Tell me one thing what were the Human Rights doing when innocent Hindus get killed (Godhra Train Carnage). Is it now a thumb rule that if you are talking of Hindu Rights you are a fundamentalist and if you talk of minority only then you are secular. Who the hell is Javed Akthar to give a verdict of Innocence to Sameer Khan it is for the Supereme Court to decide that !!! It is just becoming that wherever Muslims are minority they want Minority Rights and wherever they are in Majority they use Majority Might!!!
RE:Fake Encounter
by ravula reddy on May 29, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Akram, Godhra was not treated as communal riots, this is the report given by a commission which was put by Central government, Reports of commission says that Godhra killing was done intentionally and this can%u2019t be treated as riots and hence no punishment for the culprits. When Godhra killing is not treated as riots then how come post Godhra become riots and how come there should be punishment for post Godhra.
RE:Fake Encounter
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
post godhra was the punishment for the wrong doing. No simpathy for the criminals.
RE:Fake Encounter
by Mike Jordan on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Why was post godhra rioters( majority were hindus, who belonged to RSS,VHP) not punished???
Why is it that only minorities are punished in this country!!! Whatever little justice a minority gets is only because of secularists.
As long as we secularists are alive, we will fight for justice and equality for all.
RE:Fake Encounter
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
Oh you go and fight and die every hand that touches a hindu will be cut and the hands that feed the serpants also will be cut
RE:Fake Encounter
by Mike Jordan on May 29, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Sreekanth, I can understand your anger, but why do you think that minorities should be denied their rights in India.
Whats so wrong in asking for equal rights for minorities??? I believe in equal rights for everyone,,, do you believe in our constitution or not??? do you faith in our legal system or not???
May Javed Akthar also become fundamentalist cum terrorist & supporting them.Anyway the mindset of all Muslims are same whether they are educated or not...Their first intention was to hate India & then other religions.Why these people are not pointing Bihar & UP which are far away in crime than any other state.I think everybody Mumbaikars will know how the GOONDAAS/crimes come down in Mumbai.Whether all criminals are died in true encounter?or everybody was produced to court?or everybody sentenced? How the pickpocket come down in local trains.As a Mumbaikars,Javed Akthar know all these things....Everybody now come to know that the all accused in 1993 mumbai blasts are Muslims except few who indirectly supported.Though lot of Hindu DONS are activating in India,they are not doing any anti-India activity..Mind these things before showing any mercy towards terrorists..It is easy to control outside terrorism but difficult to control internal terrorists like Javed...I m wondering how he written songs for films like Border,Sarfarosh,refugee,etc...
RE:Real terrorists
by Aarif syed on May 29, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
By supporting a culprit like Modi you do not become fundamentalist and by supporting innocent persons Mr Javed becomes a Fundamentalist .. Funny isn't it ..
RE:Real terrorists
by Bhavik Panchmatia on May 29, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink | Hide message
Oh so now you will decide that Modi is culprit... Oh i see again a Muslim taking side of fellow traitor.
RE:Real terrorists
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
Mr. Aarif Syed, we (hindus) are not interested in fudamentalism. The world knows who is the thugs and fundamentalits. Day-by-day you people are becoming alien societies. Now world is not afraid of any out-space objects rather it is afraid of in-space object ISLAMIC TERRORISTS
RE:RE:Real terrorists
by pattilikattil prabhakaran valsan on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
How aktar is innocent? What about keeping the witness of best bakery case in confinement in his residence and compelling her to amke false allegations against Modi and Hindu organisations. There is no problem in Mr. Aktar supporting the criminals and anti social elements as many scroundrals are doing. But using the name of Human rights and NGOs is not needed. Everybody knows that Mr. Aktar is a Muslim fundamentalist.
RE:Real terrorists
by shamim iliyas khan on May 29, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
who are you what is your identity if you have guts than come openly, I will sue case against you late the judiciary decied who is right or wrong
RE:RE:Real terrorists
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
First put your details and later ask others. Do you have that guts shamim. if you people have that guts you wont attack innocents civilians in Swami narayan temple, Sankat Mochan Hanuman and elsewhere in the world.
RE:Real terrorists
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
shamim and collegues always attack people from behind only, cowards, they put time bombs and run aways..creatures
RE:Real terrorists
by pattilikattil prabhakaran valsan on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
Shamim, on what basis you are threatening? This is the basic mentality of these rascals. If anybody is saying the truth, they will eliminate them by force and since now it is becoming difficault because of RSS and people like modi, they are approaching courts. When court passes orders against them, they will not follow that they states they are Muslims and need seperate law. This will not succeed for long.
RE:Real terrorists
by Jimmy Kewalramani on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
Its great newz that you guys also believe in judicaiary and Law.
Or do you only believe in it when you are the Victims.
And as far as coming out in the Open is concerned thats something the terrorists never have the guts to do so. They can only hide and kill innocent people they don't have the guts to come out in an open War.
Whenever they have tried they know the consequences.
RE:RE:Real terrorists
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Dear Shamim, the comments made by the people are based on their views only. Please check your blood-pressure before entering into making/replying or reading comments, because these columns are for those who are mentally balanced and whose blood-pressure is normal. So take it easy.
Please be aware that the terrorists have floated a number of psuedo secular/human rights organizations to cover up their activities and to reduce the legal actions against their activities.
First of all the terrorists are not humans since they kill innocents and they have no human rights. The latest trend is to put blame on every killing of a terrorists as fake encounter and white wash the terrorists. There should be a thorough enquiry to be done on people who cry for these animals and can find out they were funded by these creatures only.
In the name of minority or political vote banks we can not compromise the national security, there should be law brought out to kill the terrorists on spot.
The recent fake encounter issue in gujarat, no one denies the fact that sohrabuddin was a terrorist, but crying that he been killed fakely. What these antinationals wanted was to arrest him put him in jail and feed with the tax payers money and one day a plane willbe hijacked and can relese these criminals. isolate these celbrities or polititcians who fight for the terrorists
RE:RE:Allah is there to Protect All Muslims
by ravula reddy on May 29, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
Well Said. Terrorism all over the world invovled Muslim on the name of Jihad.
RE:RE:Allah is there to Protect All Muslims
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Dear Zakir, Hindus are proud that they are at least literate enough to read Vedas. But I am very sorry about you and your group, what you will do for reading.
RE:Allah is there to Protect All Muslims
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
Very sure. Terrorists are animals, which ever religion they belong to. They need to be killed on spot. Thats why the terrorists are being killed by Allah by some menas in Afganistan/iraq ir philastein. allah save good muslims and kill all terrorists muslims
RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by Joyee Funee on May 29, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Actually Sonia Gandi and entire Congress is the biggest terrorist
Who divided India by Minority Appeasement and brought India to this Juncture
Even if u Kill them thounands times thier crime will never be justified
RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by ARIF HINGORA on May 29, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
you idiot joyee' in what way sonia and congress is related to fake encounters. take about narendra and guj police who are suposed to uphold the law are exploiting it against the minorities, shame to fight with the weak.
RE:RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on May 29, 2007 10:18 AM Permalink
Actually not congress but Hinduism is the biggest terrorist.. who divide people in cast system and brought hinduism to this juncture.. Even if u kill them thousands times their crime will never be justified.
RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:18 AM Permalink
the tens of thousands of Hindus killed in kashmir, no one seen any one talking about terrorism and hanging. when Hindus killed at godhra no one talked about hanging. When indian parliment attached people talking about mercy to the criminal from capital punishment. Long live Indian (psuedo) democracy
RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by Mike Jordan on May 29, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Only secular people can protect Indian democracy. BJP, RSS thugs are dying to kill indian democracy and constitution. They will make India as Hindu Taliban State.
RE:Narendra Modi is the biggest terrorist !
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
i do not whether you are bhardwaj or not but why are u dragging Thakrey saheb into this matter.
Kindly think if any of these militant created a seen as of mumbai blast or somrthing of that kind ,then u would have got gathered with candles.Remember soilders of our country comes first let them do safe for them and the nation don't go for cheap politices.
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by Aarif syed on May 29, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
Why don't you kindly think if some inocent person one of yours was killed in the name of terrorist
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
thousands of my brothers are getting killed in kashmir by terrorists . We are happy every time a terrorist is killed
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by vishal on May 29, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
who r u to decide weather he is inocent or not? let it be done by court and than argue ok. it is not necessary tht any time a muslim killed and u ppl come out with the name of human rights, secular, minority etc...1st think like an indian and thn like a muslim...
RE:RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by Mike Jordan on May 29, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
Vishal, thats what these people are saying, who are the police to decide who is innocent and who is not. As you said, its for the courts to decide. By bumping off these people, the policemen who are supposed to protect the law have infact broken the law.
They are also criminal and they should be punished(and let them be punished by the court).
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by SSCD on May 29, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
yeh!! and what about innocent people killed by terrorists. Let's count them and then talk. Let's also count the lives saved by killing a terrorist and then talk about it.
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by Mike Jordan on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
The guys who were encountered were not terrorists!!! So Gujarat police has done a criminal thing and they should be punished.
RE:Lyricist Javed Akhtar and others
by mumtaz syed on May 29, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
Sir, I am surprised by your comments.We are not against the killing of real culprit but killing in the name of terrorist is not acceptable.As you are mentioning them milltnat but report and investigation never proved that they were millitant.So please try to think in posative manner for the sake of country.
The encounter took place in the year 2002. Where was Mr Javed till date, as 5 years have been passed after the incident? Why this kind of issues were not raised immediately after that? Why the issue is raised when the election is nearing? If you assess all these points, even anybody can reach to a conclusion that Congress is behind this. I warn all congressmen to desist from such kind of practice. Even thousands of Javed cannot do any harm to the reputation of our Hon'ble Chief Minister Shri Narendra Modi. The more you try to defame him, the more famous he will become.
Shri Modi has a long way to go and he will be the future Prime Minister of India. Even all terrorists from the whole world try together, they cannot do any harm to our great Leader. Long life Shri Modiji.
Congress, your time is over and you can see your own humiliation shortly.
RE:RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
Mr. Khan this applies damn good to Islam and its follower thugs very nice. Gandhi said "Before saying it to others, start it from you".
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
Dear Aarifbhai, It will not be night if you close your eyes - but only you cannot see anything. So open your eyes and see the fact, assess the things and evaluate the incidents. Then you can come out of the darkness of supporting terrorism. So hurry up otherwise you will be too late.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by ashok singh on May 29, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
We have our Hanumans, Ram, Laxman, Arjun, Bhim, too. And if That is less we have our kali, Durga and Shiva too. So be carefull.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by YamChuk on May 29, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
Simple Modi , GOD is just a illusion in your mind . Come out of illusions , you will the world clearly .
RE:RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
God will be with good people not with those who play politics, think narrow-minded.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
Even if one agree with your view that Mr.Javed doing this since the election is nearing, how come the Modi became a great leader? Except Modi and you, all others are terrorists.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by sir on May 29, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT-JAVED LOOKS TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH FELLOW HAVING NO SENSE OF CITIZEN-INDIA FACE-WE FEEL SORRY FOR THIS FELLOW-WHO AMASSED MONEY IN THE COUNTRY-WHY BECAUSE--SO MANY ENCOUNTERS ARE TAKING PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY INALL STATES-ALMOST-ANDHRA, BIHAR, ASSAM, -AT SOMANY PLACCES EVEN IN CHENNAI RECENT PAST--DOES THIS STUPID FELLOW SLEEPING ON ENCOUNTER SUBJECT MATTER-OTHER FAMILIES ARE NOT THIS STUPID FAMILY-LET US TELL-JAVED AND PARTY TO STOP NONSENCE BE CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY TO THE TRUTHFULNATURE-A CRIMINAL IS CRIMINAL-CONG. GOVT INANDHRA-KILLED THIUSANDS IN ENCOUNTER-WHAT THIS MAN IS DOING-LET US STOP THIS NONSENSE
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by ramachandran nair on May 29, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
Shri Modi becoming PM in future is just a wishful thinking of yours. May god bless you and Modi in the process.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Da naire You think your pinarayi or achuthandandan or ummanchandy become PM........mandan
RE:RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
Dear Ram, your comment seems as if you are the direct representative of God. If yes, I would like to take a sub-agency from you.
RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Zakir Hossain on May 29, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
Dude, there are only 3 communities in the rce for world power... 1.5 billion Christians (1) 1.3 billion Muslims (2) and Jews..Hindus not in the Race dude..even Jew dosent like hindus. If Mr.Modi become a Prime Minister.. well, in that 5 years India is divided into 7 division. Remember U.S Government what they have done in Bosnia.. where muslims were minority and suppressed and killed by majority christians.. they came into help for the muslims and divided their one country into 3 countries. So, in this case.. they are keen to come to India and Divide us. Want a Division of India or unification.. Depend upon the hardliners hindus.
RE:RE:Gujarat Encounter
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
I know Zakkri you want india to be divided india again. Your fore fathers have done that, and now dont even dream of it
What the hell is going on? On one hand we solicit 'Wiping Out Terrorism For Peace' & on the other, start shouting about 'Humanitarian Values' when any steps are taken to this effect. How do these Self -Styled Bullshit Human Rights Messiahs figure to wipe out Terrorism then? By making the Terrorists sit on their lap & Sweet - Talking to them? Just one example - Whenever any body parts develop tumours or extremities get infected thereby endangering the whole body, such parts/ extremities are amputated & not left to rot the whole body. Terrorism can be defined to this effect.
RE:Encounters
by Paras Desai on May 29, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
Just take into account killing of thousands of Kashmiri pandits who had been butchered and slaughtered in their homeland. And History (Non Communist) does show us the invasion of this Great land and it's culture by Jehadi Islam..
RE:Encounters
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
Thakur Sab, don't forget that India is a secular country. You have to protect Hindu, Christian, Sikh, Parsi, Jain, Shree Buddha and also Terrorists. So don't kill anyone. Support everyone, that is the policy of our CONGRESS party, who is just hanging themselves near the Sabarmati River.
RE:Encounters
by sir on May 29, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT-JAVED LOOKS TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH FELLOW HAVING NO SENSE OF CITIZEN-INDIA FACE-WE FEEL SORRY FOR THIS FELLOW-WHO AMASSED MONEY IN THE COUNTRY-WHY BECAUSE--SO MANY ENCOUNTERS ARE TAKING PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY INALL STATES-ALMOST-ANDHRA, BIHAR, ASSAM, -AT SOMANY PLACCES EVEN IN CHENNAI RECENT PAST--DOES THIS STUPID FELLOW SLEEPING ON ENCOUNTER SUBJECT MATTER-OTHER FAMILIES ARE NOT THIS STUPID FAMILY-LET US TELL-JAVED AND PARTY TO STOP NONSENCE BE CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY TO THE TRUTHFULNATURE-A CRIMINAL IS CRIMINAL-CONG. GOVT INANDHRA-KILLED THIUSANDS IN ENCOUNTER-WHAT THIS MAN IS DOING-LET US STOP THIS NONSENSE
