Some people seem to suggest that the POLITICIANS are in-efficient because they want MUSLIM votes.
I am not convinced by that theory. Here is why,
- Muslim account for 13 % of the Indian population. - So 13 % voters are Muslims. - Similarly Hindus account for 80% of the country - Hence 80% of the voters are HINDU.
Now if we agree on these numbers and disect the "MUSLIM - VOTE" Theory that the CMs are inefficient in fighting extremism for Muslim vote then we can come up with two conclusions,
Either,
- Muslims are more involed in the elections (Higher Muslim turn out than Hindus) - Hindus are not voting for what they believe.
The idea that politicians are ignoring the MAJORITY and are more intereted in MUSLIM votes just does not add up.
RE:RE:Question for people who promote this
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
Explain the theory that people like you promote. What are your assumptions ? Where is the data ?
RE:Question for people who promote this
by manikandan on Nov 07, 2007 09:58 PM Permalink
the sensus is first of all wrong..it was taken in 1990's or before..
RE:Question for people who promote this
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
So tell me what the latest figures are ? If you are promoting a theory, you should back it up with evidence and data.
RE:Question for people who promote this
by Purav Shah on Nov 07, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
IMRAN, FIRSTLY MUSLIMS ARE NEARLY 20%, AND ALL OF THEM VOTE FOR APNEY WALA. THEY NEVER THINK WHO IS GOOD FOR INDIA BUT WHO IS GOOD FOR MUSLIMS.
HINDUS USUALLY THINK WHO IS GOOD FOR IDEOLOGIES HE THINKS ARE SUITABLE FOR PROGRESS OF INDIA.
IF HINDUS WERE HALF LIKE YOU MUSLIMS, YOU WUD NOT WRITE THIS MSG. YOU WILL BE ELIMINATED LIKE THE MINORITIES IN PAKI.BANGLA ETC.
IT IS SAD, THAT EVEN AFTER 60 YEARS OF SECULAR DEMOCRACY, YOU FAILED TO UNDERSTAND THE VERY ISSENCE OF DEMOCRACY.
TELL ME THE TRUTH. WHICH PEOPLE AND RELIGION IS OFFICIALLY AGAINST SECULARISM? IT IS MUSLIM ONLY. THAT IS WHY NO MUSLIM COUNTRY ALLOWS ANYBODY LIKE NONMUSLIM NATIONS DO.
PLS DONT USE DEMOCRACY WHEN YOU WANT TO, AND WHILE DEEPLY BELIEVING IN ISLAM THAT DOES NOT ALLOW US.
WHEN MUSLIMS RULE, WE HINDUS WERE MADE TO PAY A TAX CALLED JAZIA TAX FOR GOING TO OUR TEMPLES. AND DONT BRING THE CRAP OF LOWER CASTE ETC. YOU KILLED THEM EQUALLY WITH THE UPPER CASTES.
RE:Question for people who promote this
by Ha ha hi hi on Nov 07, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
If someone is criminal does becoming criminal solves our problem... How many of u have guts to vote for a Good Independent Person
RE:RE:Question for people who promote this
by imran patel on Nov 07, 2007 10:11 PM Permalink
If that is the case then, 80% of the hindus who "USUALLY THINK WHO IS GOOD FOR IDEOLOGIES" should be able to marganalize the Muslim Vote. Remember 80 is GREATER than 20.
Even if I agree with all you say, how is 20% muslim vote more powerful and influencal than 80% hindu vote. It just does not add up. Please explain logically and statistically.
RE:RE:Question for people who promote this
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 10:31 PM Permalink
If Muslims have voted for Muslims, then Muslim league would have been the biggest party of Muslims. It is not!
Patriotism is not a monopoly of Hindus. History says there were more traitors in Hindus rather than Muslims. You can start the list from Jaichand Rathod.
Why not talk about lower castes? Just because it slaps on your face? Lower castes migrated to other religions including Islam because they were given inhuman treatment by Hindus. Most of the Muslims in Pakistan were lower caste earlier. Musharraf is a Gujjar (those who are demanding SC status today in Rajasthan).
The sins of generations will haunt the Hindus, there is no escape!
To tell the truth, the RSS & its siblings are anti-secular. Read Bunch of Thoughts written by Golwalkar.
Mukherjee is an Paki founded by ISI to spread hatred among Hindus.. So that most Muslim can be used as terrorist!!! Stop commenting on His lies!! We all know wht is happening in Pakistan ... When they went ahead with Hate India campaign ... Mukherjee is being deputed by ISI to replicate Pakistani model in india!!! Murkherje post should be reported as abuse
"And when it comes from leaders -- the so-called intellectuals and especially editors who are supposed to mould public opinion -- it is despicable."
And here we are thinking that the only job of journalists is to put the real facts out and let the reader make his/her own opinion. Even a news analysis is just that. Neither form is meant to "mould public opinion".
Shows you what the true agenda of Indian journalists realy is.
RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she is CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter
by apjunkmail on Nov 07, 2007 09:41 PM Permalink
Power to Modi , i am totaly against muslim appeasement.
RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she is CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:41 PM Permalink
The Indian voters answered the questio in 2004 Lok Sabha election. They threw away Mododi's party.
RE:RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she is CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
Blaming Chandrababu for your failure? Do not forget that BJP's tally went down!
RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she is CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Gujarathi Hindus elected 14 MPs of Congress from Gujarat. Gujarat's BJP MPs voted for Pratibha Patil. Delete this message again! It tells the truth!
RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she ia CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter.
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
This was asked to all Hindus in 2004 election & totally in private!
RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she ia CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter.
by Moinuddin Rahmatulla on Nov 07, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
You seriousily arent gonna accomplish much by spreading hatred between hindu's and muslim's.If ur a sadist n anti muslim then yea ur gonna have a whale of a time but ur kinda ppl r useless.Now ur probably gonna read dis n send me abuses,cant really expect nething else,like Duhhhhh grow up dude.
RE:RE:RE:Ask any Hindu in Private, whether he/she ia CPIM, RJD, Cong supporter.
by Moinuddin Rahmatulla on Nov 07, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
This is all according to u.As for da system,well Blame da politicians for it... and not da minorities.Like u i dun like whats happening to Kashmiri pandits and God knows how many more ppl.I wish for a gruesome death for neone who kills innocent ppl,be it hindu muslim or ne other religion.
TEHELKA IS A CONGRESS DIRTY-HAND. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. DID HE MAKE ANY STING OP. THAT EXPOSES CONGRESS AND MUSLIM TERRORIST. YES, WE DISCUSS AND SHOULD THROW SUCH GUYS WHO USE THE POWERFUL TOOL OF MEDIA TO SERVE THE INTEREST OF GOONPARTY. THEY THEMSELVES ARE THE SAME. THEY SHOW WHAT THEY WANT TO, THEY HIDE WHAT AND WHO THEY WANT TO.
HE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING ON NATIONAL ISSUE, SECURITY ISSUE, TERROR ISSUE. IT IS A FASHION STARTED BY a couple OF JOURNALISTS AT MDEETV.
HE ( & SOME OTHERS )DOES NOT HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING WHEN MUSLIMS STARTED RIOTS IN MUMBAI, AND MUMBAI PEOPLE HAD TO RESPOND IN KIND. BECOZ THERE ARE FIRM AND STRONG PEOPLE IN MUMBAI, WHO CAN KICK THEIR WHATYOUKNOW IF THEY SHOW UNFAIR REPORTINGS.
BUT WITH GUJARAT ANY TOM DICK AND DIP WANTS TO MAKE MONEY AND FAME?
Both were acts of utter shame and cowardness.Had Modi wanted he cud have punished da guilty,did he do it no he dint.Instead his ppl cut open a pregnant womans stomach and this is called bravery WOW!!!!!!.As for da train incident,it was mob fury n not hindu-muslim,it was something sad never the less and talking abt it or making a point abt it wont make ne diff,whats over is over and we have to see to it dat it doesnt happen again. Politicians will be politicians,lets not be dumb enough to fall into their traps,they do this to deviate us from the bigger picture mainly eradication of poverty and corruption wid loads more,it's sad to see parties coming into power by spreading and increasing communialism or by doing da opp.Like Gandhiji said" An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
RE:When will we grow up?
by manikandan on Nov 07, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
O! poor moinuddin........ you were scracthing something when modi ruled gujjarta peacefully for full five years????
Y no riots? y everybidy is happy abouut modis rule..no complaints in 5 years?? coz he is great administrator and didnt allow any bad things to haapen..not even a single communal problems?
arent you a fool ? a guy who has lost his balance and emotions over hatred cannot rule a state peacefully and make it economicaaly vibrant...you must be dumb headed to think that modi is behind killings...
RE:When will we grow up?
by Moinuddin Rahmatulla on Nov 07, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
Its a lil too late neway i dun really want to get into a conversation wid a person who beleives dat Modi wasnt behind da kilings,Taali ek haath se nahi bajthi.U can say degrading things to me etc etc,doesnt really make a diff dude.Your kinda ppl are n will be in India sadly.
RE:When will we grow up?
by manikandan on Nov 07, 2007 09:37 PM Permalink
dont worry sir...i have no hatred for anyone...i am not here to support modi..but looking from outside ..this is what comes to my mind..(be out of the situation to get the best judgement) i dont belong to any community that was involved in riots..and i am not going to get any prize money fr supporting modi..
RE:When will we grow up?
by Purav Shah on Nov 07, 2007 09:51 PM Permalink
sir, it is that kind of a ppl that does not make india a pakistan. It is not sad, but it is nice, or else you wud not be given this much freedom had you been a citizen of an islamic nation. Show me a singl Muslim country,icnluding much sung malaysia, where there is half freedom to non muslims in nations like USA,UK,FRANCE,SPAIN,KOREA, ....and yes, INDIA.
RE:RE:RE:When will we grow up?
by Ha ha hi hi on Nov 07, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
So Purav .. if thre is flaw in islamic countries.. do other countries have to replicate theirs??? and degraded our owm country!!! then why on earth did u born if u know that u will die some day!!!! does 2 wrongs makes things right
RE:RE:When will we grow up?
by marx dsouza on Nov 07, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
How much peoples can he punish.I feel if he starts punishing the culprits the list will be unending.Our Social Mentality be it Hindu or Muslim needs to be changed be it Hindu or Muslim and that can only be done by Education,Social Awareness which is the work of Government and I feel Modi is doing that very well
