President APJ Abdul Kalam has rightly shown his preference for two party system in the largest democracy like India. Multi party system though treated as plus point of democracy but in our country unfortunately it has become a cancerous disease. All big national parties have broken into several small pieces. Every individual with little popularity in small segment of the country likes to form his own party. As a result at state as also national level numerous parties put their candidates in election and give rise to multi-cornered contest in every constituency. Due to this an individual with 10 to 20 percent of votes polled or with support of even 5 percent of total electorate manage victory in his favour. In such position voters more often than not feel cheated and mostly person of no repute is elected. This is because majority of voters casted their precious votes against the winner. It is only due to split of vote into several segments that a person of little popularity and even criminal record gets victory in election. Such multi-cornered contest makes mockery of democracy. To add fuel to fire even victorious candidates do not work for entire constituency but devotes his most of the available energy to please his own group or caste of voters who helped him win the election. It is not very much abnormal or undesirable too because after all each candidates treats the election as a profession and he is bound to make strategy to win the election by hook or crook and then earn through this business and save enough money for future election. The more he invests in his election business the more is his possibility of retaining the seat in the next election. Election is not a simple democratic process but it is an opportunity to get franchisee of a reputed brand of a product. AS such irregularity and deficiency of democracy become visible in each constituency. There are very few constituencies where a real performer is elected through our prevalent election process. When we make a sum total of such results at state or national level we find that numerous small parties and individual groups win the election and give rise to coalition government. Each individual and each small group becomes ambitious to join the coalition group which can afford formation of government. This results in compromise with theories and principles. Individual indulges in blackmailing and tries to sale his victory at price as high as possible depending upon the circumstances. He forgets his all promises made before voters before election. His main target is to become minister or even Chief Minister. We have example of Madhu Koda with no reputation in the state becoming Chief Minister in Jharkhand. We have seen how Mr. Chandra Sekhar became Prime Minister of the country. We have seen government falling in few months only because MLA/MP switching over to another group for his own vested interest at the cost of votes who gave him victory. Similarly each small parties indulges in large scale bargaining or you may say wholesale business of sale and purchase of MLAs/MPs. Such parties try to join the coalition group which can form the government and give opportunity to earn more and more money by becoming minister or head of an organization or a hot cake institute. All policies, promises and agenda of the party are sacrificed, ignored and forgotten when they come to power. Their main aim becomes to earn and accumulate more and more money for their family and for next election. Obviously multi -cornered contest and multiparty system in election process has become a curse for democracy. Therefore there must be serious and devoted debate on this issue and we must try to opt for two party system. To start with I would like to suggest that all individual who get less than 5 percent of total voters in a constituency must not be allowed to fight in next election at least for ten years. Indivual who get less than 10 to 15 percent of votes polled should be prohibited from filing nomination in the next election. Existing MLA/MP who go for second election and cannot afford votes less than 30 to 40 percent of votes polled must be punished because due to his negligible performance voters of that area suffered. Similarly all small parties who get less than 10 percent of seats must be shown the door and registration of such party must be cancelled. To fill the gap candidates of bigger party in that particular constituency be given chance and declared winner. This will definitely result in minimizing the number of parties and ultimately give rise to two party system. The biggest drawback of multi party system or coalition government visible now in the country is that parties indulges in trading of its members and consequently voters feel mostly defrauded. I therefore strongly support Mr. Kalam that we should try to minimize parties and move towards two party system without strangulating the norms and principles of democracy.
RE:Two Party system is better
by Sunil on May 12, 2007 06:18 AM Permalink
I appreciate your thoughts on the real rperesentation of people. I have one suggestion that the parlementarians need to think of a system of eliminating the bogus candidates. There should be a second set of run of elections between top two finishers when there is no candidate with more than 50% of the polled vote. Thus the fragmented votes will clearly select a true candidate and can solve some of the problems you mentioned. THis system of election is followed in many developed democracies. I do not support the two party democracy because of the diverse nature of our demecracy.
RE:Two Party system is better
by Jayadev Acharya on May 12, 2007 07:24 AM Permalink
I really liked your suggestion Mr Sunil. I wish people who can implement it do so ....
RE:Two Party system is better
by Bharat on May 12, 2007 07:26 AM Permalink
Then which will be the two parties. 1: One party will be Indian National Congress and second party will be Bahujan Samaj Party. You will be happy with these two parties? Why it came in your mind now? Only beacuse one dalit leader won the election of UP and now she is going to rule one of the important state of india for 5 complete years. Why you people never accept the truth and reality and never digest the lower caste person to lead the country. Wait for that day and I am sure she will be future Prime Minister of our country.
RE:Two Party system is better
by tekas on May 12, 2007 06:39 AM Permalink
Sorry, I don't have the time to read your excellent (time invested) essay. But in principle I also second the idea of two party politics in India, which hopefully will end a major cause of corruption in politics in India...HORSETRADING...
RE:Two Party system is better
by videh kumar on May 12, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
Two party system, if developed on its own, then there is no problem. if it is imposed from a set self certifying social leaders then it will only kill the democracy. About 20 years we had almost every where Congress and smaller parties at state level. Now why congress could not maintain their leading position is perhaps because they took their voters for ride assuming they no other choice. For this important reason, may be for many more reasons, congress continues to go down. If there is any improvement it is because voters sometimes feel that it could have been a better party as they might have learnt their lesson. but when voters feel they have not changed they are again rejected. When voters get more alternatives and their socil, political, emotional and economic satisfaction is better then the congress find itself dumped in the voting preferrence. Congress tried and benefitted for too long a period due to ignorant, uneducated voters. Now voters are not ignorant and it is not difficult to continuously fool them. SAme route BJP had been taking and they also find them dumped. this tendency will grow as process of understanding the environment will only accelerate slowly but surely and will pick up momentum and within next 5 to 7 years the scenario will dramatcally change. Now coming to advise of two party system, it is of no use for the majority where rule of majority will prevail. Even now majority is being ruled by minority and the election in UP showed majority can rule on its terms. Two party system is advocated by our president is wrong and though very respectable and having come from very humble background is by no means a politician for a complicated democracy in India. His message is not good for the democracy because will not have many takers and if he over does it, will be termed mischivious, as it is only to further the interest of haves and are capable of shout like INDIA SHINING or UP mein dum hai or Ram lala chinta mat karo hum tumhara mandir banayenge or mulayam mere ganne ki mithas hai and so on. IT is our old mind set that has converted congress into a small party despite so much petronage given by voters for very long period. Point is if you restrict the options of voters you may willy nilly be interested in old system and conserving that which was, is and will continue to harm Indian people most and democracy next if we think of real democracy where we want fearless, hungerless well informed, equitable, caring and vibrating democracy. Videh kumar
RE:Two Party system is better
by zaheen usmani on May 12, 2007 06:05 AM Permalink
APJ Kalam do not ABC of Politics thus he is supporting only captalist and facist
RE:Two Party system is better
by ahamed sharif on May 12, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
read my earlier reply for earlier post named immaturity of muslims......
RE:Two Party system is better
by R K on May 12, 2007 06:23 AM Permalink
APJ Kalam may not know ABC of politics. Agreed. But he knows what is good for India. if not two party let there be a 3 or 4 party system so that electorate can choose from a small number of choices. this is not a super bazaar where you should have so many brands of a particular product.
Zaheen, do not forget that capitalism is the only way India can take its subjects out of poverty and not through communism, not through socialism or not through fanaticism, not through communalism. Fascists are found more today amongst communists and religious minorities.
Democracy is for people who believe in peaceful co-existence. How many in the minority communities believe in democracy. muslims does nto want to obey any law other than the good for nothing sharia, which is worse than manu's law or hammurabis code and is partial in its delivery of justice.
BJP and BSP represent two waves of Indian awakening. Hindu awakening and consolidation of Hindu forces by awakening the excluded groups and making them a part of the larger revolution underway to revitalise the ancient civilization. Muslims will play a marginal role in these scheme of things. Secularism is not for Asia. India is the last bastion of this imported secularism in this part of the world. Hindus will remain secular anyway but bit more aggressive too. Mayawati did a great job by ushering in new equations to consolidate and strengthen the indigenous culture - through dalit inclusion of brahmin and other hindus - though she had to do it out of compulsion of vote bank politics, she still did pull the great trigger herself. I don't know what Ambedkar or Kanshi Ram dreamt, but she is doing something different. RSS needs to make deals with her.
In our part of India, Brahmins wear a sacred thread.
VHP should organize a programme in every school where every Hindu student whoever goes to school should be given that thread in a ceremony as they are coming to seek knowledge -attribute of a Brahmin.
That will be better for society than many things vHP doing now.
RE:RE:consolidation is a continous process
by Radhika on May 12, 2007 05:37 AM Permalink
How many Brahmin's have personnaly treated u badly? Hope you are nor psycologically affected because a brahmin guy is competing and getting successful at work and u r defeated by him in merit. Or Though u were ready to give 20 lakhs a brahmin guy took the seat in merit!!
Is it ur complex that make u speak bad abt brahmins or a blind slogan "Brahmin's treat oterhs differently". I dont wonder if they treat u differently...what reservations have they got? Where r they praised nowadays? They r surrrounded by ppl with complex. So as long as ppl have the tought in their mind "Brahmins treat other's differently" they will be treated in their mind always.
And all student who go to school should get the BE,Medical seat in merit. NO RESERVATIONS....
RE:consolidation is a continous process
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 12, 2007 06:26 AM Permalink
@Radhika: I don't know whether you are really a "brahmin", or somebody faking identity here. Lot is people do that in the net to confuse people.
Anyway, crux of my argument is, caste as seen as heriditory is a psuedo identity/ Neither it has religious sanction.
Its one of the Varna whose qualities will have to be earned before calling himself a "brahman".
That's my understanding after reading Vivekanand, or Gandhi's writings.
This is bare minimum euality hindus will have to establish, otherwise it will be very difficult to sustain Hinduism as it faces huge onslaught from organized semitic religions.
RE:RE:RE:consolidation is a continous process
by ahamed sharif on May 12, 2007 09:37 AM Permalink
The selection committee dominated by Brahmin members coolly supports its community members. Exam papers are passed coolly to the candidate, question asked in interview are passed on to the candidate. But I appreciate the community works together and nothing gets disclosed.
RE:RE:RE:consolidation is a continous process
by Onlooker on May 12, 2007 05:39 AM Permalink
Also, all people who go for job interview should get selected. No community based RECOMMENDATIONS...
Swami Vivekanand spoke about coming "Shudra Revolution" some 100 years back. Next thing to happen is, Sanskritization. Give them respectful position in, a much denied share in the whole scheme of things.
This "caste" has to go, and non-heriditory meaning of "Varna" has to be established.
"Just by birth alone one doesn't become Brahmin. By his actions alone, one becomes brahmin"
--This spoke Buddha some 2500 years back.
Kick the butt of ignorant Brahmins or whoever treat people lowly because of their birth.
RE:consolidation is a continous process
by Radhika on May 12, 2007 05:35 AM Permalink
How many Brahmin's have personnaly treated u badly? Hope you are nor psycologically affected because a brahmin guy is competing and getting successful at work and u r defeated by him in merit. Or Though u were ready to give 20 lakhs a brahmin guy took the seat in merit!!
Is it ur complex that make u speak bad abt brahmins or a blind slogan "Brahmin's treat oterhs differently". I dont wonder if they treat u differently...what reservations have they got? Where r they praised nowadays? They r surrrounded by ppl with complex. So as long as ppl have the tought in their mind "Brahmins treat other's differently" they will be treated in their mind always.
RE:consolidation is a continous process
by Radhika on May 12, 2007 05:43 AM Permalink
Bhaskar chattopadhya is psycologically affected because he was defeated by a brahmin friend in his school and now in work. So he is telling bad abt brahmins. This is nto a place to talk ur personal experience sir. esp beacause a brahmin boy defeated u in merit...Keep ur complex to urself. The same to all who r jealous of brahmin's talents and success in their life with NO RESERVATIONS..
RE:RE:consolidation is a continous process
by ahamed sharif on May 12, 2007 09:34 AM Permalink
Bhaskar was not defeated by his brahmin friend, but his was defeat was engineered by his Brahmin teacher. And in his Job interview he was defeated by Brahmin interviewers and selection committee members.
RE:consolidation is a continous process
by ahamed sharif on May 12, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
100 years are over. How many more years are required to bring the change. Dalits are being USED by political parties dominated by upper castes. We hope that Mayawatis, Karunanidhis will elevate to centre stage of Central politics.
It's a great day for all people fed up with criminals, hate mongerers, bigots and racist/castiest.
Congratulations to Ms. Mayawati!
I am hoping that she can bring in justice, law and order and jobs to UP. After 15 years of coalition politics let this be a new beginning for all sections of the society irrespective of caste, creed, religion, gender and socio-economic status.
RE:End of coalition politics and a new beginning for all sections of the society !
by Sadasiva Prasad on May 12, 2007 05:25 AM Permalink
Coalition politics have come to an end in UP.Now Mayawathi is accountable for everything that happens now on. She cannot hide behind helplessness because of coalition. Let us wish her great success.
atlast we get to see the paralysed legs of Hindu(Bharat matha watever u like to call) gain some power ... i hope the head(brain) and chest(heart) wont create any problems and paralyse it again... There should be only 2 parties like Kalam asked for--one BJP and other BSP.
RE:good for hindustan..
by R K on May 12, 2007 06:34 AM Permalink
the problem again he BJP & BSP are a phenomena particular to north india. the same cannot be said about south india. Tamil Nadu is divided purely on the dravidan lines where neither BJP,BSP or Congress can make any mark. similary Kerala, its the Communists, Muslim League, Kerala Congress groups and Congress party. Here again BJP & BSP wil not be a significant players. Given this situation 2 party cannot be imposed, but a system should be evolved where any election to parliament regional parties should not be allowed to contest. By that yard stick even BJP, BSP, Congress, Communists also become just regional parties.
RE:RE:good for hindustan..
by your amre on May 12, 2007 04:08 AM Permalink
Congress is not even considered as a party.Probably, its a group of independents SO how can he be wrong, u scoundrel. Stop eating sh**
To become a chief minister of a state in India, you need to have the following qualification:
1) Acting
2) Public Speaking
3) Creating a problem
4) Not solving a problem
5) No Educational qualification
6) No Managerial experience
7) Stupidity
8) Make False Promises
9) Unemployed
10) Know to do caste politics
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RE:LONG LIVE INDIAN DEMOCRACY
by Anurag Gupta on May 12, 2007 03:35 AM Permalink
UmaShankar
Are you trying to say that you are uneducated, lazy, unskilled and a traitor? If not then why did you not contest? Why is it that someone else must do the job for you?
Your statement implies that the "preferred" Indians are actually not interested in the nation. Then could you explain why they are "preferred" in the first place?
RE:LONG LIVE INDIAN DEMOCRACY
by Onlooker on May 12, 2007 03:54 AM Permalink
"Prefferred" Indians are all recommendation cases. They are pushing the country backwards.
RE:LONG LIVE INDIAN DEMOCRACY
by gubbala sudhakar on May 12, 2007 04:23 AM Permalink
I am jotting this comment from Holland with an external viewpoint....Lets not be biased on the capability of a leader just because one is "rustic". We do not have the "Doon-trained" leading the country any longer. It is the Lalu's when given the right intent can turn our Railway the "Indian" way and I can only hope Mayawati can put her act for UP.
Just speaking native , being unpolished , talking what the real nation wants to hear should not get us to be biased on our judgement for people from a "typical" backgroud. Lets all strive to make our Nation really Great !
RE:LONG LIVE INDIAN DEMOCRACY
by Libran on May 12, 2007 04:54 AM Permalink
I largely agree with your points. But remember, Maya has three degrees including a law degree. She is not uneduacted.
I don't have any hope in BSP mainly because it came to power selling it tikets to the highest bidder and now they will try in every way (hook or crook, plunder or murder) to rake in moolah
RE:LONG LIVE INDIAN DEMOCRACY
by R K on May 12, 2007 06:41 AM Permalink
Umashankar
i do not understand what is the problem with u. if BJP or Congress had won do you think that purely because they are all educated and well behaved. No. Not at all. Look at the list of goons BJP had fielded in elections....no different from congess, SP or BSP.
every community has aspirations. when that is not met, there is frustration. today brahmins feel the heat, because they are not able to meet the challenge of the other communities politically and financially. now those communities wil move ahead in education, science, commerce etc. it is not a reason to think on partisan lines. you should rejoice, that people who about 20-30 years did not wish to change are now changing and creating a new society. victory and defeats are part of democratic elections, accept it. brahmins are no more superior. and will never be.
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by Undertaker on May 12, 2007 03:05 AM Permalink
She does not have the guts to enter Lucknow without Z level security!! The upper castes hate her; already the BJP is in talks to form a coalition with the SP in the next Lok Sabha elections!! In the next Lok Sabha elections in UP, out of 85 seats, BSP will get about 5!! not moer than that!! BJP is winning 60 out of 85!! then people like you will run away!! Neways, people like you can go to Sadiyal bihar, why are you spoiling UP??
RE:RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by R K on May 12, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
wishful thinking is good on paper. all the best.
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by Carlton Alvares on May 12, 2007 04:22 AM Permalink
SHAME ON ALL OF U WHO CALL YOURSELF INDIAN BUT STILL LIVE IN THE DARK AGES WHERE CASTE, CREED AND COLOUR PAID AN IMPORTANT ROLE.NO WONDER THE BRITISH CAME AND RULED US BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS SO CALLED CASTE FACTOR. WE ARE NOW IN THE 21ST CENTURY SO I IMPLORE ALL U EDUCATED AND LITERATE FOLK TO WAKE UP AND STRIVE FOR A BETTER INDIA WHICH IS NOT BASED ON CASTE, PARTY OR REGION.
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by R K on May 12, 2007 06:43 AM Permalink
i dondt think mayawati will stoop to that levels. if that was the case she would not have fielded so many brahmins and uppercaste candidates
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by LionKing on May 12, 2007 03:16 AM Permalink
Look at the quality and language of your comment. This only goes to show that even if you guys are given a 100% reservation, you will not change!!
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by mohini on May 12, 2007 03:28 AM Permalink
what good u have done with all the merit,treating people like animals with all your inteligence
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by Amit Jaggi on May 12, 2007 03:41 AM Permalink
What you are talking happened long back and no one is denying that. But today, you are being treated like animals by your own people. Your real enemy is not the upper caste, but the rich and wealthy of your own caste!!
RE:Mayawati will crush the pride and morals of Forward caste
by Sadasiva Prasad on May 12, 2007 05:33 AM Permalink
The greatest thing that happened in the UP elections is the Congress is crushed. From 22 seats to 202 is a long way.A dynamic leader who could do this in the Congress does not appear on the horizon.According to the PM "Rahul is the future of UP" and this my countrymenis the future.Take it and enjoy.
RE:This is an unfortunate time for Upper castes
by Globe Mart on May 12, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
for the past 50 yeras you have done attrocities on dalits and be ready to face chappals of mayabati.
RE:RE:This is an unfortunate time for Upper castes
by BIKASH SINGH on May 12, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
tum log abuse message bhejne wale anti social anti hindu anti indian tum logo ko phansi par chada thena chahiye kyonki jo dusro ki ijjat nahi karta woh kya apni maa bahan ki ijjat karega so please don't type this type of message. election to open hai mayabati jitey ya mulayam dalit jite ya brahaman akhir mein to woh hai indian aur sab milkar hi ek developed up bansaktey hai akele brahaman ya akele dalit nahi so please unite and song hum ek hai hum ek bharat maa key santan hai koi uncha koi nicha nahi hai
Before partition Zinna stood for muslims and got them pakistan. What did congress stood for ? Nehur's PM chair ? This election also shows congress only stood for power, money and "Gandhi (questionable)" family.
But luckily Indian voter has become way smart now !!
Poor Rahul must be thinking what a waste of time, should rather be having fun in Italian beaches :-)
RE:What does congress stand for ?
by Sadasiva Prasad on May 12, 2007 05:40 AM Permalink
If Manmohan SIngh, Pranab Mukherjee, Shivraj Patil remain the highlights of the Congress, what else can you expect to happen to that party ? Very soon it will be wiped out of the Indian political scene. Probably this is how they manage politics in Italy !!
DID YOU KNOW, THAN IN 1946 ELECTION, CONGRESS DID NOT WIN A SINGLE SEAT ENMARKED FOR MUSLIMS IN PRESENT DAY GEOGRAHIC INDIA? ALL WERE OWN BY JINNA'S MUSLIM LEAGUE.
BUT CONGRESS CLAIMS THAT MUSLIMS WERE IT DURING FREEDOM STRUGGLE.
RE:What does congress stand for ?
by prakash kumar on May 12, 2007 03:08 AM Permalink
I feel for hindus. For muslims there was Zinna before partition. But who was for hindus ? If you talk to non hindus they like the fact that hindus are dividied in so many castes and rather fight among themselves.
RE:What does congress stand for ?
by KAUSTABH GHOSH on May 12, 2007 03:55 AM Permalink
Bhaskar Dada I feel really sorry for u. It is a pity that a learned person like you are after some particular religion.If you behave like this then what will others do. All your message is simple stupid stuff and proves your ignorance.We have lot many things to discuss rather than what you are doing after BJP loosing.If BJP won or as Mayavati has won nothing will change in your life.A more matured bahaviour is expected from you...
GHOSH-BHAI: HAHA..UNLESS U FACE FACTS, NOTHING IS GOING TO COME OUT. IT HAS TO BE RECONCILED.
AND STOP SHRINKING THE MOMENT 'MUSLIM' IS UTTERED.
THIS KNEE-JERK REACTION HAS DONE GREAT DAMAGE TO THAT COMMUNITY, AND NOW REST OF US ARE BEING AFFECTED.
WHY YOU WANT TO HIDE JINNAH'S HATEFILLED POLITICS WHICH GOT SUPPORT FROM BOTH ALIGARH AS WELL AS MULLAHS?
WHY YOU WANT TO HIDE (SAY) MEDIEVAL DEATH-DESTRUCTION, WHILE FACT REMAINS THOSE WERE DONE BY INVADERS, BUT MOST INDIAN MUSLIMS (EVEN 75% PER JINNAH OR 90% PER NEHRU) ARE INDIGENEOUS?
FACE FACTS BRAVELY, THEN ONLY SOMETHING MAY COME OUT.
BY SWEEPING STUFF UNDER CARPET ACTUALLY DO MORE DAMAGE.
RE:What does congress stand for ?
by Anil Tandale on May 12, 2007 05:12 AM Permalink
Even without Jinnah, the outlook of Muslims are identical as in 1946, and the Congress is ever ready to concede unborn demands through the dubious Sachar Commission. The UP electorate gave fitting reply to the party whose minister announced ransom reward to kill the Danish journo whose cartoon no body has seen. The Stalinist Communists of 2-Karat purity like Yechury, D. Raja and Javed, Mira Nair, who shamelessly come in support of poster painter MF Hussain, did not choose to bark about freedom of art or civil liberty of cartoonist. Excess of Muslim pampering by Mulayam from killing of Hindus in 1990 at Ayodhya onwards, has been his undoing. The Communists should wind up their parties, because dalits are truly represented by their caste-mate Mayavati, and not Brahmin born bourgeoise leaderships marinated from JNU.
RE:RE:What does congress stand for ?
by Sadasiva Prasad on May 12, 2007 05:45 AM Permalink
In the name of freedom of art, if tomorrow Hussain paints Sonia Gandhi, Ambika Soni, Shiela Dikshit in the nude, will Congress still support the idea of freedom of art ?
