RE:Person below says muslims are the most violent
by Vinaya Das on Nov 10, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
There is no point in blaming other people for our own weaknesses. We Hindus must think why is it that we get converted and we dont convert others to our fold. It is because of our disgraceful caste system and a polity devoid of any leadership and central organisation.Our problem is that if we convert a Christian or a Muslim we will have to treat him as a dalit even if he was a learned person, like Ambedkar.We Hindus must clean our own house and stop blaming others for our plight.
RE:RE:Person below says muslims are the most violent
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
One more thing Vinaya "untouchabity" was a disgraceful practise agreed,has shame of slavery practise by even the churched stoped them fromconverting the poor needy people,NO. So why do you beleive christains and muslims should not be converted inspite of the wrecked cat system.Think over it,when you have no problem with christains past practise of slavery,coonisation and anti semitism ,hence defend their right to convert people,but at the same time do not wont to forget only one past draw back of the hindus.
RE:Person below says muslims are the most violent
by eagle on Nov 10, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
Maybe these operations are covert by the hindu leaders. Coz I dont blame the entire hindu community for these actions. There are always dont by leaders with ulterior motives, pride and stupidity.
Muslims are soft targets for all Poltical Parties and their Goons. Mulsims are being used for their Malacious purpose. Its common for Politician to divide Indians on caste, religion, regional and language line and take advantage. The fact is Muslim community are Leaderless. There Education and Economic situation should be of grave concern if we realy want to be developed nation.. People say appeasement while current Muslim condition is Pitiable For example Government employability is below 1%. They are lacking in all sphere. Its time Govt. should work out for Programe for the upliftment of Mulsims and to bring them back to the mainstream.
RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 04:10 AM Permalink
Muslims are targeted by political parties not because they are soft but because they are most violent group of people ,who vote en mass for pity political benefits for their community and not for the wellfare of all people or deveopment.Muslims are lagging behind because educated Kalam and azim premji are not their icons,but their icons are bin laden.Taht's the reason why laloo and paswan chose bin laden's look a like to woo musim votes.No governemnt help is enough to them unless they dont help themself.
RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by sharetheworld on Nov 10, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
Your comment is outright stupid! I mean do you think BJP would have risen to power if they had not used Ayodhya issue and would have talked about developed. Ask yourself if you would support BJP if they talk about nation and not just Hindu pride. Everyone's is the same dude.. and politician take benefit of that, be it Laloo or Modi
RE:RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 06:29 AM Permalink
Which community has set the trend of my religion first development later is it hindus or muslims ?you answer.Laloo and paswan are no fools to flaunt bin laden look a like,they very well know how the muslim cyche works,whereas BJP also knowns how hindu cyche works hence they dont flaunt "prabhakaran's" look a like.
RE:RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
Thankx for agreeing that laloo and paswan are not bin laden look alike,but they have to find one,to get votes from oh so "secular muslims". Thankx again for esposing the hidden face of our secular muslim bhais.Secular hindus are you their guys to read this post.
RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by ProNation on Nov 10, 2007 02:59 PM Permalink
I think...u r showing ur stupidity by bringing BJP into the discussion and interested for a hot discussion. Think above the party line...not only BJP but all other parties are playing this dirty game for wooing the minority votes. Behave like a literate...think and tell me..how many have ideolized Mr. Kalam or Mr. Premzi...i am sure you will get the answer. God can't help those who can't help themselves.
RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by Rajeev on Nov 10, 2007 07:27 AM Permalink
Muslims are not the soft targets. They always show only one thing against Hindu. Muslims do not want to go to good school, b'z they think modern schools are against Islam. Majority of muslims live in India but always praise Pakistan, do not condemn terrorism b'z they are muslims.
Political parties like Congress, Lalu, Mulayam have been exploiting Muslims but muslim think that they are the good for them. In Bihar & UP Mulayam/Lalu made the Urdu as second language of the state, muslims were happy. But what will happen with this kind of political move it is not going to help Muslims.
For majority of young muslims role model is Bin Laden or Dawwod Ibrahim not the Abdul Kalam or Ajim Prem Jee, Mukesh Ambani, Irfan Pathan.
RE:RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by sameer on Nov 10, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
its wat you think , Muslims favor pak becos of teh step motherly treatment tehy get here.They dont have role models in Bin laden but they wud not want to Bum lick Bush like hindus are doin rite now for just a few pieces of dollars
RE:RE:RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
Thankx for agreeing muslims support pak onpenly,we need people like you to open eyes of blind Hindu Secularist,atleast the one who are blogging here.
RE:We should all work for Musim Upliftment
by Another Convert on Nov 10, 2007 11:54 PM Permalink
All have equal rights to follow the principles that adhere to. This is how a nation should be. One takes religion and caste when one feels insecure and incompetent.
Religion is a faith. No infant is born with a particular faith. We are all humans first. The faith brings order in this apparently chaotic world, and brings meaning to life. Beware of the priests who divert this objective of religion. Religious principles have always been bent and twisted to the advantage of this class of people.
Any intolerence will lead to deaths. History is replete with examples. No one benefits. No one. Germans thought they could get mob support by anti-Jewish sentiments. But look what happened to Germany by the end of the war - destroyed, its women jumping into rivers to commit suicide. It's the kind of horrors communalism could bring to this country.
Any party that talks about religion need to be abhorred by people. They should have no place in the modern world.
It is said that every form of government degenerates into something undesirable. Democracy could degenerate into mob rule, unless we all take steps in time.
RE:Cow slaughter is banned in Karnataka - why still Congress, other minority appear parties never say anything?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 09, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
RE:Cow slaughter is banned in Karnataka - why still Congress, other minority appear parties never say anything?
by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 10, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
Mukherjee is an Paki founded by ISI to spread hatred among Hindus.. So that most Muslim can be used as terrorist!!! Stop commenting on His lies!! We all know wht is happening in Pakistan ... When they went ahead with Hate India campaign ... Mukherjee is being deputed by ISI to replicate Pakistani model in india!!! Murkherje post should be reported as abuse
RE:What RK Narayan said on Missionary Schools in his auto-biography
by r patil on Nov 09, 2007 09:58 PM Permalink
The truth of the matter is christainity and islam's very foundation is "hate of idol worship" and "hate of pagan gods" hence teaching hatered for hinduism is common to them. The fact is indian government has failed us in providing good public schools and not only that they have tied the hands of "hindu religious schools" by not giving them any special benefits like the minority institutions where they are heaviy subsidised and tax freed.Hence hindus should stop sending their kids to christain schools and force governemnt to either set up good public school or give subsidece and economic benefits to hindu run schools or last thing hindus could do is home teach their children as in the america.
RE:What RK Narayan said on Missionary Schools in his auto-biography
by eagle on Nov 10, 2007 07:39 AM Permalink
Its not that the government failed to provide good schooling. But you failed to learn from the schools. There are millions of people who have come shining out of their studies from government schools becoz they put effort. You are sitting at home blaming the government for not doing anything huh.
And christianity does not teach hate. It teaches that Idol worship is wrong becoz you cannot call a cow or anything you see on earth as god as you have not seen god with your own eyes.
If you have seen god with your own eyes then you can fight for it.
Dont be stupid you try to see god. then talk. If you havent then atleast learn now to do that
RE:What RK Narayan said on Missionary Schools in his auto-biography
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Hindus worship animals or stones or they remain atheists its not your business neither christainities business to judge us.Governemnt of India which was controlled by congrees for the last 50yrs have faied us ,inspite of taxing us heavily and subsidising minority institutions largely they did not create top class public school.Look at the situations of public school were they dont even have enough schools to accomadate children for a particular area,nor do they have enough quality teachers. The people who have come shinning out public schools are mostly people of older retired generation,when the teachers and schools ever enough for population which attained school,it is not the case now.
RE:What RK Narayan said on Missionary Schools in his auto-biography
by sameer on Nov 10, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
wat they teach in missionary schools is also not ur business ,why cant u just send ur kids to hindu school.You know ur not capable of that,in the end u want ur sons to go to christian west or muslim middle east and earn $$
RE:What RK Narayan said on Missionary Schools in his auto-biography
by r patil on Nov 10, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Sameer bhai what missionery school and madarsa teaches is very much our business,because they are subsidised by INDIAN TAX payer money only because they are comparitely less in number,though the amout of schools and college they can open is not made restricted to their corresponding population.If hindus stop their children from going to missionery school,what will happen to the montesreies were thosands of nuns and padaris livelihood are completely depenable on the fees they get from hindus. WIll our secular govrnment agree to subsidised HINDU schools which preach hate towards christainity and islam,NO theywont even allow such a non-subsidesed school also to survive.
Kangress after independence opted for a liscence raj which was controlled organized corruption. In order to get elected they magrinalised the majority and introduced religious corrpution to consistently get minority votes... It's so common for the Majority to accept the Kangress minority appeasement that people were shocked that no other country follows this morally corrupt practise. Just take this Case of Shah Bano case... Follow this truth..
Shah Bano, a 62 year old Muslim woman and mother of five from Indore, Madhya Pradesh, was divorced by her husband in 1978. Shah Bano, because she had no means to support herself and her children, approached the courts for securing maintenance from her husband. The Supreme Court invoked Section 125 of Code of Criminal Procedure, which applies to everyone regardless of caste, creed, or religion. It ruled that Shah Bano be given maintenance money, similar to alimony. The orthodox Muslims in India felt threatened by what they perceived as an encroachment of the Muslim Personal Law. They formed an organization known as the All India Muslim Personal Law Board and threatened to agitate in large numbers in all major cities. Prime Minister, Rajiv Gandhi, whose Government had absolute majority passed the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 to dilute the secular judgment of the Supreme Court.
RE:Why did BJP became communal?
by QandA on Nov 09, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
USA is what it is 'Cos their leaders worked for the common good FOR ALL PEOPLE. They had DARING LEADERS WHO THINK BEYOND THEIR TIME.. JUST FOLLOW THE SUPREME COURT RULINGS OF USA. They protected the people right to have freedom of expresion and now U have the 20 billion dollar Sex industry. SEX in artistic form was withold by the Supreme court of USA.
Take the MIRINDA rights case. A criminal was let free 'Cos the police did not let him know HIS RIGHTS TO HAVE A LAWER. Since then at the time of arrest the police have to recite MIRINDA rights..
Take the case of separation of Church and State, take the rulings on Affirmitive action (Justifiable reservation), Take the cases of Anti competitive practises by corporations...
America is prosporous cos the Supreme COurt has people with Daring IDEAS that lasts beyond peoples lives... Technology can be invented but the level playing FIELD FOR individuals to proper using that technology has be supported .
The SUPREME COURT HAS TO BE SUPREME LAW FOR THE LAND AND NO MUSLIM OR OTHER RELIGIONS CAN BE ABOVE THAT LAW...
When that happens HINDUS and other minoroties can work on historical reconciliation...
RE:Why did BJP became communal?
by QandA on Nov 09, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
Whenever some Muslims popular personality was tried to be prosecuted they invoke their Muslimness to tried to duck the law.. Take Azhar's match fixing corruption or take Salman's road side beggars(some of whom were muslims) killings or now take Sanjay Dutts acting innonce unless the law is crushed in PEOPLES EYES THERE THE ENGINE OF PROSPARITY CANNOT BE REALIZED BY ALL PEOPLE...
It is a well known fact all over the world that BJP is a narrow minded North & West Indian Hindu Communal Force, which survives on the hate propogated against Islam.Muslims and other minority groups like Christianity in India. Its parent organisation is in this profession since long time and BJP was created solely for the purpose of reaping political benefits out of its communal activities.
As it rose, it will surely fall down and would be decimated in the near future, because prayers of innocent people/victims will not go unanswered by the GOD. So, if it tries to show itself a nationalist or patriotic or secular force, will only be a mask, as everybody knows its true character and culture. It is pity that people of Karnataka, who gained the image of intelligent and secular people will get the tag of communal and Karnataka a communal State like Gujarat, Maharashtra or any other North Indian State.
Like Gujarat, Karnataka has every chance to become a Hindu Communal Laboratory like Gujarat, as these communal forces already have issues like Idgah Maidan, Basavarappa shrine etc. in their hands.
Let us pray almighty to save Karnataka and its people from these communal and criminal forces.
Also pray almighty God to give good sense to people of Karnataka to elect secular party for forming the government next time.
RE:BJP is a Communal Force.
by r patil on Nov 09, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
sam read todays rajdeep's article in ibnlive at last rajdeep did agree that hindu-muslim haterate is long fault line running in our society from many centuries,it is not created by BJP's.If you guys really want hindu-muslim unity you must support parties like BJP which promotes unity of all hindus ,instead of parties like congress,rjd,ncp,bsp,dmk which only thrive on dividing hindus on cast ines and uniting all shias,sunnis,catholics,christains under the minority tag.If hindus are united only then you can force the so called "minorities" to join the main stream without asking for special benefits.
RE:BJP is a Communal Force.
by sameer on Nov 10, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
they are being occupied just as the British did in India .and india is licking their bum.No muslim country is attcking other country its west which is attcking middleeast for oil.but i guess being hindu u can easily be stupid
RE:Irresponsible
by antiCongress antiBJP on Nov 10, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
In this Diwali occasion, BJP/RSS must leave Sri Ram, because the festival is a victory against evil. When will be the people's victory against these devils?
RE:what's the reason?
by antiCongress antiBJP on Nov 10, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
In this Diwali occasion, BJP/RSS must leave Sri Ram, because the festival is a victory against evil. When will be the people's victory against these devils?
RE:what's the reason?
by Lijjat Papad on Nov 09, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
wouldn't that very same land served as homes and agricultural plots for landless and homeless dalits and tribals? who gave u the authority to lease out land to criminals without thought for your own people?
