CPM is very cleaver, cleaverer than any political or intelligence system in the world
by Closo on Nov 13, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink | Hide replies
After fulfilling their desire Commie Govt has invited/allowed CRPF to come in. All thier works have been done by using their slave polices. CPM is very cleaver, cleaverer than any political or intelligence system in the world. But what is the use of it?? No it has a great use, selfishly destroy everything. We are also stupid, timid idiot, can nothing but writing. Can hide inside the cabin and write. Spineless, selfish bengalies are going to destry for sure if they do not wake immediately. Who cares???
Speaking at the recently concluded India Today Conclave on "India Tomorrow: Perception and Reality." VS Naipaul passed judgment that "Bengal was the economic and intellectual leader of India till it discovered Marxism. It discovered Marxism and like poor Russia in 1917, committed suicide. The economic lead of Bengal has vanished and so has the cultural lead." (See The Hindu of February 26). While cultural development cannot be quantified, economic growth can be and the evidence before us suggests that Sir Vidia's opinion takes more than just poetic license with the facts. The facts are that after 1993-94 West Bengal has the second highest growth rate with 7.2% with only Karnataka (8.1%) ahead of it. It would also seem that the Marxist rate of growth has been better than the Hindu rate of growth since India only grew at 6.3% during this period?
Even in terms of growth of per capita income West Bengal has fared much better than all other states during the post reforms era. It achieved an average growth of 5.5% after 1993-94 as opposed to the nationwide growth of 4.3%. This is even more revealing when you consider that during this period West Bengal was also racking up an average annual population growth of 1.78% between 1991-2001, which is much higher than the rate of the high achievers like Tamil Nadu (1.11%). If one were to consider the population growth since 1981, West Bengal grew at 2.34%, which is uncomfortably close to the national average of 2.51%. Undoubtedly the seem
RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by dumdum on Nov 13, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
fared much better?where you got those statistics? In CPIM office?these are incorrect numbers . i think bengalis cant work in bengal thats why they run away from their state.The only thin bengalis know is eat rice and fish and discuss politics.
RE:RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by dumdum on Nov 13, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
another commie here.just tell me one very very simple thing.which industries are there in west bengal? can u name a single one?
RE:RE:RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by dumdum on Nov 13, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
excluding pune and nagpur.if u exclude kolkata from west bengal your income is well below ethiopia or eritrea. the living standards and education is so low in WB that it can compete only with bihar.
RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by Fab Reens on Nov 13, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
The Guardian, January 5: The paper quoted Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattachajee as saying that India must learn the lessons of history and "reform, perform or perish". When you start with a low base, your growth rate seems higher (called the base effect). It was only when the danda was well up the behind that the leftists woke up and this is in the last few years only. A few years do not make history. If other countries have given up communism after decades of experimenting with it - there are many reasons for it. But you probably don't want to debate that and just gloss over some immediate facts. That's not going to cut any ice with the rest of India, pal!
RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by abhi on Nov 13, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
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Undoubtedly the seemingly uncontrollable and unabated migration from Bangladesh has contributed to this relatively high growth of population. Whatever are the reasons for this we can only surmise that the rise in par capita incomes would have been even higher if there was no influx from the neighboring countries like Nepal and Bangladesh, and even neighboring states like Bihar and Orissa?
Even more interesting is the fact that per capita incomes of West Bengal and Maharashtra, after excluding the two great metros of Mumbai and Kolkata are fairly close. West Bengal's per capita after excluding Kolkata is Rs. 12,671 while Maharashtra's without Mumbai is Rs.13, 897. Thus, even if we accept for a moment that VS Naipaul is correct in assuming that West Bengal has a Marxist system, its performance is not too bad compared to what then must be the most laissez-faire of our states - Maharashtra. We can be certain that if the per capita incomes of other two big cities of Maharashtra - Pune and Nagpur - are excluded, the state's per capita income will be below that of West Bengal. Unfortunately Naipaul's moving mouth having spoken will move on while the words will linger on.
This performance is quite extraordinary when you factor in the dominant reality of rural West Bengal in that it ranks third from the bottom in terms of irrigated acreage with only 28.1% of its agricultural land irrigated. This is when it is the third most densely agricultural state in India with almos
RE:Development in West Bengal!!!
by abhi on Nov 13, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
continue... This is when it is the third most densely agricultural state in India with almost 77% of its land area under the plough. If like Punjab or Haryana with 89.72% and 65.0% respectively of agricultural acreage irrigated, West Bengal too were to benefit from centrally financed irrigation and centrally subsidized procurement, it would be fair to assume that its economic performance would have been even of a higher order. Then even without a communist system, the communist regime in West Bengal would have perhaps had a sustained growth rate closer to that of China?
Between 1984 and 2001, industrial capital investment in West Bengal only increased fourfold when it grew by more than seven times in the rest of India. This also coincided with the decline in the value addition of West Bengal industry from 8.8% in 1984-5 to 4.0% in 2000-1. During the same period the number of industries in the state was almost static - 5369 to 6091 - when it grew from almost 97,000 to almost 131,000 for India. Even worse was that during this period the numbers employed in these industries declined by almost half, from 917,000 to about 456,000.
all the parties who oppose the tyranny of CPM should immediately make Videos of the violence and excess commited by the CPM.In the coming elections they can use it effectively, espcially in kerala where elctions are won by low margins it can be shown how the CPM kill rape and maim the helpless poor. No peace loving citizen will vote for such criminals again.
There is rumours in the stock market that the leftists have softened their stand further against N-Deal and might be ready to support it. The market reacted with Sensex scaling over 400 points in jubilation. Looks like peace has been 'bought' with communists after all. For all their posturing and affirmations that the Deal was against national interests, leftists are now at peace having secured money (most probably) and shanti in Nandigram. Sigh, now we can all move on with our lives - HA HA WHAT A BUNCH OF JOKERS!
If a party rules for > 30 years, we have to accept one truth. Either people are unaware of what is happening outside (or) Govt. is coercive. Which one of the above 2 is happening in WB?
Kudos to Sanjib Basu and Abhijeet for strongly conveying the messages of the leaders.No doubt people outside W BEngal are unware they are also jealouus abt progress made under communist rule.
According the media, what we are thinking or discussing in this forum is totally wrong.
I am not a communist, I hate them also.
But the initiative taken by Communist Gov to setup SEZ is really a good ititiative for economic development of the state and the local people. Eventhough that is a fertile land, that entire area is much underdeveloped still now and Moiest are functioning freely. So they want the area kept undeveloped. It is wonder that even BJP is also dancing according to there tune. After several years the BDB led WB Gov takes a right decision for development the state. Surely this type of initiatives will do good for the poor former families and state.
But what I didnot understand is Even BJP also politizize the issue, One side Gov for development, other side BUPC TMC,and BJP for cheap politics.
A a group of worthless and hopeless BJP people in this forum worthlessly making statements.
We should sacrifise something for development. People should understand this first. The Gov is send them out with fee handly, they are ready to give the morket price and alternative place. One could expect anything more than this? This is not only for the sake of them, but for their own generations. Otherwise WB is washed out from the industrial grouth.
Eventhough it is a fertile land it is nothing wrong to construct a TATA factory or SEZ there. That will leads to the economic grouth. Instead of supportng that Advani, Matha Patker also opposing, that very
I don't know and don't want to reply about the people leaving outside WestBengal, knowing noting about communism and about West Bengal Polictics. Are u people aware who is the first to start the conflict. Nobody else but Mamta Banerjee & Co. She never want to c Weat Bengal going thru smoothly. She is the biggest mennace in the Weat Bengal Politics.After the Govt. had drooped the proposal of SEZ in nandigram, she is the only one who refused to drop the weapon. More than 3500 people was homeless for more than 10 months, their houses were gutted and women rapped by the TMC goons. Where were the intellectuals at that time? where are u people at that time? Do u know the real picture of Nandigram? Please know first before posting any comments. Its easy to write something but difficult to face it. There is a Proverb" Pen is mighter than sword" A request to the media personnel, PLEASE DON'T MISUSE IT.
RE:RE:NANDIGRAM INCIDENT
by abhijit on Nov 13, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Unfortunately..its just spice to most of em... N some easy publicity for some not-so-wanted intellectuals...
RE:RE:NANDIGRAM INCIDENT
by abhi on Nov 13, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
If person is not sell his land, how govt can force him to do so? CPM workers has put fired houses and rapped in Sonachur,garhchakraberiya,Smatabad - Midnapur area. This information is provided by people who were returning once buddhadeb has declared ceasefire and asked them to go back and CPM workers attacked them. They are hospitalized in Tamluk hospital.
Why center is not taking action eventhough CPM workers dont allow CRPF to enter nandigram and even regional congress is oppsonig?
Bloody local newspapers are also not reporting this. Why leaders like yechuri,karat who demands resignation of Modi are silent.
They are blaming Gopal gandi, the governor who is grandson of Mahatma gandhi and Rajgopalchari.
The fact is that CPM, in its 30 years of ruling, placed their party people and tht's why CRPF cant enter the area comprising of 130 Gram Panchayatas.
Please, people wake up and oppose this communist and inhuman act of CP in this democratic country.
Even NDTV yesterday was supporting CPm. Why national media is silent and are not allowed to enter nandigram?
RE:RE:NANDIGRAM INCIDENT
by Fab Reens on Nov 13, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
The fact is, Mr. Basu, that you Bengalis have been asleep for many decades now and have lost touch with reality. How else can you explain the continued "rule" of communists there for so long when the world over they are a dying breed?!? Get out of your state once in a while and see for yourself what's happening in the rest of the country to open your eyes and mind (MAYBE)!
RE:RE:NANDIGRAM INCIDENT
by Vinay Kumar Gupta on Nov 13, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
I agree with u Fab. In democracy no one rely on single party for 30-35 years. Either bengalis have been made slave or they have lost the power to think
RE:RE:RE:NANDIGRAM INCIDENT
by abhi on Nov 13, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
These communist leaders Vardhan, yechuri, karat are maligning modi over riots since last 5 years.
But their philosohy says: "kill the people if needed but force them to follow ideology"
Wht development they are doing? WB's economy is continuously falling day by day(growth of 2% over inflation of 3.5%. Actual growth is -1.5%)
CPM want to purchase land from farmers at cheap rate but want to sell this land at very high rate to Industrialists.
Everbody can do this. What Buddhadeb has done anything extraordinary.
Well, I see most of you speakers have great versions of truth without even having seen West Bengal in your life. For all BJP folks speaking for the aam-aadmi, find out which is the cheapest state to live in, to get education... An for guys saying Naxal n Maoists are with CPI(M), gimme a break folks...they hv a declared alliance with TMC... Whats happening is bad, but do not blame CPI(M) for it, if thieves enter your house and you retaliate, its not called violence but self defence. Understand, it has been wrongly executed, but Naxals, TMC as an alliance, plundered these villages for all these months under false banners of Bhoomi Bachao Party n stuff even after it was declared that no land will be occupied...the villages were severed from civilization by digging off roads and became a haven for anti-social actvities, now the villagers retaliate...if they are seeking political refuge, I do not blame them... The situation shouldn't have been allowed to go this far, CRPF should have been called in earlier but am I blaming it on CPI(M)...not in my wildest dreams...n for you out there...know things before shouting else u'll just end up strining ur lungs.
RE:A lot of false stuff...
by Fab Reens on Nov 13, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
Hey abhijit, stop deflecting attention from reality to TMC or anything else. For years WB stagnated while many other states saw great leaps in labour relations, industrial growth, better infrastructure.. It's only lately that the leftists have woken up to the potential of capitalism and started adopting policies that show some growth. As far as cheap stuff goes there may be plenty in WB but who the hell wants it? Wake up and smell the coffee, man!
RE:A lot of false stuff...
by Vinay Kumar Gupta on Nov 13, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
Abhi, there is no doubt that CPM does not like opposition. They are anti democratic. The proof is that in democracy no one can survive for 30 years in Govt. Thre is bound to be dissatisfaction. At leat margins of win / no of seat are going to be reduced. V
But it didnot happened in WB Which means some foul game. And why they donot allow other parties to function? Why they hate TMC/BJP/RSS/ Anand margis. Why CPM is intolerant.
JNU u see. If they occupy a place it is difficult to dislodge them . Why? because CPM rule through their cadre which is lumpen/ goon. Same is happening in Nandigram. Why Mamta Banarjee , who represent people cannot go there. Why CPM goons have entered that area?
