RE:Caste-system
by Ali Baba on May 31, 2007 06:32 PM Permalink
You guys are backward because your nature, that is why you keep parroting old rotten execuses. If Ambedkar who was very-very poor from a village could come up in life in 100 year back India then with all reservation for last half century why you guys still need breast feeding?
Why do you need uncle-should-help-me attitude, because you guys know you are really inferior to face competition
RE:Caste-system
by Ali Baba on May 31, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
by Narad on May 31, 2007 05:34 PM | Hide replies
Why the backwards keep cribbling? Ambedkar asked for 10 years we gave them 60 years.
Also if Ambedkar himself comeup in life without reservation it shows one with real class will always succeed & 60 years of reservation support is god gift.
Then what is the excuse? Some genetic inferiority has developed in these reservation peple? One thing is certain they keep harping like old gramaphone record.....
RE:Caste-system
by BannedMike Jordan on May 31, 2007 08:24 PM Permalink
qweqwe, you have typical Brahmin mentality. What do you mean "Brahmins are a billion times superior to you beggars"??? Brahmins dont have two wings and dont fly in air that they become superior.
Caste System is flourishing because of people like you who still consider brahmins are superior. Unless you get rid of this kind of thinking, caste system and reservation would continue.
There can be little doubt of a sinister hand behind this violent Gujjar agitation - it's too well plannned and organized to be spontaneous. The $64 question: who stands to gain most from destabilising the govt? Find out who's been pushing quotas as the only remedy for social development and you'll find out who behind this attempt to bring down the Rajasthan govt through violence.
everyone fights for their rights BUT DO THEY KNOW THEIR DUTIES TOWARDS INDIA ? SOMEBODY ASK THEM WHAT DO U DO FOR UR COUNTRY. DON´T ASK WAT COUNTRY CAN DO FOR U BUT WAT CAN U DO FOR UR COUNTRY.. JFK yes ! we have rights in democracy but wat about our responsibilties . do u pay tax ? do u work honestly for country ? do u think before u throw any paper or garbage on road ? wat do u do for ur country??
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by Ali Baba on May 31, 2007 05:51 PM Permalink
Why do keep repeating old American President's dialogue? Is Pepsi, Coke not enough that you bore us with junk.....As a salaried person I obviously pay Taxes (no chance to cheat), and as a private sector employee I earn my salary (again no chance to cheat)....and being from non reserved category got my job on merit not reservation quota.
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by Joyee Funee on May 31, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
We can not do anything for India, as we are not getting govt job due to quota system
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by nidhi dawesar on May 31, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
ALL I KNOW IS IF U R GOOD ENOUGH U DON´T NEED TO HAVE GOVT JOB . U CAN GET PRIVATE JOB.
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by Sourav Singh on May 31, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
Dont worry buddy soon we will have quota of 50% there too.
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by Joyee Funee on May 31, 2007 06:00 PM Permalink
Then Who will bring forward our country ?
Public sector is not performing well so govt is disinvesting (this is proof how quota syatem can harm the growth AS ORGANISATION RUN BY PEOPLE )
Since so fare there is no reservation in private sector the success of private sector is proof, that progress can be made by hiring people on merit basi s
RE:everyone fights for their rights BUT........
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 06:00 PM Permalink
agree with u Nidhi............We not only have rights.....we have our duties for the nation...........in fact this congress regime should be an eye opener for all.........it is able to manipulate us bcause we have not done our duties in past........
In India the majority of the voters are largely ignorant.......The more people r educated....the less politicians / religious teachers ......can fool them.......
we cannot be fooled by an uneducated italian waitress.........and make her our PM......if everyone is educated enough......
In fact all of us should take a pledge......of doing something for the nation.......... we can teach in schools during holidays.........we can go to u r nearest village and give a scolarship for the student who competes into Univ without reservation.....finance his education......and ask him to do the same when he gets a job.....we can do a lot....
we have to work tirelessley to remove the ignoracne in our society........ only then will this maliase end.........
Why the backwards keep cribbling? Ambedkar asked for 10 years we gave them 60 years.
Also if Ambedkar himself comeup in life without reservation it shows one with real class will always succeed & 60 years of reservation support is god gift.
Then what is the excuse? Some genetic inferiority has developed in these reservation peple? One thing is certain they keep harping like old gramaphone record.....
RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by Rehana on May 31, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
It was not Ambedkar but Gandhi who had agreed for just 10 years but Congress continued it for sake of votes.
RE:RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
Rehana ji Forget who did? Tell me how can we solve such issues. Tum to HIndustani ho.
RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:43 PM Permalink
Narad jii, My friend, this is a vote bank game, and who don't like to increase his bank balance? Samzhe bhai, some want to increse popullation of dalits, some want to increase popullation of muslim, some hindu ect. The day when dalit vote for brahmin, muslim vote or hindu and hindu vote for cristians all such problems will washout automatically.
RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 05:50 PM Permalink
I tend to agree with u Rashid on this one...........the day all r eductaed.....and people make decisions on individual thinking and not vote en block.......the problems will end..........that day politicians will really have to start working like public servants.....right now they r ruling us.......
RE:RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:58 PM Permalink
We are competent enough to become politicians. Have the confidence and say yes I will bring my country shining. We will get til.
RE:RE:RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 06:02 PM Permalink
Dont look at others Rehana jii, Say I will do it, and start from today, small things or small efforts of all will bring this country a heaven.
RE:WILL SOMEONE TELL ME.........?
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
This time in UP elections............there were some IITians who stood in elections..........but the lost badly........but if the voter is educated enough........we can find parties like these winning in a big way in future............
Devi Mata Raje,Its a conspiracy of Opposition and anti-social elements against you. Vasundra is neat and clean CM and Rajasthan is developing very fast.For the sake of Rajasthan people,she walked on ramp at NY.Many actress liek Malika Sherawat inspired by her
We are having free for all debate, some not knowing it will mistake it as quarrel & chaos. But we dont keep any poison festering in our belly. That is why we are far stronger than any dictatorship
In fact there must be no reservation of any kind. The people who are scanned out to be deprived must be give free food, free cloths, free books, school-college fee exempted and such facilities but the competition of any kind must be fair, entrances, appointments must be fair and without any reservations, then only the society can improve. The expenditure on such free facilities must be made out of the money which is being spent on these thug and rogue politicians. The facilities of these politicians must be curtailed. Gandhiji had envisaged the reservation for only 10 years after independence but Congress for want of votes continued it and now has pushed our country in turmoils.
RE:There must be no reservation
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
Completely agree with u rehana........but the problem is......if there is no problem........then who will come to politicians..........this is what they live by............by creating problems........this is thier bread and buttter........we should shoot all politicians like VP Singh, Arjun Singh.point blank.........
RE:There must be no reservation
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
Goel jiii sab ko mar doge to aap ke vote ki market value khatam ho jaegii.
RE:RE:There must be no reservation
by Rehana on May 31, 2007 05:29 PM Permalink
Rashid if you are pakistani then please handle your country and try to bring democracy in your country.Then only you can be eligible to talk here
RE:RE:There must be no reservation
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:30 PM Permalink
Geol jii aap ke kadwe shabko ke liye dhanyawad, aap ko bata du mein bhi hundustani hu aur apne desh ko utna hi pyar karta hu jita aap. Kya kar lenge hum aur aap? kuch nahi , Hum to buss vote dena jante hai, Iss desh ne ak kimti vote ke siwa kya diya humko?
RE:RE:RE:There must be no reservation
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:33 PM Permalink
Rehana yeh feling kisi bhi indian ki ho sakti hai jab wo apne desh ko jalta dekhta hai, iska literacy se koi wasta nahi. mein kya hu kya jantaa hu yeh hum phir kabhi discuss karenge
RE:There must be no reservation
by Rehana on May 31, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
Rashid I am glad that you are Indian. Atleast we can try. And efforts dont waste remember?
RE:RE:RE:RE:There must be no reservation
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
One more thing Rashid.........if ur freedom fighters would have thought.........ki hum log kya kar sakthe hain against the mighty British and thier trained forces..........we would never would have got indipendence.......we have to fight tirelessley.........but in the right direction........hopefully by educating a few more in our society.......
RE:There must be no reservation
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 05:39 PM Permalink
Dear Rashid..........hum log bahut kuch kar sakte hain ......apart from giving vote.......
We not only have rights.....we have our duties for the nation........
we can teach in schools during holidays.........go to u r nearest village and give a scolarship for the student who competes into Univ without reservation.....finance his education...........we can do a lot....
The more people r educated....the less politicians / religious teachers ......can fool them.......we cannot be fooled by an uneducated italian waitress.........and make her our PM......Try and do u r duty.......
yes u and me r frustrated rashid..............but the fact is that without us voting them.........how could have congress come into power...??? It means there r still a lot of work for people like u and me.......we have to work tirelessley to remove the ignoracne in our respective societies / religion etc........
RE:There must be no reservation
by BannedMike Jordan on May 31, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
I think you guys are misunderstanding Rashid. He is being satirical and trying to show the attitude of a common Indian. Many people dont talk big but act small and Rashid is trying to show that thinking of a common Indian.
As Abhinvav said education is the key. If enough voters are educated they can think about right and wrong and wont be exploited by politicians for votebank.
Govt and Politicians will never undertake any effort to educate the masses. It is upto concerned Indian citizens to educate the masses by whichever way possible. Maybe educating people in your locality might be a good beginning
RE:There must be no reservation
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 06:08 PM Permalink
Small efforts required Mere Bhai, Hum ko jo galat dikhta hai usko thik karein Never ignore that,for examle- If my father is a police man I should tell him -be Honest, if not i will not stay with you, in such way we can give our country a big helping hands.
RE:There must be no reservation
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
ooe tu desh ko peche le jaa raha hai. Hum to America mein reservation lane ki baat kar rahe hai aur tu khatam karne ki baat kah raha hai. Mere Bhai after all we are Indians. Shabash India. Shining India yeh
RE:There must be no reservation
by abhinav goel on May 31, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Rashid...........u dirty loser....i know the reason for u feeling so elated........but dear read the story of u r beloved Pakistan also..13 people killed in a terrorist attack. It is a daily occurence there.
aasman pe thookoge to apne mooh par hi aa kar girega...samjhe.......
Dont worry India is shining (more than 9% growth) and will shine more brightly once this nightmare of congress govt ends.....
Mr Seth is very much right. But dont u think guys that somewhere we are also at fault by not VOTING. we only blame politicians .Politicains are nerds especially congress who are taking our country nowwhere. WE all educated people should come together to change this system. its of no use discussing here on this forum.Govt only arranges for SC/ST and hutments to vote wat abt us.. we software professioanls travel for job in different cities. they should make one single identity card so that we can vote in any city provided only once.. why not technology is used in our country.. only solution to this is we all educated people coming together against this filthy system.. we should be ashamed.. a waitress of other foreign country is ruling our country.. why did all great freedom fighters fight to free our country..... if govt wants to uplift those people give them free promary and secondary education .. give them even 11th and 12th free education.. after that let them go ahead on merits... why so easy way only for SC/ST and backwards.. give them a good foundation in their scholl for free rest MERIT will decide.. this is good.. they score 20 30% rite from school and they get reservations where ever they go.. now they will soon get reservation in IIM and IIT and soon they will get reservation in provate sectors.. wow where the hell our country is heading.. if congress stays back for long india is gone for ever... congress knows how to get votes.. from minorities.. they wont do anythi
V.P.SINGH IS PURE DALIT THIS MESSAGE IS FOR ALL THE UP PEOPLE KNOW LETEST COME OUT FIGURE OF THE UP SAYS THAT HE WAS FOUND ON THE ROAD AND KEPT BY RAJPUT,BUT HIS BLOOD IS NOT RAJPUT,MAY BE DALIT OR MUSLIM.......INVESTIGATE IT PLEASE AND THINK WHY HE TAKEN THE STAN WHICH INIDRA GANNDHI HAD NOT TAKEN HE OPENED THE MANDAL'S KAMANDAL
RE:READ IT V.P.SINGH
by RASHID on May 31, 2007 05:23 PM Permalink
Mere Bhai Rana jii , Hum to vote hi dete hai cast or religion ke naam per phir kaam karne ki ummed kyu?
I think right person should be included in reservation, who really deserve/require it, It become now like a single/some community are getting reservation even many of them are in much better placed and their childrens , their grand childrens are getting reservations... It can create frustration to other communities and I think it is the responsibility of government to make some policies so that those who have already availed reservation, their childrens should not be allowed to availed reservation. And always there is inclusion of community in reservation category whether it is ST, SC or OBC, why there is no REMOVAL of community from this reservation list. If there is no community that can be removed from reservation list after providing reservation for many years, then I think their can be two possibility. Either the reservation policies are poorly planned or it is just a political issue now. AND NOW TIME HAS COME TO LOOK AND THINK AGAIN ABOUT ALL RESERVATION POLICIES.
