RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by seculartraitor on Nov 07, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
these idiots support Hindu cleansing in kashmir. they are true Talibanis
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 07, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:12 PM Permalink
I was in Bangla desh recently & saw that Durga Puja is celebrated with big fanfare!
The talk of ethnic purging is a lie!
I read the local newspapers. One news caught my attention.
The Harijan children held a meeting against the second grade treatment given to them by their higher caste Hindus Dadas. The Harijan children demanded that they must be allowed to attend the same school as the high caste Hindu students attend.
Hindus are in minority in Bangladesh & still the high caste Hindu rascals want to perpetrate inequality among themselves. Third rate idiots!
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Nov 07, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
I'm starting to doubt that you are one of those illegal Bangladeshi that nationalist forces trying to throw out of India.
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
Great response! Just like your thinking! But I donot leave my level & become personal. Sorry, I belong to civilized society. Casting personal aspersions on others is not allowed in my culture.
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by Ahmad Shamim on Nov 07, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
There can't be any justification to killings of human beings be it at Godhra or post Godhra riots. Does the religion whoever says himself to be a true hindu or a muslim; can never justify any killings. We should not be guilty of supporting the crimes which we did not do beacuse that also makes us a part of the crime. I feel sorry to see so much hatred here and that people justifying killings against fellow humans just because they do not happen to be co-religionist. Hey guys, understand one thing, there goes a saying''Never fight for your belief, you never know you might be wrong''. Religion is a person's choice; his way of living a life and no religion teaches you to kill humans. I am a muslim and still i dont wish anything bad for Mr. Modi, i just wish he realises what is humanity and what is human suffering at the hands of a fellow human being. You can't live with peace with so much hatred within you guys. Be a true Hindu and a true Muslim an speak truth for your religion--speak for love and compassion not hatred and killings.
RE:World's worst ethno-religious cleansing is still aking place in Eastern Bengal --does anybody care?
by marx dsouza on Nov 07, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
Well Said
I would like to make one point here, much has been written about Gujarat Riots,CM Narendra Modi's so called support to the rioteers. But interestingly the event that led to these riots is being shadowed.Godhra train massacre is being deliberately being put on the back front.
When there were riots during 1992-93 in Mumbai,the reason cited for those riots was demolition of Babri Masjid at Ayodhya.And these so called secularists were time and again pronouncing the reason behind the riots as demolition of Babri Masjid, But in case of Godhra,these pseudo-secularists have conviniently forgotten about Godhra incident where 60 Hindus were burnt alive in train. I'm surprised no one is talkinjg about Godhra,everyone is only making noise about what happened after Godhra,will anybody raise queries regarding Godhra event? How can people forget that tragic incident where 60 Hindus were burnt alive? Or only because Muslims were worst hit in the riots,so secularists will talk about that only?
RE:Tehelka on Gujarat Riots
by Ahmad Shamim on Nov 07, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
There can't be any justification to killings of human beings be it at Godhra or post Godhra riots. Does the religion whoever says himself to be a true hindu or a muslim; can never justify any killings. We should not be guilty of supporting the crimes which we did not do beacuse that also makes us a part of the crime. I feel sorry to see so much hatred here and that people justifying killings against fellow humans just because they do not happen to be co-religionist. Hey guys, understand one thing, there goes a saying''Never fight for your belief, you never know you might be wrong''. Religion is a person's choice; his way of living a life and no religion teaches you to kill humans. I am a muslim and still i dont wish anything bad for Mr. Modi, i just wish he realises what is humanity and what is human suffering at the hands of a fellow human being. You can't live with peace with so much hatred within you guys. Be a true Hindu and a true Muslim an speak truth for your religion--speak for love and compassion not hatred and killings.
RE:Tehelka on Gujarat Riots
by Sandip Joglekar on Nov 08, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
We all educated agree that all killings and all sorts of violence by anyone needs to be condemned but the sad part is mini-Pakistans in India go unnoticed bcos those are votebanks. If all of us are so liberal, why not discount a piece of land for lord Rama's temple instead of fighting for grave of some ruler. We all know that rulers like babar invaded india and converted/looted so many. Why don't any liberal muslims come ahead and support that cause? Before even BJP picked up the ayodhya issue it was burning for dcades with no much political support. If any muslim cause is supported to protect votebank, then why not hindu cause? This mockery of democracy is the root cause of all. We should have only educated people voting for politicians and only then expect some sense in whats happening in this countyr. If that happens educated peoples' issue will be taken up and all sensible policies like mentioned by u guys will work on ground.
RE:Tehelka on Gujarat Riots
by Moinuddin Rahmatulla on Nov 07, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
Both were acts of utter shame and cowardness.Had Modi wanted he cud have punished da guilty,did he do it no he dint.Instead his ppl cut open a pregnant womans stomach and this is called bravery WOW!!!!!!.As for da train incident,it was mob fury n not hindu-muslim,it was something sad never the less and talking abt it or making a point abt it wont make ne diff,whats over is over and we have to see to it dat it doesnt happen again. Politicians will be politicians,lets not be dumb enough to fall into their traps,they do this to deviate us from the bigger picture mainly eradication of poverty and corruption wid loads more,it's sad to see parties coming into power by spreading and increasing communialism or by doing da opp.Like Gandhiji said" An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
RE:Tehelka on Gujarat Riots
by Sandip Joglekar on Nov 08, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
Right buddy. See my response below. u talk sense. unity should be our policy and we should not tolerate any nonsense like ppl ignoring godhra. If no Godhra, no gujrat riots. if ppl hand over ayodhya land no riots in mumbai. We all live together this way in peace.
Mr. Peri, I can understand your hate for Narendra Modi. But don't you think we are a democracy? Why don't you think people of Gujarat like Modi? Its because of the missionary funded campaign that you are part of. Why is it that you have issues only with Gujarat and not with Kashmir? Or is it that you have VERY high standards only for Narendra Modi and Gujarat and VERY LOW (or NO) standards for Kashmiri militant leaders and Kashmir?
Problem is, you guys are paying heavy price now for all of your appeasement policies of last sixty years. People (especially Hindu masses) have understood your game very well now and thats why leaders like Modi and Thackeray are populer. For every thing that you accuse Modi and Thackeray there is an example from Congress. Be it riots or appeasement. Only difference is that, Modi/Thackeray speak for Hindus and you guys are cowards and don't openly speak for missionaries. But, technically there is no difference.
Tarun and Aniruddha Bahal seem to be have sold themselves to the congress party against heft amounts. (1) Had they been unbiased, they would have chosen first to expose who sponsered GODHRA incident which appears to all of us nothing but the pre-planned incident to instigate Hindus. (2) had they been unbiased and really devoted to the principle of bringing truths in front of the common man, i.e. we people, they would have also exposed genocide against Sikhs in 1984. It is vbery surprising that they failed to think of bring the truth of the party behind the 1984 killings of sikhs inspite of the lapse 23 years, whereas they so active in bringing truth behind Gujrat riots thathappened probably in 2002. Why So? Why both could not get time to find the truth of 1984 genocides in which almost 4000 sikhs (as reported to be unofficial figure) were either burnt of killed in just 3-4 days. There are so many similar incidents like Meerut riots, Bhagalpur riots, Bomb Blasts in Mumbai, and so many economic frauds being committed by the politicians. (3) Why they were silent on 15 years of jungle raj of Mr. Lalu Pprashad where kidnappings, murders had become another industry.
There could be so many questions on soimilar lines which these two so called journalists should be asked.
By doing all these, they are not doing any good for the country.
RE:Tarun and Aniruddha Bahal
by sanjay bhargava on Nov 07, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
do you want to justify what happend in gujarat by giving these examples.
RE:Tarun and Aniruddha Bahal
by seculartraitor on Nov 07, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Yes, nothing wrong in Gujarat. A bullet shoulud be repleied by bullet and you see peace in Gujarat after 1992. Talibanis do not understand language of peace
RE:Tarun and Aniruddha Bahal
by amit Saxena on Nov 07, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Yes Mr. Bhargava U r right we really want to justify that whatever has happened in Gujrat was a must. The minority should learn and behave like minority. Also Why the Kashmiri pandits were thrown out from Our kashmir, that time nobody from Congress had came in support of them. No body had questioned Why Mr. Jagmohan (Just Read his book My frozen turbulence in Kashmir) was transferred from J&K overnight, these Congress man and their allies so called secularists have not defended the rights of KASHMIRI PANDITS.
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Peace on Nov 07, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
Some Gujaratis, I say most of the gujarati took part in riots from either side. Riots ran all over gujarat and for three months.
As krishna said in geeta you cant' be neutral in war... Do your duty.
RE:RE:RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Nov 07, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
There you go. You are so filled with hate for Gujaratis. That explains why you hate Modi. I think you need to do something to get rid of that hate from your heart Mr. Rajurikar.
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by paglakahika on Nov 07, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
I am a gujarati, I know the truth and I want to kick you instead of modi. where should i meet u?
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Vijay Shanker on Nov 07, 2007 08:22 PM Permalink
Quote " A killer is a killer. He does not see the religion of the victim." unquote.
If this is the philosphy of some Hindus, they should stop worshipping Lord Ram, Goddess Durga, Maa Kali as they have also killed demons like Ravana, Mahisasur etc. etc.
We should keep in mind that Lord Krishna has mentioned in Gita that it is the motive of any action which is important and not the action in itself. Gujrat killings seems to be the after effects of the Godhra episodes (in which approx. 80 people were burnt alive)and that could be a spontaneous reaction also whereas the Godhra episode was a pre-planned action by some mentally criminals i.e demons.
With the same logic Sikh killings were after effects of Indira's murder. Will you pardon them?
Krishna was a politician & I see him as a politician who can twist any principle to his benefit without going into morality or civilized conduct. For your info, Krishna is not my ideal.
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Nov 07, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
Mr. Rajurikar, you are WRONG. If Pandya's father openely charged Modi then who was holding hands of Central Government to prosecute Modi? See, if they (and you) are so confident that Modi is killer then go to the court and prove it and hang Modi. But everyone knows that you can't do that coz you can't prove that. And the only thing you can do is talk about it to get muslim votes. Indeed, you guys are the real problem in India.
RE:RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
There is no difference between Haji Bilal & Modi. Both need to be hanged!
RE:RE:RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Prasanta Majumdar on Nov 07, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
Yes I support you that both should be hanged. But can you make it like first come first serve? Why are you hell bent to destroy the thin line between and gaXXu.
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Prasanta Majumdar on Nov 07, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
Supreme Court has slapped so many peoples, some were kicked but nothing happened. Forget Modi.
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Nov 07, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
If that is so then whats your problem? Let supreme court take the decision. What is your complaint then?
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by jigo jani on Nov 07, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
What you said here Mr. Nandu is irrelevant. Unless some judgment is delivered which point them to be guilty and punishes them... they are not guilty. One more thing you must know as Mr. Pandya belonged to my caste and i know the whole family. Leaving Mr. Pandya aside everyone else in the family is either active congress member or pro-congress. So a congress supporter charges Mr. Modi of Murder of Mr. Pandya you can understand what it points to... It is nothing but a political gimic to try and get some political mileage out of that.
RE:RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
You resort to principles in selective situations! There was no judgement on Congress leaders involved in Anti-Sikh riots, will you call them not guilty?
Our Courts have never ruled against people like Haji Mastan & Sukur Narayan Bakhiya. Will you accept them as social workers?
No court has given a verdict against Haji Bilal. What do you call him?
RE:Do not forget Haren Pandya
by Ahmad Shamim on Nov 07, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
There can't be any justification to killings of human beings be it at Godhra or post Godhra riots. Does the religion whoever says himself to be a true hindu or a muslim; can never justify any killings. We should not be guilty of supporting the crimes which we did not do beacuse that also makes us a part of the crime. I feel sorry to see so much hatred here and that people justifying killings against fellow humans just because they do not happen to be co-religionist. Hey guys, understand one thing, there goes a saying''Never fight for your belief, you never know you might be wrong''. Religion is a person's choice; his way of living a life and no religion teaches you to kill humans. I am a muslim and still i dont wish anything bad for Mr. Modi, i just wish he realises what is humanity and what is human suffering at the hands of a fellow human being. You can't live with peace with so much hatred within you guys. Be a true Hindu and a true Muslim an speak truth for your religion--speak for love and compassion not hatred and killings.
Well Done Mahesh. You have made the right argument. The "white-collared" journalism of which, Mr. Mitra is a representative, has to come to an end. Tarun's integrity is beyond question. Everyday in India is an election day. Had this sting been aired an year later, Mr Mitra and others would have said that it had been done with an eye on the Lok Sabha elections, and an year earlier it would have been attributed to bye elections in five states. It is a mere chance that it is a election eve in Gujarat. A sin is sin. And to talk of sinful ways of sinners is not sin, whenever, wherever..
