let me ask my hindus brother why you people are not coming out against American interest in Arab world in the name of terrorist they are destroying here but the real interest is control oil
Why no hindus brother raise the shorabuddinn case where it is was clearly fake encounter how many hindus brother having guts to accept these naked truth.
do u think for few fundamentalist the whole muslim is to blamed, then what about all those hindus who killed 10,000 muslim in Gujrat
in dera in Punjab case Muslim were un unnecessary drag in to the issue
Muslims never adamance fundamentalism, they are simple practicing there religion are not the hidus practicing there own religion
RE:ask ur Conscience
by MonteeJain on May 30, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
When BJP was in Centre...your dear Parveen Jhagadia was distributing Trishules everywhere and spearding hate.... now Congress is in Centre.... in which cave he is hiding....??????? DAR GAYA NA!!!!
RE:Call for free
by Roshan on May 30, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
Mr. Sameer Bhagwat, Lets be sensible enough to stop posting such ads on a discussion forum which has a specific topic in place. Please absolve yourself from posting such ads for sake of some paisas.
You can also call this way of advtg as " Indirect Begging"
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by Roshan on May 30, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
The day Modi or Advani becomes the PM of this country. The word "Peace" will vanish from the dictionary.
Try to grow up folks. These politicians are dividing this country in the name of religion. You are a literate & you should know what is right & what is wrong. Hindutva or Islam will not give you food or money to run your family. At the end of the day a peaceful supper with your family is what is required to the citizens of this country. Lets not get dragged into politics. The only way to teach these politicians a lesson is not to get dragged to their illicit plans in the name of religion. Have you ever heard a politician being injured or his family injured during communal riots. No they are safe. its only us the common people who face the brunt. Grow up guys. For the sake of peace & well being forget these maulas, modis, advani's, RSS etc., We are all one.
RE:RE:thanks javed and shabana
by Red Hot Chilli Peppers on May 30, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
YOu misunderstand Mr.Roshan, BJP ruled for 7 years. Did they construct Ram MAndir? Did they enforce common civil code? Did they take away special status for Kashmir? Did they divide society on caste or like basis? Did they try religion based recruitment in Army? Did they abolish Haj subsidy? All they did was
Big highways. Telecom revolution IT revolution Cooking gas scarcity removed Peace with PAkistan
so on and so forth
It was much better than any so-called secular party.
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by SAM KIM on May 30, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
lsten Akram, there are historical reasons' for BJP opposing muslims. But now they have defenetly changed. How long u keep harping on Gujarat?? if u keep harping the loosers are u muslims, and gainers are Pseudo secularist parties as u form a vote bank kepp casting them. Let us hope one day u guys will enlighten
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by SAM KIM on May 30, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
As long as u people don't come out HATE BJP mentality, u will never come up in life. Your saviour's congress and other parties will u people like toilet papaer and through u after every election.
Ofcourse BJP walah's did oppose muslim's for historical reason, but post BABRI episode they did realyzed that these king of muslim oppression will only destabilize india and they changed thier idoelogy and they r ok for peace. But u guys are not ready na!. u want to oppse tooth and nail. The kind of incidents u mentioned will keep happening as there is direct control on cadres of the party.
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by Akram on May 30, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
dont worry about our progress.if congress is doing this with muslims then BJP is doing this with hindus.
we know very well about BJP's and its mentor organization ideology. it is like TALIBAN telling we have changed our ideology after the destruction of Bumiyan buddha statues.
will you trust taliban with the changed colour never na. it is the same for us with BJP.
intially after BJP claimed power we were really happy that our fear is not turned to reality. But the Gujarat pogron has forever changed our mindset completely, Gujarat was the real BJP face, which they want spread throughout the country.
how much hatred could have spread among the people who went on rampage killing,burning,raping and brutal behaviour with preganent women. You then may come with Kashmir and 1500 AD happening, you always try justify things. NOTE HISTORY ALWAYS REPEAT.
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by Red Hot Chilli Peppers on May 30, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
YOu misunderstand Mr.Roshan, BJP ruled for 7 years. Did they construct Ram MAndir? Did they enforce common civil code? Did they take away special status for Kashmir? Did they divide society on caste or like basis? Did they try religion based recruitment in Army? Did they abolish Haj subsidy? All they did was
Big highways. Telecom revolution IT revolution Cooking gas scarcity removed Peace with PAkistan
so on and so forth
It was much better than any so-called secular party.
RE:RE:thanks javed and shabana
by SAM KIM on May 30, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
foget man these musalman's will never understand truth and the apease. How long they will live on the freebies thrown at them by pseudo's? one fine day they will realyze that nation development for thier own benifit.
As long as they get carried away with crocadile tera's of Pseuodo secularists and commie media, they will rot in getto's only by enjoying freebies thrown at them.
RE:RE:RE:thanks javed and shabana
by MonteeJain on May 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Mr. Kim, when BJP was in Centre...your dear Parveen Jhagadia was distributing Trishules everywhere and spearding hate.... and now Congress is in Centre.... in which cave he is hiding....??????? DAR GAYA NA!!!!
RE:thanks javed and shabana
by True indian on May 30, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
to keep congress away you dont need trishuls.only stones are required. No one use a trishul to keep away dogs
1. Javed aktar 2.Shabana asmi 3.Testa 4.Hussain 5.Sayed kirmani
They cry only when a terrorist is dead or dealt with. They have no issue when hindu' or innocents are killed. Only the human rights are violated when terrorists are handled. From where they get the money to do all these propaganda? and run the case in court? have an enquiry ever one will know who's behind them.
targetting narendra modi in name of being anti-muslim - mr.akhtar, first tell the maulvis and the muslim countries to preach secularism and equality for all religions. see wats happening in malaysia to hindus..a wife cant get his husband burried in hindu rituals!!!
RE:tell javed akhtar to teach secularism in muslim countries first
by Akram on May 30, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
you have no right to talk about malaysia. There was no riots in malaysia and noone killed for being a minority in that country.
There are three hindu tamil people in 40 richest malaysians and even holding the second place. if the country is dicriminatory howcome this happens. Also the list is dominated by chinese.
if you are looking into that particular case, there was another case where the childrens born to a muslim mother and hindu were handed over to hindu father by court order.
what about the Gujju jewellers dominating the gold town of Dubai.
RE:tell javed akhtar to teach secularism in muslim countries first
by True indian on May 30, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Well Akram, do you know about a country Indonesia? the largest muslim state in the world? You know what is their antional festival...Ramleela..how many of you here in india will take it and celebrate? We have ministers here who refused to light a lamp in inaugural ceremonies saying it is unislamic.....so understand to respect the history and traditions/culture irrespectiv of the religion just like the indonesians!!!That is what is lacking in these illeterate moulvis
RE:RE:tell javed akhtar to teach secularism in muslim countries first
by Akram on May 30, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
for your kind information a muslim minister in TN cabinet has participated in religious function held at Punnainallur mariamman temple near Thanjavur much to criticism of maulvis.
muslims in india should strike a balance between our indian culture anc islamic values. Touching the feet of other humanbeing is unislamic, there was a muslim minister from a respectable family of Vellore district fell at the feet of ex-cm tamilnadu,this unislamic act should be avoided rather lighting a lamp is certainly not unislamic.
indian muslims have not understood fully either their islamic or rich indian culture.
I have a lot of respect for Javed Akhtar and Shabana as intellectuals. However the Human rights Activists should give a thought to victims of terrorism and the whole cause of terrorism. Just by filing PIL against fake encounters they may be encouraging terrorism. The Human Right Activists should give a thought to common citizens who become targets of terrorists, who probably are ordinary Muslims,Sikhs,Christian apart from Hindus majority of them have nothing against any community or religion. If a person has gone to Pakistan for training to cause havoc in our country, then he is a traitor and carrying war against the Nation. In war there are no Human rights. Defence services and paramilitory forces have a tough job of handling unseen/unknown and potentially dangerous person. I want to ask these HR activists what will be there reaction if their near and dear one is killed by a terrorist attack. Will they still be so active. Ask the relatives of people who lost there near and dear ones or whole families were wiped out. Javed Sahib and Smt Shabana my request is PLEASE FIGHT AGAINST THE CAUSES OF TERRORISM AND NOT AGAINST LAW AND ORDER MACHINARY. We ordinary citizens of this nation want to concentrate of our daily chores and anybody who tries sabotage our lively hood and RIGHT TO LIVE PEACEFULLY DOES NOT GET OUR SYMPATHY. Vijay Gupta
