Brahmins have won 80 seats on BSP tickets, same goes for other communities... this is true secularism. I as a Brahmin totally support Mayawati for giving us political representation which we lacked both at Centre and State level and became a punching bag for political experiments. Those who are abusing Brahmins out here or in that case Dalits or other communities and saying that BSP won and it's time for Brahmins to leave, Either u r a dalit from another state or upper caste, or from any other community from another state so u have no idea that the Brahmins and for that matter people of all communities(ALL COMMUNITIES) in UP favour BSP right now. Mayawati is an Iron Lady who will send all those criminals let loose by SP back to jails, and she has also ended the brahmin-dalit divide which existed for so long, in fact she is on her way to end all divides in this state and in this country. Even Muslims and Yadavas and Kurmis have voted for BSP. Upper Castes, OBC's, Dalits, Minorities all are supporting her cause' she will send all criminals to jail who are anti-social and will bring real secularism which others could not achieve to bring. THIS IS THE FIRST STATE IN THE UNION OF INDIA TO HAVE IN THE TRUE SENSE, A REAL SECULAR PARTY AT IT'S HELMS OF AFFAIRS RIGHT NOW AND ALL OLD ESTABLISHMENTS, ALL PREJUDICES WHICH HAVE EXISTED THROUGHOUT INDIAN HISTORY AFTER 1947 AND EVEN BEFORE THAT WILL NOW BE BURIED PERMANENTLY. THIS IS 'SARVA SAMAJ', THIS IS THE NEW SOCIAL REVOLUTION.
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by Jayan KR on May 11, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
well said akash...when each and every indian start speaking about sarwa samaj our country will be socially developed. when we start talking abt a meritocratic socitey we will already be on the path to moral enlightening and economic development. let all the siv sainiks...SIMI and other communal parties find their shelter in amazon.
RE:BSP doing BJP's work?
by Jayan KR on May 11, 2007 11:12 PM Permalink
the majority of the people thrown the CD of BJP into oblivion. the top leaders of BJP are educated but thought they can get more vote by playing teh game that british played. India will never be a hindu rashtra...but a shining example in the world for secularism and persuing modern principle. a societies charm lies in inclusion of various communities and allowing them to come to the for front. if religion not merrit was counted we could have never had a missile ....an intelligent man as a president. i am proud to be a hindu. but i am proud to be in a secular india and not a hindu rashtra. ......and there are many a million hindus who have the same ideology
Good to see that hindus rejected the hate politics of BJP. I dont know how the rediff readers going to handle this. Most of the rediff readers are BJP followers and full of hatred.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Inadvertently Human on May 11, 2007 10:36 PM even Mayavathi has said she wants her voters to vote for BJP during parliment elections. BJP should win and establish a Hindu rastra. There are over 900 million Hindus world-wide and we need a Hindu nation. If u want secularism there are so many nations around. why not immigrate there? Leave India to Hindus and get ur minority butts outta here.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Anurag Shrivastava on May 11, 2007 10:40 PM You must be an odd lunatic who wants a Hindu nation. Very few Hindus want Hindu nation because Hindutva is a secular creed which allows independence of whether to worship one of 33 crore gods or not worship them at all. Hinduism supports multiple philosophies and is not like other fanatical , underdeveloped religions which have their popes and mullahs.
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RE:RE:BJP Rejected by Inadvertently Human on May 11, 2007 10:42 PM Agreed that Hinduism is inherently secular. But evangelical Christianity and Islam is vehemently opposed to secular idea so we need to ensure that India is a Hindu rastra to protect secularism. Otherwise innocent people will be killed/converted by radical Islammic and Christian groups. What say?
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RE:BJP Rejected by Anurag Shrivastava on May 11, 2007 10:46 PM Ban conversion to these religions if you must because if some Hindu wants to worship Jesus or Allah - I do not see a problem and he does not need to convert- but for heavens sake do not become like them... and not too many conversions are happening anyway now. Also - with Dalit empowerment - there will no incentive to convert.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Inadvertently Human on May 11, 2007 10:56 PM If a person wants to convert, it is pro-choice and he/she should have the right to convert. I believe in faith and freedom. However, historically Islam and Christianity have showed signs to intolerance towards other religion. Hindus hav embraced Sikhs, Parsees, Zorostrians, Jews, Christians and Mohammadians. It is only the evengelical christians and Islam that creates the problembecause of their faith and intolerance. recently, due to the rise of Islam in Malaysia, Hindu Temples are being destroyed and forcible conversions are taking place. 50 or 100 or 500 years from now, if ur religion preaches intolerance, other groups are always in jeopardy because of that. Hindutva is the right answer to India to protect secularism.
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RE:BJP Rejected by r patil on May 11, 2007 10:56 PM You are wrong Anurag most of the hindus want India to be hindu nation.Hindu nation does not mean banning other religions ,it means proudly Identifiying nation's soul to be hindu.Look at world most powerful secular nation even they have IN GOD We Trust slogan and their president does not shys way from proclaiming to be christain and invoking Jesus blessings in all wars
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RE:BJP Rejected by Jayan KR on May 11, 2007 10:54 PM dear 'inadvertently human' friend....the majority of the people thrown the CD of BJP into oblivion. the top leaders of BJP are educated but thought they can get more vote by playing teh game that british played. India will never be a hindu rashtra...but a shining example in the world for secularism and persuing modern principle. a societies charm lies in inclusion of various communities and allowing them to come to the for front. if religion not merrit was counted we could have never had a missile ....an intelligent man as a president. i am proud to be a hindu. but i am proud to be in a secular india and not a hindu rashtra. anurag is an example ,...and there are many a million hindus who have the same ideology
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RE:RE:BJP Rejected by r patil on May 11, 2007 11:01 PM Hinduism = secularism The moment hidus in India become minority ,this great nation will soon become anti-secular nation.You can just google for secularism and christainty and secularism and islam and see with your own eyes the hate christains and muslim have for secularism.Dont go by what I ndian christains and muslim say they are going to be forced to change their stand once christain and muslim become majority.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Inadvertently Human on May 11, 2007 11:04 PM Jayan, for God's sake if you are a Hindu just shut up and let India become a Hndu rastra. No one forces u to worship Hindu Gods and practise our Dharma. Over 100 Million innocent lives have been lost in the past 1000 years of Islamic Moghul rule and Chrisian British rule. Hinduism is more than religion and is a way of life where everyone has choice and freedom. So may be u can redefine Hinduism in ur dictioinary as one of the political 'isms' that guarentees secularism, democracy and freedom.
What is rwong with having a Hindu nation? More than christians and Muslims, it is the half-baked ppseudo-secular nincompoops that create problems in India. up urs with ur Nehruvianism and socialism.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Rohit on May 11, 2007 11:04 PM If > 1000 years of Muslim Christian rule left India filled with 800 Million Hindus, why do you think those 800 million will SUDDENLY start converting under Democratic rule? Show a little more faith in Hinduism and stop being so insecure about your religious identity.
If Hindus are so keen on a Hindu India why has the BJP been elected ONCE in SIXTY YEARS? I am sure even the most rabid saffron-chaddi-wearing simian must know that MOST HINDUS have repeatedly rejected their hate-filled ideology.
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RE:BJP Rejected by bhaskar on May 11, 2007 10:54 PM good, keep it up Mr.INADVERTENTLY HUMAN.
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RE:BJP Rejected by Ajith Bhat on May 11, 2007 10:56 PM @Inadvertently Human Well said :)
