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Terroist have different constitution and it is as follows
by Joyee Funee on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Terroist have different constitution and it is as follows :
1. Kill every Innocent (particulary Hindu's)by blasting them

2. As Indian constitution and Judiciary will take its sweet time to convict, by that time our citizens (terroist) will die thier natural death SO you have to do maximum loss to India and take maximum advantage of its Constituion

PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE ADAPTED OUR CONSTITUTION FROM BRITISH

IT IS THE SAME BRITISH GOVT WHICH ENCOUNTERED A BRAZILIAN JUST SUSPECTING HIS BEHAVIOUR DURING LONDON TUBE TRAIN BLAST

USA HAS AMENDED ITS CONSTITUTION AFTER 911 AND GIVEN FULL RIGHTS TO POLICE TO QUESTION, DETAIN ALSO TAPE ANY ONE ON BASE OF SUSPICTION OF TERRORISM


WHEN 911 HAPPENED ENTIRE USA STOOD WITH BUSH ANAD GOT AGAINST ISLAMIC MILITANCY AND APPROVED WAR ON AFGHAN EVEN

WHEN GODHRA HAPPENED, THERE WERE NO PLITICAL TAKERS TO CONEMN IT STRONLGLY AND TO ASK ACTION AGAINST IT RATHER THEY WENT AGAINST SHRI MODI


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RE:Terroist have different constitution and it is as follows
by Mak C on May 29, 2007 03:09 PM  Permalink
Whilst terrorism requires to be erradicated, it has to be done intelligently. Terrorists require to be exposed preferrably by the muslims for clearing the general perception that all muslims are terrorists. By blattant killing of muslims without rhyme or reason, terrorism can only increase. If you lose an innocent kin leading an ordinary socially accepted life, what is expected to be your reaction? George Bush had initial full support due to the false impression created of weapons of mass destruction(WOMD) being in existance. Saddam was a reality and got traced, WOMD was not and thus there are Americans, specially those who have lost their kin, who are opposing the policies of Bush. Justifying Godhra, or removal of Kashmiri pundits, or Afghani Taalibisation is like justifying Hitler in sending millions of Jews to the gas chambers. Natural justice catches up and the perpetrators get ultimately punished. Can we start behaving like a civilised and responsible society or will history refer to us as the foolish who could'nt learn from it. All death and destruction have an economical fallout. The country's progress is hampered. Congratulate and thank the police and the courts when terrorists are punished expeditiously but question them when law is flouted by them. This is necessary for democracy to survive. If the military and police which is equipped with weapons out of public money is not kept in check by laws, we are heading for autocracy, the Pakistan way.

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RE:Terroist have different constitution and it is as follows
by Utpal Patel on May 29, 2007 10:59 AM  Permalink
Add something to it.......

They can also KILL their OWN PEOPLE (MUSLIMS) to misguide them...........

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Javed Akhtar's PIL
by Hit Right on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Tomorrow, this same Akhar would say that the terrorist attempt to finish off Advani in Coimbattore was also a "fake"!
Akhtar Saab,how is it that even when there were so many "encounters" on your doorstep in Mumbai,-both real and "fake"-you have never charged the CM of Mumbai? Your anger is all because,despite your best efforts by you and your "secular" friends in the media like NDTV, you could not defeat Modi!
Now, coming to Sohrabuddin, please refer to Zee News expose recently when they proved that this Sohrabuddin Sheikh and Sohrab of Dawood gun running fame are one and the same and that,Sohrab after coming out of the Jail for gun-running becomes Sohrabuddin Sheikh and does business as extortionist!Zee had also shown pictures of his funeral procession in his village in MP where the entire village gathered shouting Anti-India and Pro-Pakistan slogans and a huge police force had to be called to control the village-mob and maintain peace! Whether fake or otherwise,it is for the court to decide and not those self appointed "activists" for whom so called activism is more dearer than nationalism! If one is busy earning a "name" for caricaturing Hindu Gods and Goddesses in an ugliest and abhorrent manner,(remember Sita doing ..... Durga doing......Saraswati doing.... Parvati doing.......and at the same time Danish Cartoon and aftermath?)others are busy trying to erase the memory of "Godhra Roast" by targetting Modi and his and other BJP state Govt.'s. Nationalism Vs Terrorism?

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RE:Javed Akhtar's PIL
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink

Indian Supreme Court treats every citizen as Equal, unlike Jihadis, activists and Psuedos.

I am afraid they will ask Javed Akhtar:

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN WHEN 100s of encounters took place in rest of India?

Where have you been when 1000s of people became victim in Kashmir?

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RE:Javed Akhtar's PIL
by B N on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink
I totally agree with what you said my freind. A true nationalist will agree on these lines. Others follow NDTV and people like Javed Akhtar. I think someone should file a case against Javed Akhtar for supporting terrorist and anti-nationals. It is time to do so.

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RE:Javed Akhtar's PIL
by abhijit bhoite on May 29, 2007 10:55 AM  Permalink
I completely agree with you....Javed Akthar is an ISI agent...if he is really what he potrays to be than where was he when 2 policemen were burnt aliv in Bhivandi...i never hear him filing an FIR against Mulayam singh whwn his sponsored goons were killing Hindus in Mau....such parasites shouldnot be allowed to make ill use of our judiciary.

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RE:lets be bold
by indianpatriot on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink
why cant we kill sonia manio and her sibling rahul gazhi khan india will be richer?

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RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 10:50 AM  Permalink
sonia and rahul do not burn trains in broad daylight and then blame it on muslims. this kind of a masterly act can be done only by an expert like modi !

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RE:lets be bold
by indianpatriot on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink
yes mushtaq ahmed...modi does not divide a 10,000 year old country into 3 pieces and then asks the people who divided the country to stay back so that they can again divide into 5 more pieces......

long live modi

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RE:RE:lets be bold
by ulaganathan ganesan on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM  Permalink
MR. Mustak who have burnt the trains in day light at gujarat none other than bloody muslims with the help sonio and rahul. if keep these bloody family from india my country will be richer

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RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink
may lord ganesha help you reform ganesan ! mera bharat mahaan !

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RE:lets be bold
by SAM KIM on May 29, 2007 10:49 AM  Permalink

we Indian's will be rich the day u muslim's reform. as long as u get carried away by pseudo secularists cry for thier own benifit, India will not progress.

It is our bad luck we have piggy back u people.

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RE:lets be bold
by B N on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM  Permalink
Lets be bold. Why can't we file a case against Javed Akhtar for supporting terrorist and anti-nationals. There are millions of Modi's in this country. Hindustan Zindabad..Pakistan Murdabad

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RE:lets be bold
by amit singh on May 29, 2007 10:50 AM  Permalink
n wat about Lalu, Mulla Mulayam, Mayawati, Jaylalitha, if u r really patriot then why u muslims r always against only Modi not these politicians

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RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink
Lalu, Mulayam, Mayawati, Jayalalitha do not burn trains in briad daylight and then blame it on muslims !

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RE:lets be bold
by indianpatriot on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink
yes mushtaq ahmed...modi does not divide a 10,000 year old country into 3 pieces and then asks the people who divided the country to stay back so that they can again divide into 5 more pieces......

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RE:lets be bold
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink

And before that Police will finish you off in an encounter.

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RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM  Permalink
by killing me the truth cannot be hidden !
mera bharath mahaan !

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RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 10:56 AM  Permalink
by killing me the truth cannot be hidden !
mera bharath mahaan !

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RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by ulaganathan ganesan on May 29, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink
you bloody muslim who want to seperate this country cannot be a bharat mahan. Who have attacked parliament? who attacked masjid in hyderabad recently? who blasted bomb in bombay? who have killed so many people in bombay 1992? you bloody idiotic muslims made my country so poor but you have become richer. as you said by killing modi you canot hide the cheap killings made by you and your bloody politicians like sonia. first of all all muslims who have commited such a idiotc things to be hanged.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 11:09 AM  Permalink
its simple to blame a Muslim for anything and everything. Modi just uses his own people
( after circumcision ) to blow up fellow indians . he then puts some verses from the quran in their pocket and says a muslim terrorist blew up so and so place. simple and neat. may god us from this demon. mera bharat mahaan !

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RE:lets be bold
by Sam on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink
someone, trace mushtaq ahamed IP and send it to CIA, FBI, RAW, Mossad etc.

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RE:lets be bold
by ulaganathan ganesan on May 29, 2007 10:54 AM  Permalink
you bloody muslim! goto pakistan and say this there. even in pak the bloody indians are treated as secondary animals. but you idiot are talking in this way. then we have to hang all muslims including you and salman kurshid, barooq abdullahetc

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RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 10:59 AM  Permalink
may be desh dhrogi modi is helping you write your mail ! mera bharath mahaan !

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RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by ulaganathan ganesan on May 29, 2007 11:09 AM  Permalink
that is you bloody muslims are being killed wverywhere in the world. iraq,iran,israel,kenya,uganda,philliphines, everywhere muslims are the target why because of your militancy. what happened in iraq muslim hang another muslim? afghanistan west lead forces killing thousands of muslims. one day the entire world will become against the muslims and ki the entire muslims except those who licked the ass of bloody americans. Mr. Mustaq why not you people are not united to fight against your enemies. bcos you yourself is enemy. kirdhus are killin shias, hamas are kiling its rival muslims in israel, in kenya african muslims are killed by arab muslims, in pak mujahirs( the bloody indian muslims- this is what pak gave name to indian muslims there in pak) are killed mutahhirs? first you ask you people to be united then you come and ask india whom to be hanged?

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RE:RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 11:19 AM  Permalink
the world over international terrorist Bush is dividing muslims, in india national terrorist Modi is dividing indians. mera bharath mahaan !

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RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by indianpatriot on May 29, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink
who is desh drohi....can you sing vanday mataram?...NO.....

can you have uniform civil code..NO

can you follow consitution and not your crook book......NO

IN 1987 YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS WERE BURNING CONSTITUTION IN SHAH BHANO CASE.....WHY?

WHY ARE YOU BURNING CONSTITUTION?

WHO IS DESH DROHI?
TELL ME WHO IS DESH DROHI MUSHTAQ AHMED..

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RE:RE:RE:RE:lets be bold
by mushtaq ahamed on May 29, 2007 11:14 AM  Permalink
vandeeeeeeeeeeee mataram ! there i have sung it for you ! uniform civil code ? why not a uniform civil god ? will you accept that ? don't mix religion with patriotism. we muslims are more patriotic than you can ever be. mera bharat mahaan ! its men like modi who destroy humanity and then blame it on we muslims. and you poor guys believe him.god save you !

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RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Indian on May 29, 2007 11:18 AM  Permalink
Can you tell me which Quran you refered/read. There are thousand false quran availabel in the market produced by Jews. I bet you got one of them. Islam means -peace. Islam never preaces intolerance on other religion there are many examples led by Prophet Mohammed.Threre was jews(neighbour) woman who used to dump the garbage on him daily whenever he goes out of home. But He never curse her, but always used to pray Got to give her nice nighbour's etiqutes. I request you not read false Quran.

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RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Silent Sea on May 29, 2007 10:53 AM  Permalink
This is false and baseless. Please do not quote rubbish to create enimoisty. Try to promote peace if you can. Quote something which leads to harmony. PEACE...

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RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink
how do u know its baseless it is written in quran

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RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Jawad Syed on May 29, 2007 10:58 AM  Permalink
You are probably brain-washed about the verse that calls for the Muslims to kill the Infidels. Right? Anyways, The Quran itself makes everything clear:

Anyone can be misleaded by just quoting a part of the entire sentence...
"They killed him" draws sympathy for the killed person.

But the entire sentence proves us wrong
" They killed him because he had murdered thousands"

Now that justifies the part...
Similarly read the entire part. And if you do, you will find that the verse refers to the battlefield. In a war, if you find the 'infidels' who had tortured you and who want to kill you, kill them.

Who were this 'infidels'.
If you read the entire context, you get to know that, these are those pagan barbaric people who had tortured muslims, looted their property, didnt even leave the old and handicapped tortured them too. And it was during this time, that ALLAH had commanded to be steadfast. These years passed with full persecution and not even a single muslim replied back with a Slap!

So, when they migrated to Madinah, it was revealed to them "fight for your rights" "If these pagans come to kill you, you can kill them too"
As plain as that... Is this inhuman??? Any war general will say this.

But Almighty GOD, ALLAH wants more than this. What is it?

The verse continues, "But if the infidels want peace and want to surrender, ESCORT them to a place of safety"

The maximum a very merciful general will do is to say "Let them GO"

But here Islam says, "ES

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RE:RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 29, 2007 11:08 AM  Permalink
Your prophet was the greatest intolerant of all...

He raped women..looted their property..and did abomibnable things against humanity...

I am sure he did it in revenge isint it......

go thru this site....

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/safiyah.htm

This is a true face of ISLAM.....

You tell me why are there problems where "followers" of ISLAM are present......

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RE:RE:RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:26 AM  Permalink
santosh dont go away. its in our neighbourhood. In srilanka there is problem, no muslim involved. there is problem in nepal, no muslim involved. there is problem in tibbet, no muslims involved. there problem in asaam, no muslims involvement. there are problem of miosts in more than 6 states, no muslim involvement. its most easy to blame others specialy on minorities.

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RE:RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink

Fighting is prescribed for you, and [some of] you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not (Sura 2:16).

Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war (Sura 9:5).

Fight in the way of Allah . . . and slay them [the unbelievers] wherever you find them and drive them out . . . and fight them until . . . religion is for Allah (Sura 2:190-193).

Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, %u201CThe sword is the key of heaven and hell. A drop of blood in the cause of Allah %u2014 a night spent in arms [war] %u2014 is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer. Whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment, his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.%u201D12

To somehow defend their actions that are rooted in the Quran and the Hadith, Muslims counter by pointing to the intolerance and violence that have characterized both Jews and Christians , they point to the Christian Crusades in the Middle Ages. Using these examples, they accuse Jews and Christians of being hypocritical in attacking the in?tolerance and violence of Islam today.



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RE:RE:RE:Militant nature of ISLAM
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 29, 2007 10:50 AM  Permalink
So they are reaping what they are sowing.....

where ever they go they create problems...



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Latest news
by Sam on May 29, 2007 10:42 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Javed is broke these days. He was offered $150,000 by Congress and Dawood co. to come up with this story.

I have lost all respect for Javed Akhtar and swear will never watch any movie that has his contribution. I never expected this man to stoop so low and take sides with terrorists.

Shame on you Javed!!!!! tho tho!!

Modi: Keep up the good work.

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RE:Latest news
by Reji A on May 29, 2007 10:44 AM  Permalink
Modi will go down in history as parallel to Hitler.

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RE:Latest news
by Sam on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink
Your Pak will balkanize before that!!!!


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RE:Latest news
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink
we need hitlers to correct this country and ruin the terrorists. Long live Modi'

We dont want leaders where even their wives doubt are men
we need a Modi in every district of this country

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RE:Latest news
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink

Whose history? History written by Islamists and Jihadis?

hehe..

certificates from Jihadis are actually a big achievement:)-

Hindus are getting united and no more weak hearted that if accused as "hitler' they will hide.

Rather Islamists tell us HOW MORE HINDUS WERE KILLED, DRIVEN OUT FROM PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, Kashmir.

IF ISLAMISTS, PSUEDOS ARE NOT WORRIED, WHY WOULD HINDUS BE WORRIED?

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RE:Latest news
by Bhaskar kurien on May 29, 2007 10:47 AM  Permalink
Sam,
Its such a relief that there are only a few like you.Even God would have been helpless if there were like you in our country.

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RE:Latest news
by Roje Jose on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink
Your post is ridiculous. Not every muslim in our country a terorist. Why everyone in this discussion board becoming radicilised in their thinking?

If every Muslim in our country were radicilised in their thinking we would have long become a nation like Pakistan with all the problems facing by them replicated here. So there are majority of good Muslims living here also. And they are human beings. Human beings having flesh and blood and families. If the state starts killing suspects inorder to instigate their filthy propoganda, then that will be the end of everything.

Someone has to raise a voice against every attrocity. Not only this. Every human rights violations, murders, acts of terrorism irrespective of religion, caste and creed...

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There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Prof. R K Gupta on May 29, 2007 10:39 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Let people of India know the facts. Constitution of India does not allow any one to kill other. Even army cannot kill any body unless war is decalred. Army also does not kill anyone if the person raises hands or surrenders and Prisoners of war have to be given due human treatment as per Geneva convention.
There is no provision to kill any one in any law of India including Cr.PC and IPC or Police Act. In fact is serious abuse of power and highly punishable in law.
What these policemen are doing is cold blooded murder in name of self defense(section 95-96 of IPC).They are basically cowards and corrupt. Every one in India knows about it. Not even 1 % people will talk good of Indian police officers. The IPS are rampantly corrupt and arrogant as if they have obliged the nation by passing one UPSC examination. The uniform and powers conferred under Cr PC and other laws are grossly abused by them.Their detective intelligence(that also includes ,our Indian Army) is almost ZERO. They kill people as they don't want to face fire and threat of life to face suspects(repeat-suspects only)or they kill for money or under political patronage.There is hardly difference today between a khaki clad and non khaki clad goondas. The Police officers who kill others under whatever pretext should be quickly prosecuted in special courts and all complaints against policemen including bribe and misbehaviour be taken seriously. So no law is required. Only serious punishment to few will take care of this

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by brajesh anand on May 29, 2007 10:52 AM  Permalink
now i understand, what prof.gupta means, he wants pepole should humiliate him and he feels good in self humiliation,we should be pity on him, he is psychic ill case,we should pray for his recovery.speedy recovery prof.gupta

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RE:RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by patel ravjibhai on May 29, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
Get Well Soon.....!!!


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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Joyee Funee on May 29, 2007 10:50 AM  Permalink
Terroist have different constitution and it is as follows :
1. Kill every Innocent (particulary Hindu's)by blasting them

2. As Indian constitution and Judiciary will take its sweet time to convict, by that time our citizens (terroist) will die thier natural death SO you have to do maximum loss to India and take maximum advantage of its Constituion

DEAR PROF. GUPTA
PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE ADAPTED OUR CONSTITUTION FROM BRITISH

IT IS THE SAME BRITISH GOVT WHICH ENCOUNTERED A BRAZILIAN JUST SUSPECTING HIS BEHAVIOUR DURING LONDON TUBE TRAIN BLAST

USA HAS AMENDED ITS CONSTITUTION AFTER 911 AND GIVEN FULL RIGHTS TO POLICE TO QUESTION, DETAIN ALSO TAPE ANY ONE ON BASE OF SUSPICTION OF TERRORISM




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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:40 AM  Permalink

What did COnstitution do to protect Kashmiri Pandits?

What is constitution doing to protect temples, people from terrorism?

Didn't supreme court upheld POTA?

What does constitution say on Uniform Civil Code?

hehe..you cannot pick and choose. You cannot demand 'secular' constitution, as well as Haaj Subsidy, Sharia Law?

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RE:RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:41 AM  Permalink

and now 'muslim' reservation:)-

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Bhaskar kurien on May 29, 2007 10:50 AM  Permalink
Bhaskar Chattopadhay,
I don't know how old you are.But you are one of those typical misguided ,brainwashed,naive kids

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:55 AM  Permalink

Kurien: the last thing I need is certifcate from you!

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink
Why muslims wanted personal law only on civil laws.just to marry 7 times.. If they are so interested in sariat laws why dont they accept sariat criminal law also?.

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by balamurugan swaminathan on May 29, 2007 11:07 AM  Permalink
Stop fuelling tensions by dividing the country. Divide and rule is followed by British and now by BJP. Our country is divided in all aspectes by religion, upper castes, lower castes, states, language and many more. Stop thinking like this and think contructively, common man we are living in 21st century not in 18th. Man how come this country will become a super power with this divisions, think like an educated man. Do not spoil people by weeding poison in their heart.

So you are saying all Muslims living in this country are bad, I can prove you that 99 % are good and law abiding citizens. Hindus and muslims are living happily. Clean you mind and heart.

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RE:RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by patel ravjibhai on May 29, 2007 11:25 AM  Permalink
i m living in US...i have lot of Muslim freinds...mostly Pakistani, and believe me they all are much better than my guju freinds..

if u said that 99% muslims are good why we r talking about that 1% bad guys....
So, tell me why we hate pakistanis and called them anti-indian, if most of them r damned good !!! ONLY bcoz some of them r very bad...!!

So, Mr. Bala Swami , we r talking about that bad guys among them....if they accept it, its good otherwise this CANCER will become uncured...

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Mak C on May 29, 2007 02:21 PM  Permalink
Sane words....no takers. Sad, but nevertheless needed to keep a society in check. Evil prevails if the good remain silent.

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by patel ravjibhai on May 29, 2007 11:09 AM  Permalink
as indian citizen ,we all respects our law/constitution , but how it will effective against persons who do not beleive in it ?

We called person a terrorist , who do not beleive in any constitutions / laws.

Afzal Guru , a prime accused of Parliament Attack do not believe in indian constitution , then why he is not 'hang' till date and wait for president's permission in the name of constitution provisions for forgiveness..
if he has no connections w/ pakistan, why Musharaf/Pak. Govt. talks about some deals to free him...

Our Army/J&K police arrested LeT leader after long hide-n-seek game and jalied him ....what we got after that ?? IA plane hijjacked to Kandhaar and we freed him along with other terrorists in BIG deal and he is still master-minding terrorist attacks in india more powerfully...

These Human Activists didn't say anything about 'Virappan' Encounter, but they have soft corner for 'Afzal Guru' and others....Why ??? Because they are only...SECULARISTS of this secular nation...

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RE:There is no provision in Constitution to kill anyone,already
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink
If you are really professor then you might be some around 35 years by now. If that is the case then I am pretty much younger to you, but I think you need a lesson from me. A coin has both sides. Same applies here. Sometimes we need to use by-pass rules to avert a worst condition.
Let me know professor from you, if a terrorist kills say a single person can you get back that life. You said right that we do not have right to kill anyone. But what we have to do? If we keep them in jails their men kill do hijackings,kidnaps and will get free from the law in the lack of evidence. So should we leave them?
There is a thin-line that probably you may learn from your life when it happens to you or your family.

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RE:There are Many Hindus on this Messge Board is against Shri Modi ?
by Narinder on May 29, 2007 10:53 AM  Permalink
Dear friend dont give such assertion that Muslims are not involved in castigating SIMI or any crises on Hindus. Have you done polling for it going into house of every muslim in INDIA?

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RE:There are Many Hindus on this Messge Board is against Shri Modi ?
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 10:49 AM  Permalink
The most of these so called hindus are either non-existing one or so-called intellectual. They feel they are demi-gods, look back at them they are rottens

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RE:RE:There are Many Hindus on this Messge Board is against Shri Modi ?
by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:31 AM  Permalink
DEAR BHANDAV KUMAR GET HAPPY AND START CELEBRATION. MANY MUSLIMS WERE KILLED IN NANDIGRAM.

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RE:There are Many Hindus on this Messge Board is against Shri Modi ?
by Silent Sea on May 29, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink
I strongly beleive that justice should be done in all cases irrespective of who the culprit is. The political setup does not have the will to do it as they are concerned with vote bank politics. No rational Muslim would support crime against humanity. The Kashmir pandits should be rehabilitated and wrong doings should be punished. Any organization irrespective of its religious credentials should not be supported and should be banned if it is involved in any activities which promote disharmony between anyone. If justice is rendered to the the victims, no terrorist would be born. Everyone wants to have a life of peace and happiness. Hindus and Muslims like each other and no amount of unnecessary religious rhetoric on this discussion board by member of any community can disturb that. PEACE...

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RE:RE:RE:There are Many Hindus on this Messge Board is against Shri Modi ?
by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
U DONT HAVE ANY MUSLIM FRIEND THAT IS Y U R SAYING SO. I HAVE MANY HINDU FRIENDS AND I LIKE THEM ALL. BUT IM SURE PEOPLE LIKE U NIETHER CAN BE MY FRIEND, NO MATTER THEY R HINDU OR MUSLIM.

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Support Police OR Criminals ???
by patel ravjibhai on May 29, 2007 10:37 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i was in ahmedabad , when this incident was occured...and beleive me, i don't think it was wrong , bcoz
1) person killed had anti-national (supposed to be anti-hindu) activities for a long period.
2) police encounter team had one muslim member, so we can't say that police killed so called terrorist bcoz he was muslim.
3) if police did not encounter him, is anyone from these so called 'secularists'(who called them secular by taking side for only one community and not for all) guarentee about proper court hearing or they would be doing same thing, as they are doing for parliament attacker who do not 'hang' till now after supreem court also gave verdict against him.
3) these activists (secularists) have abilities to get pressurized President Kalaam over Parliament Attacker Terrorist (who said he do not believe in Indian Constitution), but are ready to take everything against Modi and his govt., who has nothing to do with this incident or guj. police(who is not doing as govt. toy 'Kathputalli' as in other states).
5) if we the people do not support police (or their encounters), it will resulted in to Naxalist State (like J&K, AP, Manipur, Assam, CG, Bihar, Jharkhand, etc).
That's why the states with more encounter ratio has minimal naxalist/terrorist fears (like Gujarat, Maharashtra, Delhi, etc)

i m proud to be gujarati, and most importantly proud to be an indian...and i know we all.

thats why don't support anti-nationals or terrorists...

Support Police & Army.

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RE:RE:Support Police OR Criminals ???
by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:00 AM  Permalink
every one know how honest indian police is. Even court has labeled it biggest crminal gang. It becomes honest in eyes of people only when it kill any person from muslim community.

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by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 11:07 AM  Permalink
if IPS is not honest then you bastered might have been erased from india. remember.

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RE:Support Police OR Criminals ???
by Prof R K Gupta-India on May 29, 2007 10:53 AM  Permalink
Dera friend
You are sadly mistaken.Polcie is not court.There is something called justice and trial in all human societies.
In ancient times also kings had proper system of arrest and trial.Atleast the good kings.
Civilised society is what we are living in.First of all who will decide who is criminal? Police themselves? and the Media will decide?Why Americans did not straight away shoot Saddam when found in a bunker?After all many american soldiers were furious at him?What is police? It is just a uniformed civil servnant who have been given certain powers to investigate crimes and produce persons and evidence in court of law.Period!Their second role is to keep law and order and prevent imminent crime.Always attempt has to be made to capture person by immobilising him.Except for God no one can take any life of any human being atleast.You cant equate bad people with good.I think in India even ceratin animals can't be killed.Salmaan
Khan is undegoing trial for just doing that. But Strangely Nawab of Pataudi was let off and his case to kill animals was hushed up.Indian police is most corrupt organisation .No law has or can give them right to kill.They do all this in name of self defense and 'death by chance' in encounter.In fact they blindly start shooting as they are cowards or do this under directions of politicians/mafia, or for money.We must condemn all this. Better close the courts,otherwise.Let police and Media take over.Can you equate terrorist/criminal and State?

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RE:Support Police OR Criminals ???
by Aditya Singh on May 29, 2007 11:05 AM  Permalink
Oh great message. Dear gupta, are you suffering from any ill such as "IDEAL SARCASIM".

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RE:Support Police OR Criminals ???
by pattilikattil prabhakaran valsan on May 29, 2007 11:32 AM  Permalink
Great Mr. Gupta, you cannot compare good people with bad people . Muslims and others being bad peolpe can do anything, but Hindus should not do that because they are good people. When bad people are coming and raping your family members will you resist that or as a good law abiding man go to the police station and wait for the legal action? You mean to say that hindus should not retaliate against the atrocities done against them and silently suffer while others being bad people they will attack?

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by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink
people who r resposible for killing hindus in express they are behind bar under tada. But killers og thousand muslims are roaming free.

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Can we be called civilised?
by Mak C on May 29, 2007 10:34 AM  Permalink 

What's happening to our thought processes? How can we accept a police force which has such inferior crime detection, prosecution abilities that they have to resort to encounters so that they can avoid work and need not function as law provides for in a democracy. Instead of applauding, one should question the process which allows infiltration of the police force by such elements who, instead of refining their abilities resort to shortcuts(I still want to believe that the larger section of police force is free of communalism). We should also question the political system, irrespective of the party in power, which interferes or dictates to the law-enforcers, causing them to behave in this lawless way. Remember the law provides for being innocent until proven guilty(aren't many of our politicians themselves utilising this cover under the law?). You cannot enact an encounter on an innocent, be it a hindu, christian, buddhist or even if it seems fashionable, a muslim. If the law terrorises and targets any community, it will be forced to defend itself even if it has to be outside the strictures of law. Preservation of one's life is a supreme factor which guides all humans alike. It's a shame in a society if one is called upon to defend one's life from law-enforcers even when you are innocent. It is wrong to brand all muslims as terrorists as much as it is wrong to brand all gujratis as communal fanatics. We are at the risk of turning a perfect democratic nation into a Hindu Pakista

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Do not politicise
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 10:34 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Many more skeletons will be tumbling out from Modi's cupboard. It is our moral responsibility of all indian citizens to raise our voice in support of exposing the real culprits. Congress-BJP political tussle need not to come in between. The fake encounter issue is alive for a long time. It has gained momentum since the Geeta Johri's report.

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RE:Do not politicise
by Seshan Iyer on May 29, 2007 11:33 AM  Permalink
Dear Ganesh, if you do not correct your information, next skeleton from somebody's cup board will be of yours.

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RE:Do not politicise
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:37 AM  Permalink

hehe...believe in NDTV report at your own peril:)-

The Hindu had to apologize after publishing a fabicrated report of Johri? Remember that?

Post Godhra is a dead issue. YES, BJP LOST MUSLIM VOTE. BUT OPPOSITION TO BJP DOES NO GOOD TO BJP EITHER.

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RE:Do not politicise
by ganesh subi on May 29, 2007 10:41 AM  Permalink
I am not talking about the newspaper report. It is Geeta Johri who investigated the matter and submitted a report to Supreme Court. Due to that the Modi government also accepted that there was a fake encounter.

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RE:RE:Do not politicise
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 29, 2007 10:38 AM  Permalink

* YES, BJP LOST MUSLIM VOTE. BUT OPPOSITION TO BJP DOES NO GOOD TO muslims EITHER.


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RE:Do not politicise
by Sreekanth Ravindran on May 29, 2007 10:38 AM  Permalink
we need more fake encounters to eliminate terrorists. other wise they will be arrested and put into jail and fed on tax payers money. One day some hijakcing happen and will be released or the bugger will contest election and become and MP or MLA in congress ticket

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RE:Do not politicise
by asad aslam on May 29, 2007 11:09 AM  Permalink
Incounters may be necessary to counter terrorism. But u r not ready to see whole picture. Here is the case of taking political milage. They got a crminal, labeled him a terrorist and killed. That is problem. Killing terrorist no prble. Killing criminal no problem. But use it for political milage is a great problem. Many criminal die no big issue there are criminals in all community. But gujrat goverment is labelling a criminal a terrorist that was going to kill modi. Thus he is using this to gain sympathy and spread heatred against muslims.

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RE:RE:Do not politicise
by ashish gaur on May 29, 2007 10:57 AM  Permalink
right said , see afzal's case , they r ready to set him free ......all congress man must be killed in fake encounter, traitors..

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