RE:trait..
by masood ahmed on May 29, 2007 08:22 PM Permalink
hello javed akhtar lyrics and values are respected by all true indians in all spheres of life and by all communities so if he has said something about criminal police and remember the inspector who shot sohrabuddin was a muslim from rajasthan police so javed saab is against criminals in uniforms ok please recollect how many times u and all indians like me apprecaited his social stances and positions and human works and poems take this without bias and as eye opener
What is your interest in Gujarat Mr. Javed? Could you please move another PIL in Mumbai too. The encounter specialist killed nearly one thousand out of it many are fake.
If you are not doing it shall we call you a Terrorist supporter?
RE:Is he crazy?
by Jim Baker on May 29, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
filing a pil against fake encounters means he is supporting some terrorist organisation.
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 03:13 PM Permalink
Santosh dint u get a single Muslim friend in ur lifetime..its ur character problem..I have many brahmin close friends.. If you want to know about prophet try to read quran and hadiths..
I can write anything about a religion and put it in a website..i can say that earth is flat and put it in a site..Will u believe that.. Try to learn Islam from authentic sources not from the websites that are prohibited.
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Indian on May 29, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
hey rediff !!! what happened ??? I posted a incorrect message ...u r keeping it and when I am correcting it u r deleting it !!! what's going on ????
RE:RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
that means Rehman, you never read koran.....better you read and you will see more atrocious things
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 03:32 PM Permalink
I have read and completed quran in my 10 yrs.I know the meanings of everything.. Ok i will ask u 1 question.. Have u read all ur 4 vedas?..If u have read ur vedas and upanishads then u wont abuse other religion
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by Jim Baker on May 29, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
u have same mentality like al-qaeda.. they also talk such bull shit about non-muslims
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
the vedas or upanishads never ever tell any thing about killing of kafirs or atheists.
the above books are not all about worshipping gods.
These books are not the commands of how to live..how to marry...etc......better you read these books before comparing.
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
To santosh: thanks for atleast agreeing to some extent on the truth. To answer u simply earlier it was US and UK against communism.Now it is US and UK against ISlam..I need to write a big article to make u understand the truth.
To On:U say kafir..ppl killed in hydbad and malegaon are not kafirs Ok..Kafir is not a bad word.Its meaning is non-muslim in arabic thats all.. Till now i was in a understanding that vedas and upanishads are hindu holy scriptures..i thought vedas are from God..But u are saying something different..Further I have read some part of Rig ved
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Santosh R. Srivatsa on May 29, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
But What it is the guarantee that whatever you say about your followers is true...
Now the question arises what is the truth about the site ... isint it.....
But its not one many site's which say so...
Also it also comes from an authentic source which is our history books from the school.. who talk about atrocities done by muslims in the name of religion...
so after the concusion of the history books and the site given by me...
It looks true to me.......
And hence the rise of Hindu extrimist organisations like RSS,Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena.....
RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
why do u think mughals alone as the muslims..THeir period was for supremacy and they may or may not have done mischief..that is what history has taught us.. If Islam is full of wronf information why does it has so many followers in 20th century.. Islam is there in western countries as well..they are educated and they wont accept when something has flaws
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
Is Islam is forced wny they are not getting converted now. But dear the most no of people getting converted are hindus to christianity or buddists.Does it mean that Hindu scriptures are bad.. you cannot see a muslim converting back to some other religion..it is because of the belief and truth.. if we start speaking about history i can say that there could have been some other religion before hinduism who got converted to Hindus by someone.. to remind u what mughals tried to use their power on people.. as far as i know no hindu raja destryed mosque but ur beloved advani destryed babar mosque..Iam not going to argue its bad or good.. But try to respect other religion.whatever the forum simply dont blame on muslims.. try to uplift the indian muslims so that we shall eradicate the evil forces in our sciety together..
RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by Santosh R. Srivatsa on May 29, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
If Islam has so many followers, they were forced to adopt islam... at some point or the other...
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Santosh R. Srivatsa on May 29, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
From what ever you have written, I understand that you are just talking about mughals....
But there were others too...
Show me a hindu Raja or an emperor who destroyed a mosque...
But I will show you many muslim kings or emperors who have destroyed temples in the name of religion.
RE:RE:as u sow u will reap
by Roorkee Ghissu on May 29, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
I have stayed in UK quite a lot and the kind of freedom that Muslims or any other religion have got is amazing even better than Pakistan,India etc. It is these countries who went against Milosevic who was slaughtering Serbian Muslims.But you guys forget these and name them anti Muslims because of Afghanistan/Iraq.I do not feel that they have gone after Iraq or Afghanistan because they are Muslim countries. The reasons can be many except this.They have got majority support in these countries which obviously is Muslim support.
RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
Kafir means " non believer in single god"
Vedas or upanishads are not books telling you about god. It is advising you about a culture and life..it has come from god. It never preache worship only me.....or tell if not i will punish you. It give you freedom to believe or not, it dont scare with satan, it dont call non believers kafir and provoke others to kill kafirs.....no one there are pedophilics......so now better you read it full then talk
RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
dont read the translations....read the original devanagiri sanskrit ones. there is a lot of dump heads with little knowledge on sanskrit have done translations
RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
what about atrocity against women, not allowing them to worship in mosque with others...only women are covered in clothes where you guys move around in dashing dreses. why women are forced to be co wives.where you guys go on marry and divorce on your will.......all these are the teachings there or you agree these are wrongs?
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
1.Who said women are not allowed to worship in mosque.Then can but not in the same place where men worship..Its not atrocity it is to stop u distracted when u pray.Wont u get distracted in temple when u see a good looking girl. 2.why women are asked to be modest in dress if a girl eve tease a boy there is not much effect.but in reality are not men teasing women who wear modern dress.Truth is in US more women are accpeting islam..so i dont need much comment about it.. 3.marrying more than a wife was allowed because many muslim men were killed by christians and jews during battle.So instead of these women going to prostitution its better to marry them legally..But i know many are misusing them. In India also earlier Hindu women were modest in dress..see still in rajastan women cover their faces.. there are many lower caste ppl not allowed inside the temple. many men invloves in adultery with one wife..Poor fellow..think think
RE:as u sow u will reap
by on May 29, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
what a great concern about gals! What about the modesty of men? why the muslim men india dont wear clothes like that of arabians? when you say about distraction while worshipping that means all you guys go there to see gals? just by seeing a gal if the belief goes, is your belief so brittle and silly?
Well to prevent prostitution prophet brough it, i agree, but why then you guys dont allow it to revise and want only personal law as per shariat? when you are adamant about the teaching why you guys not taking the shariat criminal law and taking only civil law? Why the ahmadiyaa not been allowed in mosque and chased called kafirs? Why the shia and sunnis fight and kill each other? better take the stick out of your eye, before you take the dust out of somebody else eye
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
You are telling what i need to say..Truth is Bitter..It is the problem with the people(inlcudes christians,hindus and muslims as well) in the world who wants to eradicate Islam because 1.It prohibits drnking 2.It prohibits adultery 3.It encourage women modesty not as u say like fashion shows 4.It ask u to be true to God. 5.It tells u not to be as slaves 6.It eliminated racial discrimination 7.It wants to eliminate poverty 8.It eradicated untouchability..List goes on
RE:as u sow u will reap
by Santosh R. Srivatsa on May 29, 2007 03:13 PM Permalink
Dont call it by the name u called it... It is legal because their prophet did it...... isint it Rehman
and they are following them...
and a small incident in gujrat.... they shout...
They donot understand that their forefathers have done more than what happened in gujrat...
RE:casteism
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:25 PM Permalink
Right u r...but I think christians are much better mannered than the mollahs. They don't victimise innocent people in the name of Jihad.
RE:RE:RE:casteism
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 04:33 PM Permalink
not in the name of Jiahd but in the name of war they killed japanese,vietnamese,germans,russians,italians and now muslims
RE:casteism
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 02:48 PM Permalink
cool down indian.. i too an indian..Pls go have ur lunch.u r very hungry and thats why u r shouting..pls eat ur lunch..
RE:RE:casteism
by Indian on May 29, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
very good > good to know that u love ur country.I have not abused any other religion, I abused ur so called mollahs who exploits ur own people. think Rahman...one day u will find ur own 14 yr old son fighting with a gun for a reason which will never be his own instead of going to school and studying for a better future.
RE:casteism
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
I am very proud to be an Indian who respect other religion, not like you who say as Indian and abuse other religions.I love my country.
RE:casteism
by Santosh R. Srivatsa on May 29, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Its better than begging pakistan for bombs and guns to destroy peace in india.... and in the whole world
RE:casteism
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
Indians are destroying themselves asking help to US which in turn help pakistan..Any answer for that.. Would you shout like that against US?
RE:GOd is with Modi
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
Why my message is irritating u so much !!!! r u a Pakistani ??? if not ..please read my message properly it is in the best interest of India.
RSS and its co-outfits must be banned. Similarly the so called MUSLIM extremist orgs should be banned. If INDIA beleives it self as a secularist democratic socity, then it should comeforward to tell its citizen that the GREAT INDIA will protect its citizen whether he is an HINDU or a MUSLIM. IF it shows the real power of a secularist democratic republic then this coward sangh and other exterimist will vanish. The issue is just because of the weakness of our administration. INDIA cannot be in peace unless the COUNTRY stand on its feet to ban all those self-pretended relegious protectors. In that case no fake killings or real killings will happen. THE RSS croocked propaganda is broadcasting to its people the mantra "you are at risk", "your culture is at risk" ..... and makes friction amoung the communities. The GOVT must has to comeforward to have a wide searching for illegal weapons house by house from PM to ministers to the ordinary people. Then tight its borders and ban all the militant organization. Each SOUL in this country must have free mind to chose his faith and political party.
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
what about LET, JEM, Al-Q, Mujahidin ??? Hasan come out of narrowminded biasness, ur religion is not going to feed u. It's ur work and values that matters, religion is secondary and completely personal. Whatever ...u people are brainwashed fools ...u will never understand.
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Abdul Rehman on May 29, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
LET, JEM, Al-Q, Mujahidin all are pakistan based terror org killing indians..So why cant RSS/VHP/bajrang go and kill the pakistanis..why are u killing indian muslims for that..we are here to serve for this country..Not to betray..
RE:RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
"we are here to serve this country" the greatest joke of the millenium......we have seen the service at kashmir/hyderabd/coimbatore/bangalore/delhi and every where
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Dear Rehman, I know they r all Pakistanis but they r not killing Pakistani people !!! they r killing only Indians (e.g. Hindus in Kashmir). So stop kidding me and shut ur mouth up. RSS and VHP baj are no good I know that, but at least they r not anti-Indians.
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by hasan on May 29, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
I think, If you read my article your doupt will be cleared. I said muslim militancy also. OK for your confirmation LET, JEM, Al-Q, Mujahidin and SIMI must be banned. Don't come later and say you din't include another outfit. COZ truly i don't know the whole outfit names, I just mentioned few. Even if it is not there, IF they thinks of militancy then ban them and take action against it. And on brain wash, the Hindus in INDIA are most brainwashed. You understand MUSLIM and CHRITIAN and SIKH then you will feel that you were wrong. That is why those MUSLIMS in INDIA and our forefathers brought to the MUSLIM Faith
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
I am not challenging ur message neither I am against muslin community or religion. To me my country and countrymen comes first. Canu tell me how many Indian muslims think like that ??? to them their muslim bhais comes first then rest of the world. Give me a true answer Hasan..........
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by ramesh kumar on May 29, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
the most true answer is father of the nation. Present president od india.want to say anything about him. do you dare. now name any such present hindu true lover who has equally contributed to the nation this much.. dare to say. waiting ......................
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 02:25 PM Permalink
The whole problem india having is because of muslims. Look at any criminals they are muslims Any terrorists they are muslims where ever muslims are majority there is communal tensions where ever muslims are majority, there is separatism Muslims want shariat law for civil laws because they can marry 7 times they dont want shariat criminal law because it punishes severly
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by Indian on May 29, 2007 02:49 PM Permalink
I like buddhism, they don't exploit people like mollahs !! So what 1 lakh hindus changed religion they will still be Indians only.
RE:THE PROBLEM INDIA FACES IS BECOZ OF RSS
by on May 29, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
Budhists are hindus only as per constituion. Hindus worhsip budha as the incarnation of vishnu..so dont worry hassan
