Are you trying to underestimate our intelligence? Unlike on Aajtak, where targets were masses, on the rediff, things are different.. Why do you not talk about post godhra riot, and its poster boy, the tailer, who had gone to west Bengal, but returned back to gujarat within months... Why about you tell the people that Between Feb 28th and March 1st, there were no 3 days, because 3 days didn't exist on standard calender day... Why do not tell us about the politics of Minoritism that is practiced by sickular degressive people like you... So okay Mr. mitra wants you to re-think about past riots.. For a minute forget about him... But how about B. P. SINGHAL, IPS. (Retd.), Ex-MP Rajya Sabha? See with sickularist degressive people like you, truth is always oppressed.. But satyamev jayte...
RE:Mahesh Peri
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:34 AM Permalink
Dude u are supporting the Gujarat riots and modi so there is nothing to underestimate your intelligence you have shown how intelligent u are.
RE:Mahesh Peri
by Kaushik Das on Nov 08, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
Dude imran, the traitor, you are supporting the godhra burnings of women and children along with other innocent people. Anyway, your intelligence is always seen in the academic and the professional world. The only place where you guys are intelligent is in destroying places.
RE:Mahesh Peri
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Dude Das after the guj riots hindus don%u2019t have any right to keep barking that muslims are violent bcoz hindus have proved they are also the same.
RE:Mahesh Peri
by deepak on Nov 08, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
My intelligence is time tested.. I know if Muslims left alone, they will kill each other... So You should congratulate yourself that Hindus are there to divert your attention from each other throats among your own brothers....
RE:Mahesh Peri
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 02:02 AM Permalink
Yes and Hindus will also kill each other if muslims were not there they will fight b/w states, castes and language so congratualte muslims too
RE:RE:Stick to what?
by Kaushik Das on Nov 08, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
islam = i slam = you guys believe in negative ideoligy and hatred. You slam everything that you don't identify with, including yourselves at times. Idiotic Society of Looters, Arsonists and Murderers.
RE:RE:RE:Stick to what?
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 01:08 AM Permalink
HAHAH big joke dude ur hero and CM Modi is the biggest muderer and rapist in india so hang ur head in shame that is if u have any
RE:Stick to what?
by suresh madhavan on Nov 08, 2007 01:44 AM Permalink
forget abt modi!Even ur prophets occupation was looting right? and getting 2/5 share of the booty!! what kind of a prophet is that? do u guys know anything other than distruction. Check the history books
RE:Stick to what?
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
Yeah I know the ills facing the muslim community a slong as islam is not reformed muslims will keep suffering.
RE:RE:Stick to what?
by Kaushik Das on Nov 08, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
But that is the truth with every community - why make it an islamic issue, dude?
RE:Stick to what?
by Kaushik Das on Nov 08, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
modi talked about the development of gujarat even before the riots and THAT is why he won - he actually followed what he was preaching. Gujarat continues to be the #1 state in India and corruption there is almost nil.
Tehelka people are paid by congress for their election campaign. thats why they don't sting congress for anything. 1984 massacre of 4000 sikhs by Congress during last 60 years. Godhra massacre (congress corporator haji bilal is primary accused) Bofors scam Wheat import scam (latest) Telgi scam Suicide of farmers in congress ruled states - Maharashtra and Andhra. Congress supporting terrorist ULFA in assam Congress supporting naxalites in Andhra Congress supporting afsal who is sentenced to death in parliament attack case Congress supporting PDP party which supports terrorism in kashmir. Case against President pratibha patil for cheating 13.5 cores from coperative bank. .....
Uma bharati hates BJP - because she hates everything. her party collapsed and she has nowhere to go.
RE:Tehelka is Congress's agents
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
Uma Bharti was also from BJP Cartoon factory she is also a big joke like most of Beggars and Jokers Party.
RE:Tehelka is Congress's agents
by Rahul Sharma on Nov 08, 2007 12:03 AM Permalink
Many has already said that Tehelka's recent sting would help BJP NOT Congress.
Open your eyes and read the newspapers.
Let BJP hire somebody to do sting Congress, why blame Tehelka?
Do you have any answers to the scams I have mentioned below?
RE:RE:RE:Tehelka is Congress's agents
by Vikas on Nov 08, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
since tehelka stings only BJP, they r congress agaents.
if the sting helps BJP, its only because of foolishness of Congress and their advisors.
BJP will win due to image and charisma of Modi.
Congress has given only 5 seats to Muslims in gujarat election out of 182. Where is the great Muslim protectors gone? Congress is trying to pickup rebels from BJP, and trying to get Hindu votes. By this, Congress is proving that they admit defeat.
RE:Tehelka is Congress's agents
by Vikas on Nov 08, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
Tehelka will not sting any of these..
more.... Hundreds of riots engineered by Congress in last 60 years. sonias educational background scams and fraud done by sonia and family. the druglord father of rahul's girlfrend in columbia.
there are more from UPA allies - nandigram and sigur massacre by CPM - looting of ration food by CPM in bengal - lalu's fodder scam - kerala cpm's lavlin scam ......
It is really time to speak out against the atrocities of BJP/Modi.
By the way there are lot more to expose BJP in detail:
Coffin Scam Petrol Pump Scam Stamp Paper Scam Human Smuggling ( BJP MP: Babubhai Katara smuggled Gujju women to western countries claiming them as wives, so that they can visit western countries and stay there working in some motels )
RE:Let us stick to the topic: Tehelka sting: Time to speak out
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:02 AM Permalink
Beggars and Jokers Party(BJP) knows nothing except create fights b/w communities.
Time to think: IS THIS "PRINCIPLED" NEHRUVIAN POLITICS, SECULARISM?
Nehru may have had some limitation (nobody is perfect). But he never pursued the politics of rallying muslims (and xtians) in the name of religion, and play caste politics with Hindus.
Hindus are being divide along caste lines.... Factually in correct staement.
Hindus were divided on caste lines for thousands of years. Why are you un-necessarily giving the credit to the politicians? Nobody has to divide Hindus. They do it themselves!
Caste was used as a weapon by upper castes for many centuries.
Now that weapon has come in the hands of lower castes & the upper castes now shiver in fear.
The lower castes must use this weapon fruitfully & with agressiveness. Its a very powerful weapon!
Caste is more durable than any other philosophy or ism. This is the chance of the lower castes to use the weapon of caste to their advantage.
Its a welcome change to Indian politics. We have seen the results in UP. We must welcome it to all India scale!
RE:RE:Present Indian politics
by Vikas on Nov 08, 2007 12:02 AM Permalink
so u want Brahmins and upper castes to rule India, like in UP where majority of Mayavati party MLAs are upper castes.
The author is trying to hide his pseudo-secular thoughts by wearing his emotions on his sleeve. First let him come out and talk about his or any Indian media's pro-china thoughts.
Let judges take the action. Media above all is "INTELLECTUALLY CORRUPT". Hence an educated man must not trust what is coming out of media verbatim.
Milind, I as a student of History will not deny the desctruction brought about by the Muslim Invaders. But the way you guys analyze it, seem to suggest that Muslims ravaged India. Do not forget that they were INVADERS. Was it any different when the English INVADED India ? Was it any different when the Germans INVADED France ? Was it any different when the Japanese INVADED China ?
You see to hold on to the "Muslim" part and convienently forget the "INVADERS". Invaders are power hungry individuals that will go to any extend to control the population.
As a student of Islam, I can categorically say that Islam is against such invasions, such destruction of human life and also the disrespect of other beliefs.
The concept of Hindutva seems to be as shallow and as naive as the concept of Taliban in Afganistan. I see no different and I oppose both. In todays world we do not need an Islamic State. I say that as a Muslim. The idea of Islamic state was implemented because of religious prosecution of the Muslims in the Arab Lands. Today and person can freely practise his/her religion without any retribution. That throws out the entire argument of a Muslim/Islamic State.
As for an Hindu state, that is for you guys to decide. In my opinion, we need a state that respects individual rights and freedom. A state with small, but efficient governments. A state with more individual responsibility rather than a "Welfare State".
RE:Response to Milind...
by Subba on Nov 07, 2007 11:55 PM Permalink
Man Imran, you are the first person who have spoken sensically in here, in all the times I have read the comments.
RE:Response to Milind...
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 11:31 PM Permalink
When Hindus talk about invaders, they forget that they themselves were invaders.
Rig Veda has prayers that say, Hey Indra, kill the Panis, Nags & Dasyus. Give their forts, cows & women to us. Need any other solid proof?
Hindus destroyed the temples of original inhabitants. They encroached on the Adivasi culture. The temple of Jagannathpuri was hijacked by Hindus from the Adivasis. The Lenyadri Ganesh temple in Maharashtra was originally a Budhhist cave.
Every invader wants to consolidate after capturing a new territory. The invader also wants to demoralise the defeated. Hence his first attack happens on the temples & women.
Invading Hindus, Muslims & Christians are no exception to this. But some people think that pointing fingers at oyhers would absolve them of their own sins!
RE:RE:Response to Milind...
by Milind on Nov 07, 2007 11:38 PM Permalink
Nandu, Dont talk about Indra unless you know where he is placed in the Hindu mythology. All Hindu mythological stories portray him as a villain. I have not seen anyone who worhips Indra.
RE:Response to Milind...
by Milind on Nov 07, 2007 11:35 PM Permalink
Imran, you missed the main point though I agree with the other points that you mentioned.
Inspite of accepting the fact the Hindu temples were destroyed by Invaders, Muslims are not willing to undo the damage to a couple of main temples such as in Mathura and Ayodhya. This is the cause of the Frustration amongst Hindus.
The frustration amongst Muslims during Modi rule will be justified as long as they mention the Godhra massacare along with the Gujrath riots.
As a secular Indian, I believe in genuine equality. Muslims should be given Haj subsidy as long as Hindus, Christians & Rest get the same for visiting their places of worship. Hindus in Kaashmir should be given minority status like Muslims in the rest of India get. Instead Hindu pandits are driven away by ethnic cleansing. That would cause frustration wouldnt it ?
Regarding invaders, if you claim that "Invasion is against the ideals of Islam", why did they do it ? Noone mention Christian invaders since they have been defeated and have left India and their damage has been partiall undone. I say partially since they have left converted Indians who do not oppose religions conversion of Hindus. If the muslim invaders were not true muslims atleast you are. Why dont you want to undo their mistakes. Atleast in principle if not in action. Is that asking for too much ?
RE:RE:Response to Milind...
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
Why do u keep talking about invasions dude its nothing to do with religion man always wanst to invade others like how Bush is doing in iraq
RE:Response to Milind...
by Milind on Nov 07, 2007 11:54 PM Permalink
Do you know of any mistakes that Hindus have done to other religions such as Muslims or Christians ? I already mentioned my disapproval of Modi during Gujrath riots as long as you mention Godhra massacre simultaneously.
We are ashamed that most injustice has been done by Hindus to our own brothers such as the Dalits or even Sikhs during the 1984 riots. Instead of fixing this, Congress is now trying to divide Hindus on caste lines. They want Dalits to remain dalits forever and that is very frustrating to me.
RE:Response to Milind...
by Imran on Nov 08, 2007 12:00 AM Permalink
Dude why do u want temples and mosques y cant u pray inside ur house. Organized religion is the root cause of evil and should be banned.
RE:Response to Milind...
by laadlabakdaas on Nov 07, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
don't ever equate hindutva with islam. there is a reason why pakistan was formed. there is a reason why pakistan has become a failed state. don't just be blind about your religion. Above all stop being smart by criticizing your religion on a smaller scale and another religion on a greater scale. individual rights are respected more in a hindu country than any other Islamic country barring Turkey.
Even Malaysia is biased towards Bhumiputras!!! and coming to invasion if u really think the muslims in india were converts during the invasion then it should simply stop there rather than owing allegiance to islam's native place. how about encouragin muslims to follow a common civil code???
RE:RE:Response to Milind...
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
Chief Justice of Supreme Court said that SC has given many incorrect decisions!
RE:RE:Response to Milind...
by nandu rajurikar on Nov 07, 2007 11:38 PM Permalink
Nepal was a Hindu country & its performance on individual rights is known to world.
India is NOT a Hindu country. Its a secular country because of secular citizens like us! There was a demand by extreme Hindu element in 1947 to declare India as a Hindu State. Nehru crushed it under his feet!
Well said - the Tehelka expose should be discussed on merits (hideous as the issues may be) and not by discussing fuzzy 'motives' of the Bahals. Talking of 'motives' (which is insinuation) confuses the main issue ...Tehelka did the unthinkable...caught barbarians boasting of their murders, with state govt support, on camera. It's time to SPEAK UP!
RE:Mahesh Peri - well said!
by drax on Nov 07, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
When an action is biased the result obviously is suspect. So all(except those want to believe) will take it with a pinch of salt. Anything can be twisted and presented as 'truth'.
