Intolerence is not good for any religion. One has to be much more tolerent when matter is related with other religion.
I have seen a sikh among gathering of around 400 intellectuals in punjab who compared another sikh with granth sahib. Neither the person named nor hundred of sikhs present objected. Why? I really surprise.
Master Tara Singh, the acknowledged leader of the Sikhs since at least the eve of Partition, was a cofounder of the Vishva Hindu Parishad in 1964.
The strongest evidence for Hindu-Sikh unity is certainly the fact that no matter how hard the Khalistani separatists of the 1980s tried, they could not get Hindu-Sikh riots going. Though Hindus became wary of Sikhs, they never responded to the Khalistanis selective massacres of Hindus with attacks on Sikhs, nor did ordinary Sikhs ever start the kind of attacks on Hindus commonly witnessed as the opening scene of Hindu-Muslim riots. The Khalistani episode was a confrontation between Sikh separatists and the police and army of the secular Indian state, not one between Sikhs and Hindus. The surprising fact is that there were no communal riots in Punjab even in the worst days of terrorism .82
The massacre of Sikhs by activists of the secularist Congress Party in Delhi after Indira Gandhi s murder by her Sikh bodyguards in 1984 was not a Hindu-Sikh riot, in spite of secularist efforts to rationalize it as one. Even Khushwant Singh admitted that RSS and BJP activists had saved many Sikhs while Congress secularists were killing them: It was the Congress leaders who instigated mobs in 1984 and got more than 3000 people killed. I must give due credit to RSS and the BJP for showing courage and protecting helpless Sikhs during those difficult days. No less a person than Atal Bihari Vajpayee himself intervened at a couple of places to help poor taxi drivers.
Have you gone through whole sacha sauda episode. Ram rahim didn't only dressed like Guru Gobind Singh Ji but he imitated Guru Gobind singh. His Seven followers prepared his jam-e-Insaan because Panj Pyaras prepare amrit in Sikh Dharam He drink that jaam himself and then all his followers did becoz Guru Gobind Singh jij did that(13-April-1699).He gave instruction to his follow to donate 15% of their income to dera because Guru Gobind Singh Ji said give 10% to Gurudwaras.
We strongly believe that nobody can equalize our Gurus. Then how can a Joker like ram Rahim dress like Guru Gobind Singh Ji.
NOT ONLY A DRESS ISSUE, IMITAION WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AT ANY COST.
Ram rahim 's doing all this in the name of Humaninty.First he should know what exaclty humanism is ?
FIRST RAM RAHIM SHOULD HIMSELF BECOMES GUD HUMA BEING THEN HE SHOULD GIVE MESSAGES.
RE:For Abh Kau
by Abh Kau on May 22, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
Why don't you realize that he(dera chief) can never be one millionth of what guru was to his follower? Laugh at him and move on.
RE:For Abh Kau
by Aalsi on May 22, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
You remember those incidents.What about Kashmir brother??????What about 1980s when thousands of Hindus were killed in Punjab systematically by the terrorists supported by Akalis?????Not only you killed Hindus but you drove many of them away. Hindus have suffered more at hands of other religion and in huge numbers because of the other religions never believed in peaceful coexistence.
Do you want to go in cause and effects?Don't go short sighted. I can give you millions of examples. The unfortunate present trend of Hindu militancy is because of all that. The governments failed to recognize that.... You just want to see your point......... And if i choose to see my point only then there will be clash of opinion and interest. I do not represent the thinking of 850 million Hindus in this country and niether do you represent the thinking of 19.2 million sikhs in this country. Hinduism never believed in dominating others and that is why we have other religion existing in this country,whether you would like to believe or not. YOU ARE MAKING STATEMENTS LIKE THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AND THAT WON'T BE TOLERATED. I am not. Not only you are sick but have double standards,as well.
RE:For Abh Kau
by Aalsi on May 22, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
Well in 1980s there was the call for Khalistan because of the so called atrocities of the Indian government.Many Hindu families were systematically and targetted and killed the Sikh militants.The followers of the Gurus became the attackers.They killed the unarmed and the helpless.Why were the Guru Gobind Singh ji's command not followed then?????The Akalis were at the fore front of leading such attacks on the minorities in Punjab I wiah that this does not result in the same.Because this time the religious intolerance is at its peak. The love for your religion should not translate into hate for other religion.
A good move to pacify! In India,the philosophy is peaceful coexistence! Insulting other faiths is not congenial for peaceful living!Dera move was about to disturb the peace ! People of good senses believe that Dera chief will come down from his stance! We hope there is no undercurrect from any quarters!
I would like to correct you that Nirankaris and so called sacha sauda followers are not part of Sikhism and Akal takht is not creating any terror. Akal takht is a supremre religious seat of sikhs and all five high priets knows their duty wery well.
You have written that Akal takht should be leniant.If any body insults your father and then say regret.That regret will be be acceptable to you ?
People like you are potraying bad image of Akal Takht sahib and creating terror.
RE:For Ravi Shankar
by Abh Kau on May 22, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
If anyone dresses up like my father or buys a suit like my father.I will not consider it as an insult to my father.I will be surprised but not insulted.I will not run on the street brandishing a sword.
RE:RE:For Ravi Shankar
by Abh Kau on May 22, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
If anyone dresses up like my father or buys a suit like my father.I will not consider it as an insult to my father.I will be surprised but not insulted.I will not run on the street brandishing a sword.
during the periods of communal disharmony the religious leaders should come together and solve the matter. Do not allow these dirty politicians to meddle in to this.Guru Govindji was a realised yogi, who tried to save hindus from babar/aurangzeb and arab invaders.Every body should be thankful to him.For the information of all Indians i am pasting that Aryan invasion theory a myth created by britishers is proved to be wrong: Myths Dispelled: Historical Hoax The myth of the aryan invasion cracked wide open in 1995. The writings in the Vedas and the anthropological evidence show the Vedic Aryans were the indigenous Indians, the same multi-racial society that developed the Harappan and Mahenjadaro cultures. It is a culture at least 5,000 years old. The "Aryan/Dravidian" split is a baseless historian's contrivance. The historic new book, Cradle of Civilization, jointly authored by George Feuerstein, David Frawley and Subash Kak, just released at the end of this year, definitively thrashes the old idea that the Vedas were written by invading nomads from central Asia. A few mainstream American text books are finally admitting the invasion theory may be wrong. Dear indiand irrespective of whatever religions we follow today we are one and should look after each other.Please stay united and help the govt to drive away anti social and terrorist from this land
RE:A piece of information for all Indians - aryan invasion theory
by Abh Kau on May 22, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
This is one of the theory of arayan presence in the Indian subcontinent.But no one has proved it to be right or wrong,so it is still a theory and not a fact
RE:A piece of information for all Indians - aryan invasion theory
by Abh Kau on May 22, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
The sikhs did not take arms during the period of Babur.Babur ruled from 1483-1530.Guru Nanak lived from 1469-1538.His followers never took up arms agains babur. If you are sikh,i can understand your feelings but atleast get the facts right?
Swami Agnibesh? He is a leader of any political party? Which party? What he wants? So far I know a monk/saint means he is not interested in politics etc but this monk is a rare monk.Again I wld like to know what he wants?
hi my friends, i support the thought of Akalis and their feelings against congress.
but can i being supporter of Akali has got right to oust Nirankaris and now the Deras and their Chief since they support to Congress.
Though i see some foul play from Congress side even then we do not get right to behave like this.
in each religion there are several sects in islam it is shia-sunni, in christianity it is protestants and catholics,in hindus there are several Gods but it does not mean to oust the other.
i appreciate the unity of Sikhi and Akal Takhat shold work for the unity of Sikhi rather than to create terror in other minds.
the negotiations are going on Dera Chief has shown leniancy Akal Takhat should also be leniant for the larger interest of Sikhi.
