Dear mr. Upadhya bringing RDX killing innoncents are crime either done by terrorist or policeman.It responsiblity of government to check and controll but an elected goverment can not kill innocents, the govermnet responsiblity is to prevail harmony in the society despite the Bajpai suggestion of Raj Dhram Modi was engage in doing partiality in the name of caste and religion. As far as Hindutva is concern I like Hindutva and like ram rajya and want its establishment but I never like Modi style Hindutva and there is no rise of modi hindutva in the country except in gujrat, up is an example.
Hindutva is for peace and equlity and justice Lord Rama never prevailed partiality.
Hey ram what is going on this country especially in Gujrat in your name save the country and the humanity.
In Islam Jihad means fight against false and expolitation and untruth,like Hinduism unfortunatily western media has defame jihad and they declare jihad means killing innocent.Killing of innocents person in Islam is not allowed and prohibited.
Javed Shabnam Teesta Harsh Mander Geeta jauhari are also doing Jihad against the Modi false regime and it is the true Jihad which is permitted in Islam to prevail justice and peace.
Dear Harsh, I am sure by the effort of these people we shall be able to sing again sare jahan se Achcha Hindustan hamara
RE:Jihad in islam
by ravishankar singh on May 29, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
than my dear zaheen why none amongst from muslim community raise their voices against the false jihad and why they are giving opportunity to western people and hindu people to malign your version of jihad , and do these jihadi terrorist will accept your version of jihad and you true jihadis ever aggressively oppose the false jihad and if you people will do this Modi will be left with no job.
RE:RE:Jihad in islam
by True indian on May 30, 2007 08:53 AM Permalink
gujarat riot was a punishment for the godhra killings. So many sat and watched. What you guys did when congress was ruling and same muslims got killed. So the problem is who killed you. So you accept to be the obedient dogs of congress and if the master beeat a slave, its privelege????
RE:Jihad in islam
by JGN on May 29, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
Dear Usmani, the problem is not with the religion but the present day dalals of the same. Every thing has to be interpreted according to time and space. What the Prophet said in the context of 7th Century Arabia is not applicable in the 21st century. We cannot hold what is written in the Koran as universal truth. As far as Mr. Javed Akhtar is concerned, he sometimes behaves like a religious fanatic. I had held him in high esteem but after watching an interview he gave on a TV Channel during the last Lok Sabha elections, I have lost all respect for him.
RE:Jihad in islam
by zaheen usmani on May 29, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
Dear JGN and ravishanker fighting against untruth, unjustice will continue till the end of world this true Jihad done during time of Prophet and still valueble unfortunatily few people including Muslims malign it.Hindu know it very well and they support Muslims in each and every action against wrongs either it is gujrat geonocide or any other issues.Hindus always support Muslims since Lord krishna support Arjun for the sake of truth.But few RSS gay are doing politics
RE:RE:Jihad in islam
by Surya Kanishka on May 30, 2007 12:33 AM Permalink
Is this a modern defination ??? if I were wrong who are Ghazni, Ghori, Taimur, Shah Abdul Abdali, Nadir, Babur, Ghiasuddin, Iktiar bin Bhktiar, Aurangzeb etc etc to name a few ??? according to you were sufi saints like nanak, kabir, they were singing songs of Ram & Rahim, unity jihad.
Why all ME nations have national song and everyone sings with great fervour ??? why not in India ?? is anyone coercing perople ???
In Islam Jihad means fight against false and untruth,like Hinduism when Lord Krishna favoured Arjun and save truth, unfortunatily western media has defame jihad and they declare jihad means killing of innocents.Killing of innocents in Islam is not allowed and stricky prohibited.
Javed Shabnam Teesta Harsh Mander are also doing Jihad against the Modi false and it is the true Jihad which is permitted in Islam to prevail justice and peace.
and dear Harsh,I am sure by the efforts of these people we shall be again able to sing sare jahan se accha Hindustan hamare.
RE:Jihad in Islam
by ravishankar singh on May 29, 2007 11:31 PM Permalink
than my dear zaheen why none amongst from muslim community raise their voices against the false jihad and why they are giving opportunity to western people and hindu people to malign your version of jihad , and do these jihadi terrorist will accept your version of jihad and you true jihadis ever aggressively oppose the false jihad and if you people will do this Modi will be left with no job.
Lord krishna never advocated organised killing as being done by lashkar,al qaida type jihadi terrorists.
RE:Jihad in Islam
by zaheen usmani on May 29, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
killing of innocents is not Jihad either it is being done by muslims or hindus,lashker or bajrangi,laden or modi.
All of them are killing innocents it is strickly prohibited in Islam and hiduism
In Islam Jihad means fight against false and untruth,like Hinduism when Lord Krishna favoured Arjun and save truth, unfortunatily western media has defame jihad and they declare jihad means killing of innocents.Killing of innocents in Islam is not allowed and stricky prohibited.
Javed Shabnam Teesta Harsh Mander are also doing Jihad against the Modi false and it is the true Jihad which is permitted in Islam to prevail justice and peace.
and dear Harsh,I am sure by the efforts of these people we shall be again able to sing sare jahan se accha Hindustan hamare.
why Javed and his gang of Tista,Shabana did not think of filing PIL when a person was killed in an "encounter" just after the Varanasi blast in U.P. , because if Javed has done it, it has gone against the Mulayam Singh government the champion of muslim secularism !!!!!!! Similarly after Mau riot Shabana kept mum though she hails from Azmagarh and few portion of it falls in Mau constituency even then Shabana kept mum and thier gang is prefering Modi's Gujrat rather than Mukhtaar Ansari's Mau where Mukhtaar was named for Mau riots.
It is a joke to say someone will become more patriotic by singing bande mataram. I for one do not understand what is the meaning of this word Bande Mataram or the contents. One should also be given translation of this song many have been singing it without knowing the meaning of it. I thought this song was in Assami or orissa language all along ... it did not sound like Hindi . Someone recently told me it is in Bangla language.
The sympathisers of RSS seems to be trying to divert the attention from the real issue. It is Gujarat government that has agreed that there was fake encounter. Still, people chant long live Modi..Just by saying Bande Mataram or Bharat mata ki jai.. one cannot become a patriot. One must show solidarity with the jawans sweating out at the borders. But in the name of containing terrorism, one cannot start firing who are not in the good books. This is what has happened at Gujarat.
.. Any day. While I am not too much of a fan of Muslims I find them mostly well behaved and decent in Mumbai. It is these Gatis who are difficult to manage
RE:Muslims are any time better than goons like Thakery and his Gatis
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
I agree with you, Mr.Anand. Terrorism has no religion.
RE:Why nobody is answering to my question? Where are the ^patriots^ gone?
by Anand Krish on May 29, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
First tell me what language is Bande matarm and secondly the meaning of it.
RE:Why nobody is answering to my question? Where are the ^patriots^ gone?
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
I don't understand what both of you are trying to win over!!! Mr.Suresh Singh's language is horrible. If this is called patriotism, I prefer to be anti-national. The fight is not between Hinduism and Islam. If the complaint of fake encounter is true, the culprits are to be punished. People like Suresh Singh trying to corner Javed Akhtar. Why don't you target Prashant Bhushan who is the mastermind of this human rights group.
RE:RE:Why nobody is answering to my question? Where are the ^patriots^ gone?
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
Hello Dajjal Mohammad, These people will try to provoke you ojly to get the issue diverted. All the Sardarjis were under scanner before 10 to 15 years. In Sri Lanka, the majority sinhalese says all Tamilians are terrorists(They are Hindus too!!!!). Here we are trying to paint all Muslims as terrorists. It is time we unite against these tendencies only to save the country. Ganesh
