That is why Humanists are right when they say dont kill in the name of religion be they Jehads or starting schools and hospitals or worshipping idols!!!
Treat all humans as one creation with one religion and forget what old times documents of humans......God or Gods did not write them. Stop referring to them and start living humane lives.....HUMANITY is the superb way of human living. STOP dying or killing in the name of irrelevant codes and conducts of the so called religions.
promises such as 72 virgins, wine and eternal youth can not justify human happiness on this planet when we all live but not die.
After-death experiences are unknown till one dies...stop hallucinating.
RE:Imran and Religion.
by Imran on Nov 02, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
Well said Sirji religion is a man made evil.One thing I cant understand is how humans can kill little kids , infants and women just bcoz they belong to another religion. Can anyone think what will be going through a kid when he is staring at death. %u201CYou're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend%u201D Richard Jeni
RE:RE:Imran and Religion.
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Nov 02, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
No Imran. Religions are not bad. Actually a true religion teaches its followers to behave in interests of the society. it is their followers who behave in other way. We must punish those criminals without thinking to what religion he/she belongs.
Your name is Muslim but you do not talk like a terrorist. Very rarely I see Muslims being rational (and not emotional) on the web-site. Still I agree that it is not a problem if you are a Muslim, but you need to be very careful in understanding the Christian agenda.
Moreover your opinions are very correct.
Christians are silently dividing non-Christian populations and wherever they have trouble or opposition for conversions, they incite fight between other communities.
How they do is very simple: Using money. Yesterday they showed some NGO's protesting against Modi. I'm not trying to say anything about Modi, but imagine how these people could have got money to organize the protests when they call themselves an NGO (an not affiliated to any political parties). Moreover one of the person's name was 'Cedric Prakash'. How come a Christian started loving a Muslim suddenly?
It is because if Christians show fake love towards Muslims then it is possible that Hindus get more hatred towards Muslims.
See the comments by the person below where he is talking about betting his money.
Believe me, once his money is over, he will either go mad or become a Muslim or a Hindu.
RE:kILL NONBELIVERS by Digital Crusader on Nov 02, 2007 11:37 AM For the time being... The God of Israel winning... If you don't believe then go and check the news. I'm betting all my money on The God of Israel.
RE:Hello Imran!
by Imran on Nov 02, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
Sirji thx for ur comments I%u2019m a muslim but for me humanity is the only religion. All religions have only caused hatred towards others nothing else. Great you agree with my point of view. Christians are masters at playing the divide and rule policy we all know that. Bush is a staunch christain and takes advice of reverends for major decisions. The whole of iraq has been destroyed by bush and they couldn%u2019t find any nuclear weapons so we can see how they deceived the whole world. Christains want hindus and muslims to fight each other so that they can quietly convert people. They get lots of money from other countries and utilize for schools and orpahanges but these are all again to hoodwink people their main aim is to spread Christianity that%u2019s it.
RE:Hello Imran!
by ratnajayant gudavally on Nov 02, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Why cant we run the schools etc., to counter Christian so called secret agenda ???....Do what Christians do and change the course of Islamic terrorism !!!....... Can we make Jews hand over Palestine to Palestinians ???
Then what about Jewish and Palestine issue??? Can Muslims and Hundus get Palestine from Jews to Palestinians or Islamic races ???. Do Christians have the key to Jewish and Islamic controversies ???
Christians or Hindus are not holding the rights of Abrahamic controversies. They are foreign religions that dont have anything to do with Palestine or Islamists....specially Terrorist groups for whom even Muslims are targets....as in Pakistan.
Is Pakistan suffering today for supporting Jehadism ?????
If Muslims kill Christians what about Hindus will they become Muslims or wont they too become jehadic targets later just like Pak.
Did Bush or did Saddam Hussain destroy Iraq ???......ponder ???
Muslims killing Christians .....and Hindus converting into Muslims???......How far is this true and practical from the days of Babur and Akbur....Why Din Illlahi not convert all Hindus of India....with all the Hindu appeasement by Akbar......Think....Think....Think...
RE:Hello Imran!
by Imran on Nov 02, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
Sir my point is US was supporting Osama before 9/11 and it also helped Pakistan develop nuclear weapons u know why bczo they want India and Pakistan to fight and perish. US is a rogue nation bcoz it is powerful. It gives rise to terrorism evryhwere
RE:Hello Imran!
by ratnajayant gudavally on Nov 02, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
These are politics ....not religion.....US or any one supporting people like Saddam or Osama.
Innocent people die due to inhuman politics. A humane religion is a source of human welfare.....But Humanity comes from Humane thinking not killer religions.
Any strong nation can play any trick even Iran or Pakistan, India or China if they want to play political games....they can not be stopped because they have grown big to play with weak people who are poor and less capable.
If the Bible is our moral guide, then how can it make pornographic statements such as: %u201C...they may eat their own dung and drink their own piss with you%u201D (2 Kings 18:27)? Also consult Numbers 31 where a whole tribe of people, including the elderly and children are slaughtered. The only survivors were the virginal women, who were later raped by the %u201Cjust and perfect%u201D Moses and his men. Is that what you want your children reading on Sunday?
2. We are told that the Bible has no scientific errors and is utterly perfect/protected, yet it says the bat is a bird (Leviticus 11:13 & 19), hares chew the cud (Leviticus 11:5-6), and some fowl (Leviticus 11:20-21) and insects (Leviticus 11:22-23) have four legs.
RE:Pornography in Holy Bible
by ratnajayant gudavally on Nov 02, 2007 01:42 PM Permalink
These were the recordings of Jewish peoples lives during those days...and CXhristianity was practised by a few hundreds of people after Christ teachings. Bible is the recordings of still previous days of Christ or Christanity.
Jesus 's Teachings dont make the whole Bible....So clarity shows that What Old races did was not approved by Jesus Christ or Christians and appreciators of Christs teachings including Gandhiji.
Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done. Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled. Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is %u201Cunclean%u201D. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter. This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic. Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then %u201Cscourge%u201D her. Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping. I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed.
Everyone will have to worship Jesus -- whether they want to or not. Philippians 2:10 A Christian can not be accused of any wrongdoing. Romans 8:33 Don%u2019t associate with non-Christians. Don%u2019t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them. 2 John 1:10 Shun those who disagree with your religious views. Romans 16:17 Paul, knowing that their faith would crumble if subjected to free and critical inquiry, tells his followers to avoid philosophy. Colossians 2:8 You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
NO WONDER THE CHRISATINS ARE DOING WHAT IS SAID IN THE BIBLE THEY ARE DESTROYING ALL RELIGIONS BUT NO ONE IS REALZIING THAT. THEY WILL CAUSE FIGHT BETWEEN NATIONS(IND-PAK), COMMUNITIES LIKE IN IRAQ SO THAT EVERYONE FIGTHS AND DIES.
RE:Christains are following the BIBLE
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Nov 02, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Mr Imran, i happen to have a copy of Bible. I will check these references in that and then comment. Thank you for the quotes.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians, Your Christians are so unlike your Christ" ..........Mahatma Gandhi
"If you love God, burn a church" ..........Jello Biafra (ex-Dead Kennedys singer) I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize humankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. -Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason)
"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand." - Mark Twain
"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." - Friedrich Nietzsche "Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men." - Voltaire
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB) 17) Eating pork is forbidden (Deuteronomy 14:8). Hmm, I%u2019ve never met a Christian who DIDN%u2019T enjoy bacon and eggs. 18) A man must marry and have relations with his dead brother%u2019s wife (Deuteronomy 25:5-6). This goes without explaining of course. 19) A seducer must marry an unengaged virgin whom he seduces (Exodus 22:16-17)
RE:Christians are Hypocrites
by Digital Crusader on Nov 02, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
Now my prediction is that you will live and die alone... How many people are there left who don't enjoy bacon & egs or drink alcohol.
