We advocate full fledge war to teach lesson to Pakistan once for all. Why???? What is wrong when a lesson is taught to evil mined people who brunt the train. There is no riot or terrorist activity in Gujrat after that. So I am firm believer that if we teach them that is only solution to those who chant for Pakistan. Load Ram or may Goddess killed may evils. And military/soldiers chant RAM/Jesus/WaheGuru when they kill enemy. So what is wrong if one chants god and kill useless guys. Our justice system is so pathetic; people are bound to take law in his hand. Advocate whatever you want. But we will support such person who dared to teach them lesson.
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by Red Pascal on Nov 07, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
So let's agree to all these points, still does not justify state sponsered killing in response. If a foreign power is fingering us, we are walking right into their trap by responding in this manner
No use of law or discussion on pro or cons. Its a new trend and a major drawback of virtual two party system, which our gentleman priminister thinks as good for india. whatever anybody names on earlier flare ups are in a very small scale compared to this. Forcast- any body may wrongly use in future such kind of power, if present indian will not learn lesson from moody ways. Be transparent, Punish anything not good in terms of humanity. Don't see in terms of religion. otherwise these politicians will always take advantage of it.
In any socity where corruption is rampant what is the use of showing some one taking money? It is a challenge to any boby and everybody to do any thing without paying extra money from top to bottom. When there is no value to standard then and people are hired and fired on cast and party affilation then happyness is expressed when some harm happened to opposite party. Right or wrong then people also take chances whenever it is handy to take thing in their onw hand. It become more relevant when there is no law or it is there for namesake. So what we are trying to so which is already accepted in socityand amply in knowledge of everybody. In our country only in our country people live harmoniously without any differing opinion about a living being but same people are tought lessons of equality etc by the people who follow a distant culture where people are converted to even live and do labour work. Hence sting operation of indian type are of no use as result of such operation is only to show the things as documentary. Requirement or better thing is to do is to research such rampant matter and try to find out some solution for the same.
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by Red Pascal on Nov 07, 2007 05:29 PM Permalink
Let all your points about Godhra be true,there is no state govt colluding with one religion to harm another involved in the train incident and all your points about Godhra still does not justify the government getting involved in killing people of one religion. So what about your denial mode of the
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by S S on Nov 07, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
forget the proof,if the crime was commited,does the killing of 2000 civilians justify it. People who were killed girls who were raped do you think they all went to burn that train.Think about it, you named yourself truth seeker but you want to go as far away from it as you can.
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by S S on Nov 07, 2007 05:06 PM Permalink
dint the people who took part in the massacre had the herd mentality too,they acted like that.
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by Red Pascal on Nov 07, 2007 05:30 PM Permalink
They were not killed by goons supported by the government.
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by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 07, 2007 04:57 PM Permalink
For your kind information,According to Nanavati report which was independently formed,Godhra Incident was an accident. Godhra Carnage is inconclusive.. If anyone is behind it,why those people are not arrested.. Godhra Burning was an accident.. Got it. Have u witnessed the Riots.. But i have seen the Riots with my open eyes.. Mob of 100 people used to attack muslims & rape their women.
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by Sonu Madhavan on Nov 07, 2007 05:08 PM Permalink
we know what nanavati report is
the train was locked for outside. Railway police guards fired several rounds to diband the mob. 100 litres of petrol was sprayed on teh boggies then it was lighted. if it was not locked form outside then people will have got out of the train or if the mob was not there some one from the train or a security gurad would have opend the door and a lot of lifes would be saved. and you want clarifications haaaa
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by Perv Sharma on Nov 07, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
Why aren't they doing it again today ? MODI is the Ruler ? Why isn't it happening again during Elections ?
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by adfasd asdasd on Nov 07, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
Dont tell us this....tell us what you want to justify???
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by adfasd asdasd on Nov 07, 2007 04:57 PM Permalink
Yes i completely condemn the burning of the people and the bogie....i think they should be hanged and i think manhy have been given that punishment as well. I think 100 people have been convicted.
But since you posted on this forum you wanted to justify the gujarat riots...if thats not the case then i am with you friend all the way.
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by Red Pascal on Nov 07, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
The Jehadi is not paid for by my tax money, the government is, so I hold the government to a higher standard and do not expect it to do the biddings of one religion.
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by Manoj M on Nov 07, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
What he wants to tell you is that it was a Congress led Muslim crowd which was doing this to ensure that the occupants of the Godhra train bogie are burnt completely? Now would you understand or you need some further clarification?
the number of hits and hate comments on this forum against each other proves the fact that we are sitting on a time bomb....which only needs an ignition...
Mind you people a mob, rioters and terrorists have no religion...but i think many people will only realise this when devils brandishing swords and bombs get into their house.
Bush played the fear factor in the US election and won it. His main agenda was saying that he will protect the citizens from terrorists and the people belived him and voted him not knowing that they were voting for the biggest terrorist in the world. In the same way modi is playing the fear factor with hindus and the hindus are elated bcoz they see modi like a saviour but in the end he is also a big terrorist.
Why tehalka or cobra post expose to selected party or persons and you select the timingtoo.We ascitizen of india have right to know why you show what you want to show and when to show just to benefit others.Can anyone have courage to show concern what you did to delhi teacher.Can any one return her prestige .Who have given you right to expose without knowing the fill truth.What you did in Patna ,You people named one MLA But the body of alleged RESHMA was never recovered.YOU ALL PEOPLE SIT NAD THINK TWICE OTHER WISE Patna incidence repeated every where.
RE:now its time to introspect ourself
by Red Pascal on Nov 07, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
Tehalka was not involved in Delhi or Patna, and Tehalka hasa history of doing stings that have stood upto courts and govt inquiries that tried to show them as false but could not,so it has some credibility. Switch the question around,what if what Tehalka has shown is true,what is your response to that ?
