Sub: Wither Kerala today- the most intellectual State? Thanks to TVR Shenoy, the renowned journalist - fully committed to NATION and always with a fair focus on Indian political South India. But he has missed one point in his narration that EMS Namboodripad, a doyen of the COMMUNISIM of India was toppled by a 'budding' politician in her 1st assignment in 1959, in dismissing the world's first democratically elected Government. Unfortunately, the new 'AVTAR' of Communist movements in India are behind those very 'dynastic rulers' today. As for KELTRON, being a witness in 1990s as a Telecom pioneer- in a way %u2013 this author can say that the regimes did not support the innovative ideas of the company, since it was based in Kerala during Left%u2019s regimes. Let us wish all the best to Kerala, now that CPM is %u2018virtually ruling at the centre%u2019. No wonder that CPM Supremo Prakash Karat gave an exemplary dressing down to the Chief Minister and also his minister on 26th May 2007. Vinod Tuli
RE:Chief Minister with a Difference?
by Venkat on Jun 01, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
hey communists r chameleons THEY CHANGE COLOR OFTEN, DID U KNOW THE NAMBOODERIPAD N MARXISTS STOOGES PRAISED N SUPPORTED CHINA WHEN CHINA INVADED INDIA IN 1962, DO U KNOW THEY WERE SECERTLY SUPPORTING BRITISHERS BECOZ RUSSIA WAS IN THE ALLIANCE IN WW-2, THEY WANTED NETAJI SUBASH TO BE KILLED BECOZ NETAJI WAS A FRIEND OF JAPAN N GERMANY N HENCE AGAINST CHINA N RUSSIA, THE YECHURYS N SURJEETS, RAJAS OF CPIM N CPI, MAO, SFI,DYFI, SUCI, ML ARE ALL ANIMALS OF THE SAME COLOR, BEWARE OF THEM THEY WILL SELL INDIA TO CHINA TOMORROW N BE HAPPY HOISTING THE LAL JHANDA ON REDFORT INSTEAD OF TRICOLOR, THE COMMUNISTS DONOT ACCEPT INDIA AS ONE THEY FEEL IT IS BUNCH OF 25 NATIONS THEY WILL ALLOW JKLF TO HAVE KASHMIR, THEY ALLOW ALL NE STATES TO HAVE FREEDOM N BAN THE INDIAN ARMY AS IT WILL BE A HEADACHE TO THEIR FRIEND CHINA. OH INDIANS P[LZ REALIZE WEST BENGAL N KERALA THE LAND OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS N GREAT SAINTS HAS GONE TO DOGS BECOZ OF THESE MARXISTS, ARISE AWAKE STOP NOT TILL THE COMMUNISTS R THROWN OUT OF THIS COUNTRY, VANDEMATHARAM
RE:Chief Minister with a Difference?
by ramankutty on Jun 02, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
COMMUNISTS ARE THE REAL HUMANBEINGS. RSS/VHP PEOPLE ARE THE BLOOD THIRSTY DEMONS OF INDIA.THESE DEMONS SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM OUR NATION JAI INDIA.LONG LIVE INDIA.MERA BHARAT MAHAN.
1. Kerala is highly literate ... yes, with most of them having minimum qualification to cross that line of literacy standards. There are more SSC%u2019s than IT graduates.
2. Cocoanut and other crops they grow there consume maximum water and the land area is less to hold water in its belly.
Atchutanandan ji has to keep in mind that more construction activity, lower water table as most of the water is pumped out for construction industry... As time goes by and the forests dwindle replaced by concrete jungles, we have to start processing seawater or import water, which will not be possible for cost constraints. Arabian Desert countries are manufacturing water from seawater through purification plants. It will have to be not only here but also elsewhere in India.
Kerala%u2019s Industry has to purge itself from Trade unionism until every one feels that he should work hard and build a better Keralam.
These are a few of my observation after a tour of 3 weeks there. However, all Keralites returning and settling will be doubtful, as paucity of land for inhabitation against the population, will not work out. Only the older ones return and the young explore the world.
It seems like this board has been hijacked by a rabid bunch of fundies. All u losers, instead of crying hoarse about other religions and communities, go and do some good for ur own community for a change. Oh,i forget, u guys equate attacking other communities as doing good to ur community. The only saving grace is that these fascist morons are very few in Kerala as compared to some other northern states.
RE:RE:RE:Please leave us alone to live in Peace!
by Venkat Krishnan on May 29, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Hindus are worset sufferers in our own land. Minorities are slowly becoming majorities and all politicians favour them for their votes. Their growth is enormous in recent times. All intelletual Hindus have migrated to foreign countries leaving their mother land & their ancesstral homes to minority communities.Hindu temple funds are looted by political parties with no or little protest whereas places of worship of minorities are spared for fear of loosing vote bank.It is becoming increasingly difficult for hindus to live in dignity & to maintain their places of worship free from the onslaught of politicians.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Please leave us alone to live in Peace!
by ramankutty on May 31, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
mr.venkat krishnan,this is not the place to post your stupid messages and replies,here we are discussing about the chief minister of kerala.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Please leave us alone to live in Peace!
by anil chandavarker on May 29, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
Atleast now I read true messages sent by CHOLA KING AND VENKAT KRISHNAN. Both of you are 100% right. Even an foreighner has to tell us who are real Dalits in India. Some decades ago I read an article ( letter to the editor ), he had boldly written that Muslims (so called minoriotes ) will be majorities and they rule our INDIA (ie. FORGOTTEN BHARAT) That person must be very happy to see the current situation enjoying his days in this Earth or in Jannath. Thanks to our all political parties for hiding truth and pocketing votes from poor people by bribing them to keep them in power. Why should party bosses/workers worry about the ground realities in India? All have minted money to sustain their 3 or 4 generations. But they have forgotten that their 2nd to 4th generation will pay the price of their SINE. Why should they bother, they are SEVAKS of AAM ADMI of India. GOD SAVE INDIA-BHARAT.
RE:Xian deception
by on May 24, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
What the hell are you talking about nut.Iam a Christian in Australia and am As proud of Diwali as Iam of Christmas , and I have conducted more diwali festivals than any body else and all proceeds going to the poor of India and the proceeds dont discriminate between Hindu Muslim ,Sikh or Christian. and as christian from India Iam as proud of our duiverse culture than any other thing in our lifes , I have many hindu friends coming to our church as well most christians will go to Hindu temples & Gurduwaras as regularly , the indian Churches are Indian First than anything else.We are the great country , not because hinduisam is better or christianity is better because we live in a country with second largest muslim population, a huge christian population , smart & tolerant hindus , courageous sikhs , the smart marwaris and million diffrent qualities which can just be felt as a feeling ,if you can get this into your rat brain you will understand that my brothers wife is hindu and my sister is married to a hindu , and as per indian custom they follow their husbands religion as well as not losing their religion they were brought up in.any way my father or uncle both Christians can recite bhagwat geeta or most religius texts as good as the best learned pundits. I will seriosly advise you to get out of your nutshell travel india a bit and see what our country is about and where we sould place our country in the scheme of the world . AJAY
RE:Xian deception
by Archace on May 24, 2007 08:14 AM Permalink
You will not save Hinduism by cutting Xians. You will save Hinduism by addressing the wrongs in it. How about the caste system. Change the scourge of caste and you will take away the biggest single reason why Hindus convert. First solve problems in your own backyard before looking at neighbours'. Otherwise people will keep calling you a "nut" and you will keep responding to them like only a "nut" can.
RE:RE:Xian deception
by B Bag on May 30, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
Mr. Archace, you talk about this, but have you ever understand the logic behind the cruel killing of the Australian missionery MR. Grham Stein in Orissa few years ago!!! Though I don't support and strongly condemn such killing, particularly two of the innocent lifes of the two kids who were yet to see the world, but the incidence took place having a root to converting people to christianity (this is the common anger that still exists within the native of Anandapur)!!!!See, problem is everywhere, but you cannot exploit them and preach people to go for religion conversion..
RE:RE:Xian deception
by shanthipriya on May 30, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
What about christian conversions in societies not having caste system. Is christian society devoid of exploitation? Whatever you say hindu social system is still strong and the longest. It can come out with solutions to conversion problems. Conversions and caste differences are a temporary problems that Hindus will overcome. Santhipriya
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by CG NAIR on Jun 01, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
Mr. Raman Kutty, what the bloody hell you think of yourself? Do you think you are the only wise person and all others are foolish? It is high that you stopped posting utter nonsense on the message boards and start behaving yourself. As a converted christian, if you are getting any favours from the church, lick it, but do not ridicule others.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Xian deception
by ramankutty on Jun 02, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
What you think about me,if you think i am the only wise person,then i have nothing to do with it.why are you telling conversion,christian,lick it etc. Are you gone mad?pour some cold water on your head and have a good sleep dear. And tomorrow morning dont waste time,just go and consult a good doctor who treats mental patients.I know you hate me but I love you brother.
You seems to have keyhole view to the world. There are rich and poor, high class and oppressed everywhere in this world. Do you think it is possible to convert people in countries like Pakistan or Saudi? Dont you think there are poor and oppressed people there? It only because of the fact that the Hindus and the Hindu rulers in the past were lenient and tolerant to other people and religions lead to all these miseries in the past. Today's Hindus are more aware and is less tolerant because of obvious reasons. There is no question of cleaning up anywhere. There might be wrong doings in Hindu society like any other religion including Xians. But that cant be considered as a soft target for conversions. If the Xians are doing it for the love, them provide all the food and clothings without conversions. Xians are also doing wrong by giving materialistic benefits for conversion. Who'll clean that up? Yes, people were considering the Hindus as "nut" for their remarkable tolerance. You wont see that lasting for long.
Is that caste discrimination exists in christianity as well? Any SC/ST converted into christianity is not treated at par with Roman Catholics and Syrin Catholics. You change their name to Antony or Jocob, but will call him like Pulayan Jacob or Pulayan Antony!! So much so thbe euqality in christianity.
Commenting on Ajay's letter from Australia, I would like to say that if he is an Indian Christian, he should realise the fact that once upon a time his forefathers were Hindus. He may have grown up in such atmosphere that he learned tolerance. But the case of majority of christians is not like that. They are systematically trying to wipe out Hindus from India by coverting maximum number of people into christianity. We all know that they have full support of the west by all means, financially and otherwise. One of the US main agenda is to evangilise India in this century. They are pumping the required amount for this purpose.
RE:Xian deception
by Chola King on May 24, 2007 11:56 PM Permalink
The converted Dalit Christians have not seen the "light" except for the small amount received while converting. Read the deatails:
EPW carries an interesting article-cum-report on the plight of Dalit Christians. It appears to be well-researched and replete with historical, contemporary, and statistical data. Prakash Louis, the author, argues that Dalit Christians have been betrayed on all counts and from everybody including the Church.
I argue that his premise is flawed for a most fundamental reason: you cannot be a Dalit and a Christian at the same time. In the larger scheme of things, I also argue how this phenomenon threatens the India of a unified India. The term Dalit--Harijan if you will--is exclusively Hindu. If you call yourself a Dalit, you are Hindu. One rallying point of Evangelists against Hinduism in their conversion melas is the promise of equal social treatment. But as this report proves, the promise is never honoured.
Many studies have revealed that conversion to Christianity does not change the social condition of the dalits. Caste discrimination within the Indian Christian community is more than 100 years old according to this report, and persists.
Historical data abound with caste segregation and discrimination within the church right from its inception. The cathedral at Tiruchirappalli, built between 1839 and 1841 was provided with the customary caste bar. In some places, the dalits had their own churches, in other places they attended the se
