section 153A of the IPC and if Congress has not sponsored this "Sting operation" then it should not hesitate to prosecute Tehelka u/s 153A IPC. As Tehelka as well as th
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
What Tehelka "Sting operation" has done, clearly attracts Section 153A of the IPC and if Congress has not sponsored this "Sting operation" then it should not hesitate to prosecute Tehelka u/s 153A IPC. As Tehelka as well as the T.V. Channels who aired those tapes are headquartered at Delhi, it is the Delhi Police and consequently the Government of India to take the legal action against them u/s 153A IPC. Nobody could have had any grouse if "Tehelka" and the T.V. Channels had passed on those tapes to the Supreme Court, for suitable action, or even telecasted the so-called confessions of VHP activists or the BJP MLA for the information of the people. And, if indeed, those confessions are genuine and have any evidentiary value in them, then the law must take its course against those whose guilt is established. The real MISCHIEF that attracts Section 153A IPC is the JUXTAPOSITION AND INTERSPERSION of rising flames and bellowing smoke with the earlier recorded bytes of the Gujarat riots, accompanied with crashing cymbals, beats of drums, screaming voices, and the highly provocative comments of the 'anchors' of the channels that aired those tapes. There is a clear intention to inflame communal passions through what all was telecast in the name of "Gujarat ka Sach", and it would be dangerous for the future of the country if such a nefarious act goes unpunished by default of the UPA Government. Date: 29.10.2007 (B. P. SINGHAL) IPS. (Retd.), Ex-MP Rajya Sabha
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by ravishankar singh on Nov 15, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
Fact 1: That SHOOT AT SIGHT ORDERS had been given by the Government on 28th itself.
Being an Ex-DGP and also a Member of Parliament at that time, I was personally in touch with the office of DGP Gujarat and the Commissioner of Police Ahemedabad. I was keen to tell them, (a) To call in the Army at once and (b) To issue "SHOOT AT SIGHT" orders to all officers of the rank of Sub-Inspectors and above. It was very comforting to learn that the Government of Gujarat had already taken both those steps by 2.30 P.M. on 28th February itself. In fact the State Government had also requested for Armed Police reinforcements from neighboring states, besides calling for the Army.
Fact 2: On the 28th February itself 10 Hindus had been shot dead and 16 Hindus had been wounded by POLICE BULLETS.
Fact 3: On the next day i.e., 1st March an additional 24 Hindus were shot dead and 40 Hindus wounded by POLICE BULLETS.
Fact 4: In the entire period of riots total Hindu casualties were 80 shot dead, and 207 wounded by POLICE BULLETS alone. (But no Delhi-based media showed any interest in giving coverage to these casualties.)
Fact 5: The Muslim counter attack which commenced from 1st March 2002 was no less ferocious. In the first three days alone, out of a total of 611 deaths, 101 were caused by POLICE FIRING. Of these, 61 were Hindus and 40 were Muslims.
Fact 6: As on 5th of March, as many as 40,000 Hindus had had to be given shelter in Relief Camps. (There was plenty of media
Tataghata dont talk about RSS you dont have any morals to talk about RSS, Where are you? where you are hiding when commies are firing the poor people like birds, who is firing them? what to call them? terrorist?extrimist? tell me, no secularist ask or raise there fu**ing mouth, but somebody killed in riots or BJP ruling state the secularists talk much, fu**king hypocrites.
RE:Tataghata dont talk about RSS you dont have any morals to talk about RSS
by abhijeet kenkare on Nov 15, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
sombody, whose parents knew has born communist, was named TATA- GHATA . the one who would be a born advocate of causing nuisance(ghata) to industries (tata n their likes) shut up u bengali moron. why are intelligent and educated bengalis moving out of your marx's-left-overs'-ruled bengal? they feel shamed to be a part of the idiotic sequences of things and madness of the rulers. Im sure tat-ghata doesnt live in bengal.
I will give two instances that comes my mind when i read this vociferous suport for Modi & co in these msges.
No 1: It reminds me the overwhelming heros welcome & applause General Dyre got when he landed in England after commiting horrible grusome massacres of sikhs in Jaliyanawalabag,punjabin 1920.
No 2.It also reminds me about the unflinching support HITLER got from the German population for espousing a concept of super German race and branding Jews as worthless rodents & massacreing them.He also ended up destroying the same German nation & breaking it in to pieces as he lost WWII.
RE:Dont let Modi bring shame to Gujarat again!
by abhijeet kenkare on Nov 15, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
sombody, whose parents knew has born communist, was named TATA- GHATA . the one who would be a born advocate of causing nuisance(ghata) to industries (tata n their likes) shut up u bengali moron. why are intelligent and educated bengalis moving out of your marx's-left-overs'-ruled bengal? they feel shamed to be a part of the idiotic sequences of things and madness of the rulers. Im sure tat-ghata doesnt live in bengal.
RE:Dont let Modi bring shame to Gujarat again!
by pranav on Nov 15, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
history repeating in WB also, buddadev is pathetic he worst than a hitler, hitler killed jewes but he is killing his own people and poor farmers.
Anything the survey is showing but the ground reality is that the BJP is going to win the election with 2/3 majority and more than 130 seats. Whatever the rebels and Congress people say about the villagers and Dalits and Patels in Guajrat but one thing is sure that Patels and villagers are going to what for BJP only. BJP is not the party but it is the religion in Gujarat. This time even tribales will move away from Congress. There is not a single leader Congress has in entire nation who can challange Modi and stand in front of him.
Everybody is shouting there are lot of development in Gujrat during BJP rule? First of all I am not a supporter of any political party, congress, cpm or any other party. What development in Gujrat? I am settled in Delhi for last 15 years and I use to read almost all periodicals and news papers. I found that under BJP rule Gujrat has become a purely Hindu State. During their regime, a lot of godmans like Asaram Bapu, Ramesh Oza, etc etc have emerged and they are earning crores of money in the name of religion without paying a single rupee as tax and CM himself is supporting these activities. This Asaram Bapu has occuppied acres of land in the heart of Delhi illegally without the permission of any authority. These Godmans makes public fool and earn money by just speeches and dances (Even it is heard that Asaram Bapu performs Raas Leela on the Stage!!!) Whatever development is being going on in Development, the full credit goes to NRIs and Reliance group. What is role of Modi in this? He visits foreign countries every year and spend his holidays there. The Gujratis are wasting their money in constructing temples and ashrams. In Delhi they have constructed Akshardham temple at a cost of 100 Cr (on paper). This they are doing in a country where a majority of people in our country are living in streets and slums without a proper house and find very hard to have food for at least one time. But these people are selfish and they waste money for religion.
You are right, 100s of people are dying of lung diseases in Gujrat due to ship breaking industry:
Today apparently 50 per cent of the world's ship recycling is done in Alang GUJRAT by a work force of some 35,000.
Many of them earn a meager Rs 100 a day.
The white and blue asbestos found in the skeletons of these ships is one of the most toxic chemicals in the world. Prolonged exposure to asbestos guarantees a date with lung cancer a few years down the line.
These end-of-life ships, most of them built before laws regulated what a ship could be built from, may also contain PCB, lead and explosive materials. These materials damage the environment, the health of ship-breaking crews and cause serious accidents and explosives.
It is estimated that 300 people die each year in Alang.
RE:What Development?
by Sam on Nov 15, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
Power failure everyday in Noida, Delhi 24 hour 7 day a week power in Ahmedabad. Roads in Pune, Bangalore....roads to nowhere The best roads are in Gujarat with the best network. Don't tell you haven't seen traffic jam, not to mention killing buses !!!!
What development in Gujarat....Gujarat is far ahead of India.
BJP is interesting. Bollywood type street shooting, lynching people on street, buring people alive, sweating and asking for water when faced with direct questions by Karan Tapar on live TV and cutting short the interview, fooling around with illiterate people of the country telling them things like "hum italy jake ram ram bolega kya ? kya?? ( by modi the monster ) etc.. Congress is really boring . Two people who think straight are Manmohan and Sonia. They dont know the masala tricks. They dont know how to perform pooja to bring death on a political rival. They are educated people who fail to entertain the uneducated..
RE:BJP is Interesting!!
by Watchman on Nov 15, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
Hey Commie (Indian style) - did you see the Teesta Setalvad interview on BBC? She was literally raving when asked about how she was getting funded? Take the red flag from your face, buddy
The happenings in Pakistan is also a reminder to the Indian governement that if you sow hatred you will reap hatred. The recent incidents in Hyderabad when Owais the MP went on camera to say that he will cut the head of Taslima is an indication of things to come, at the same time there are Hindu extremists who are sayin the same thing in their strongholds. Also sikhs in punjab with the dera controversy. The essence of India is secularism and we need to preserve it. All forces who are communal needs to be nipped in the bud or it will be very difficult to control it in the future. It is difficult to preserve secularism but at the end it will pay off. As it has been doing all for the past centuries.
RE:A Reminder!!
by David Johnson on Nov 15, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
Have anybody heard about, Manavendra Singh Gohil, a member of the Rajpipla royal family, who is known as the 'gay prince' of Gujrat?
RE:RE:A Reminder!!
by Fantastic on Nov 15, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
David Johnson... Converted Christian......... Read only books who was written by vatican... Then Vomiting vatican dictation......... Ignorance of religion like Budhism,Jainism,Sikhism.............. Acceptance of foreign culture............. Ignorance of their own culture.........
Just go read Panchatantra............ good love story..............
Anything the survey is showing but the ground reality is that the BJP is going to win the election with 2/3 majority and more than 130 seats. Whatever the rebels and Congress people say about the villagers and Dalits and Patels in Guajrat but one thing is sure that Patels and villagers are going to what for BJP only. BJP is not the party but it is the religion in Gujarat. This time even tribales will move away from Congress. There is not a single leader Congress has in entire nation who can challange Modi and stand in front of him.
Today apparently 50 per cent of the world's ship recycling is done in Alang GUJRAT by a work force of some 35,000.
Many of them earn a meager Rs 100 a day.
The white and blue asbestos found in the skeletons of these ships is one of the most toxic chemicals in the world. Prolonged exposure to asbestos guarantees a date with lung cancer a few years down the line.
These end-of-life ships, most of them built before laws regulated what a ship could be built from, may also contain PCB, lead and explosive materials. These materials damage the environment, the health of ship-breaking crews and cause serious accidents and explosives.
It is estimated that 300 people die each year in Alang.
RE:Shame on Modi
by Joyee Funee on Nov 15, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
What Modi has to shame for it? If your Bihar and Kerala wud have give job opputtunity then this meagere migrant for Rs. 100 wage wud have never come to Alang Moreoover Supreme court also allowed the breaking of such ships and said it is not hamrful after the petition launceh by enviormentalist It is estimated more then 10000 childrens die of hunger in India every month That why donts u shame of central govt.? Why sub standard wheat is imported at hight price by UPA ? Shame on UPA and Manmohan Singh
RE:Shame on Modi
by David Johnson on Nov 15, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
The information I have given is based on Rediff, just search the key words you will get the infor
